Worth buying Oblivion?

[Korten12]

woah I remember when I asked a similar question and 100% of people said buy it and in this thread most people say dont.

 

[JC175]

I have never really understood the tribalistic defense of this game (and indeed other games). Is it an attempt to deal with buyers remorse?

Oblivion is not a perfect game. But using such bitchy little trite observations to justify why it is of all things "one of the poorest RPG's in existence" is extreme arrogance. I'm not saying you have to like the game, that's your perogative and I honestly don't care if you love it or hate it. But petty exaggeration? Another issue.

No, you are saying that someone else can't have the opinion that Oblivion is the poorest RPG in existence and that anyone who possibly has that opinion is making "bitchy little trite observations". If someone elses opinion of a video game bothers you so much that you have to resort to calling someone "bitchy", or "petty", or "arrogant" then I humbly suggest that deep down you realize that the petty arrogant ***** has a point, or else you wouldn't be so perturbed by their words.

People generally only get defensive when a vunerability is exposed.

My friend, I do not get defensive, rather I get frustrated by ignorance.

One thing I'd like to preface this by saying is that generally, as much as I tend to disagree with some people, I can always understand their point of view, while not necessarily agreeing with it. Here's a reason why people tribalistically defend the game - maybe, just maybe, because they enjoyed it?

Your points are not without some merit, I already discussed that above. But like I've said, they're such unimportant and petty problems that they're hardly worth a mention. The video you linked to for one, is not a problem with the voice acting. It's a problem with the audio editing, which I can understand, seeing as the game contains many thousands of lines of dialog. Again, I do not think the game is perfect, and in comparision to Morrowind, I think both games have their own unique flaws and strengths.

If your opinion is truly that Oblivion ranks with the most horrible games ever made, then I think you live in a very sheltered naive little world. Yes, I am saying that one cannot have the point of view that Oblivion is one of the poorest games in existence, because that is simply not true. Disliking a game does not make it so, no matter how much you try to justify it. At its worst, Oblivion is still an above-average video game. I am not preaching that it is the best game in the history of mankind, because that is not the case, and so should you not preach the opposite. Good day to you sir.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

I loved Oblivion. People who say it sucked are just being too picky.

 

[wkrepelin]

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I don't know why so many people knock oblivion. Maybe I don't understand because I only played just a little Morrowind.

I looooooooved Oblivion. I spent, like, 300+ hours with that game. It is buggy but so is Fallout 3 they're both so ambitious that I forgive it. There are limited voice actors but I thought it was epic. Maybe it's because it was one of the first current gen games I played or that I'd never seen graphics that good before but I loved it, so did my girlfriend and all of my friends who played it. I have 27 years of gaming experience and I'd say as long as you're okay with it being a bit dated at this point you should jump right in.

It's one of my favorite games of all time and if it weren't 300+ hours of content I'd play it again.

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

Personally, I put 100+ hours into the game before I'd ever heard of Morrowind or listened to people ***** about how it compares to something else. I enjoyed the game for what it was, and I enjoyed it quite a bit.

By now, you should be able to pick it up for, what, $20? More than worth the price for a game I personally loved. Plus, it goes splendidly with a bit of sweet leaf.

 

[Jacklin]

I'll GIVE you my edition of Oblivion, it has two expansions, cause I was an idiot and bought the deluxe edition of the game. I live in Brampton, Ontario, Canada (a 30 minute drive from Toronto).
If you live near me I'll ship it to you for free.
It was a big waste of money, but you have to play it to really understand why, or if may (by some random occurance) love it and want 3 beautiful blond children with it.
Anyways, get back to me, I don't want it any more because I fucking hated it.

 

[Jsnoopy]

I really dislike it, from the ass load of frequent (and long) load times, to the way the monsters level up with you.

 

[xAnarchysAngelx]

It has plenty of good things but a few drawbacks, and if your getting the PC version, you can download mods to fix any problems and make the game alot better. So I would say; Buy It.

 

[brodie21]

dude, just get it, it is a good game. you could probably get it for around ten bucks. i got it in 06 and i still play it occasionally

 

[Trebort]

Oblivion = Awesome. Buy it.

 

[_Cake_]

It's pretty good especially if you the medieval setting. I would also give Fallout 3 a look if you haven't played it already. The are both very open and you can sorta do as you please. Personally I enjoy Fallout 3 better(even as a rpg).

 

[Chicaine]

It'll be dirt cheap by now, worth it even if morrowind is better (which i've never played)

 

[Fappy]

Hahahahahahaha No. Oblivion is terrible. Morrowind.

Yeah, Morrowind for sure.

 

[shale1157]

I got oblivion GOTY edition and it bored the crap out of me.

 

[shale1157]

even with mods

 

[Omnific One]

I had fun, and spent many hours wasting away on it, so I would have to say yes.
As long as you get the expansion pack with it, with the ever lovable prince of madness.
Its fallout 3 (made by the same guys, and I believe the same engine), but fantasy, bigger, and more control over your stats.
Voice acting is utter shit though. Even Patric Stewert was awful.

So, if that appeals to you, and you don't mind crappy voice acting, give it a go.

Just a random note: I think Fallout uses Gamebryo 2, with Oblivion using 1. That's why I'm expecting great things from TES:V.

 

[Mister Awesome]

oblivion is a great game! especially if you get it for the computer where you can download mods that add lots more gameplay

 

[EinTheCorgi]

oblivion is on my top ten games that kick ass list its tied with mass effect so yes buy it!

 

[Axolotl]

You are so "monumentally" wrong that it hurts.

1. "Horrendously buggy"? name at least 1 game-breaking bug. I can name a couple of major bugs from TES3: All of your faction ranks get wiped if you join the Temple after finishing the main quest and the reach of spears does not work as people with stump hands can reach you 3 meters away.

Can't speak for everyone but for me but 1: Crashed on install, repeatedly, requireing me to spend several hours uninstalling and reinstalling until it worked. And even then I had to patch it instantly. 2: Fell through the floor 4 times, 3 of which the game was ggod enough to teleport me back to solid groud but the fourth time I just stayed hovering in greyspace. 3. Numerous times the game would simply stop. 4. Bluescreened on me at least 10 times probably more. No real ryme or reason when but it happened alot.

And that's not counting all the various minor bugs and issues such as the two face bug or items a graphics not working properly.

2. The A.I in Oblivion is god-like compared to Morrowind, NPC's in TES3 constantly cluster together in the middle of the fucking doorway blocking your path and couple that with messed collision detection which prevents someone who can jump up to 2 meters in the air from jumping over a 20-centimeter high fence. Also, the NPC-escort missions are flawed in that the NPC will not choose his own path but walk in your footsteps (causing them to fall down cliffs or getting stuck in a bush).

Are you joking? You're seriously defending Oblivions AI?
http://videosift.com/video/Oblivions-Radiant-AI-not-as-great-as-they-said-it-would-be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRWY6TOeR1Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-zk0eodQHI&feature=related

And that's just from a 5 minute google search. The AI is just bad.

3. Want to know something funny? Morrowind used less voice actors and you could not look at them without triggering their generic response.

But the dialog wasn't voice acted. In Oblivion the lack of voice actors (and their lack of skill) is very obvious especially when an NPC talks o somebody of the same race and gender. Or when people switch accents in the middle of a conversation.

4. "Leveling system is broken", cool story bro. How about backing up your argument next time?. The leveling system was designed so that there would always be a challenge, every enemy in Oblivion had base stats, meaning that it will always take more to defeat an ogre than a rat.

Well for a start the way the system works mean the best thing you can do is to chose primary skills for your class as skills you never use. Secondly it means if you have any sort of non-combat skill as one that determines your level you have to avoid using it or become unable to actually fight the enemies the game throws at you. Thridly several skill in the game are simply made irrelavent by certain spells or items. Sneak is a meaningless skill to a character who can cast invisibility, Speechcraft is worse than a charm spell and there's an easy to get item that makes the security skill pointless.

5. Environments are bland and empty? instead of having a copy-pasted frankenstein landscape they decided on a visually pleasing and seamless environment consisting of savannah-like plains, icy-mountains, swamps and pine-forests.

You mean generic green fields, grey blobs with white on them, generic green fields with wter and generic green fields with trees. Yeah Morrowind was usgly but it was alien. Especially with the Dwemer and Daedric ruins.

6. Psychic Guards? try the Guard Overhaul mod. Also, no NPC in morrowind went to sleep.

Vigilant modders does not excuse bad design.

7. The Main Quest does not get bogged down by that drawn-out shit filler where you have to walk everywhere telling them that you are the "nerevarine".

AND? It's still a bland and generic story. And you aren't the main character.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

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I have never really understood the tribalistic defense of this game (and indeed other games). Is it an attempt to deal with buyers remorse?

Oblivion is not a perfect game. But using such bitchy little trite observations to justify why it is of all things "one of the poorest RPG's in existence" is extreme arrogance. I'm not saying you have to like the game, that's your perogative and I honestly don't care if you love it or hate it. But petty exaggeration? Another issue.

No, you are saying that someone else can't have the opinion that Oblivion is the poorest RPG in existence and that anyone who possibly has that opinion is making "bitchy little trite observations". If someone elses opinion of a video game bothers you so much that you have to resort to calling someone "bitchy", or "petty", or "arrogant" then I humbly suggest that deep down you realize that the petty arrogant ***** has a point, or else you wouldn't be so perturbed by their words.

People generally only get defensive when a vunerability is exposed.

My friend, I do not get defensive, rather I get frustrated by ignorance.

Ohhh personal tastes in video games makes one "ignorant" now as well as "bitchy", "petty", and "arrogant".

One thing I'd like to preface this by saying is that generally, as much as I tend to disagree with some people, I can always understand their point of view, while not necessarily agreeing with it. Here's a reason why people tribalistically defend the game - maybe, just maybe, because they enjoyed it?

Naah. I bet you enjoy ice cream. Or maybe you don't. When someone else says "eewww I can't stand that shit!" or "I love it!" do you call them an ignorant *****? Something else makes you behave like this, and it has nothing to do with enjoying the game.

If your opinion is truly that Oblivion ranks with the most horrible games ever made, then I think you live in a very sheltered naive little world.

So I am an ignorant, arrogant, naive, petty ***** living in a "sheltered world" now for not liking Oblivion? Are you serious?! "Sheltered world"? It's a damn video game for the love of God!

Yes, I am saying that one cannot have the point of view that Oblivion is one of the poorest games in existence, because that is simply not true.

Ohhh we have an arbitrary "truth" here. Tested the game in a lab against others did you? Subjective opinions on video games aren't allowed if they are on games you like?

Disliking a game does not make it so, no matter how much you try to justify it. At its worst, Oblivion is still an above-average video game. I am not preaching that it is the best game in the history of mankind, because that is not the case, and so should you not preach the opposite. Good day to you sir.

You are preaching though, and throwing a tantrum as well. Over a video game.