Worth dying for.
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I am pretty much willing to die for anything. In actuality it just gives me an excuse to die. Living for something is an entirely different matter.
Although this is a good choice if it were feasible(feasible to do or feasible to choose what I die for).Black Sulphur said:
Actually, that all depends on how you define immortality and/or living. Achilles arguably gave his life for immortality.Phlakes said:
depends on the situation, but more then likely for a family member (unless they are old as fuck, sorry grandma and grandpa..you are awesome as fuck but logic states you will be alive for maybe 10 years...in which you will sit around and be a liability to us all, so no can do) and my partner (as soon as i find one) and possibly for justice, if i see someone who is truly being taken advantage of or beaten, and if i think i can make a difference or speak up for the group, then ill take that stand, sure.
oh and if we are invaded, toss me a mother fucking gun, i will take as many bitches down to hell with me as i can to protect my family and friends
oh and if we are invaded, toss me a mother fucking gun, i will take as many bitches down to hell with me as i can to protect my family and friends
awww thats swee-ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.Lolth17 said:
lol i laughed when i saw this, props for that reference.
I would die for my belief's no questions asked and this quote come to mind "No matter how cleverly you sneak up on a mirror, your reflection always looks you straight in the eye" If you cannot look straight back into your reflections eye then i dont believe that you are worthy to live. If your belief calls for you to do an action you follow without fear. If you dont you spend the rest of your life running from your man in the mirror because you know that you when it pressure was on you couldn't hold your self to your personal standards. It would be the same as a living hell, you would spend the rest of your life regretting it.Housebroken Lunatic said:
Death isnt to be fear its just an endless nothingness, you will embrace it at some point. you can do it on your term with no regrets or its terms with plenty. We all die but not everyone truly lives.
Well opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and they all stink.Oldmanwillow said:
That said, I find your standpoint to be somewhat ludicrous. Everyone will have their regrets on their deathbed, regardless of what they did in life. Regret is as much a part of life as anything else, so spending your life adhering to a philosophy that will have you worrying about regret will ultimately cause you feelings of regret in the end anyway.
Also, if death is an endless nothingness (like I myself believe it to be actually), then ultimately everything I did in life will be completely worthless to me since I won't exist anymore. Thus making the whole idea of "dying for what you believe in" and all that crap pretty trivial, because in the end it won't really matter to me what I died for and didn't die for.
Thus, the only logical conclusion would be to enjoy living as long as I can, and do what I can to prolong my life as long as I still enjoy living, without too much worry about what I MIGHT "regret" on my deathbed.
I think we have a winner.brotherjudas said:
On topic: Absolutely nothing. If it is something that can be achieved by dying, it is something that can be achieved by living. Dying never solved anything (as hypocritical as it is for me to type that), and if one is geniunely willing to die for something (as opposed to mere rhetroic) then one can do far more good alive than dead.
Freedom or loved ones.
And that to, honestly militant atheists annoy the hell out of me, yes I hate them enough to die to destroy them.TheTurtleMan said:
your right everything that you do in life we end up to be completely worthless. This is only true after we have died. When we are alive everything in our live does have value to the individual. I choose to maximize the value of my life (to me) by not regretting any of it. After you are dead it doesnt matter (nothingness) the only thing that matters is how you live and are you happy with how you lived. My life has value and i wont do anything to reduce that value (to me anyways) when my time comes to embrace eternity i will do so without hesitation. By ignoring a core belief you WILL regret it for the rest of your life and it will haunt you. Why did you choose this path of regret just to live a bit longer? as you said in the long run a longer life lead by you will not amount to anything. The only thing that matters is the here and now, Live well, live happy, no regrets.Housebroken Lunatic said:
And i am not talking about a damn it i should of done that differently i mean like scarlet letter actions. the priest in that book i dont remember his name is a prime example of what i am talking about.
Trust me, when the time comes and you might actually have time to contemplate your actions on your deathbed, all those regrets about things you should have done differently will seem a lot more important close to the end than you think now.Oldmanwillow said:
Heck you'll probably regret not eating enough delicious hamburgers during your lifetime, and that might seem pretty trivial now, it sure as hell won't during your last moments.
But that's what life (and death) is, and regret will ultimately be a part of it.
When (or rather "if" since I have the purpose of becoming immortal, although I don't exactly know how I will accomplish that at the moment) that time comes for me, it won't be as bad, because I've experienced regret before, dealt with it and embraced it as a natural part of life.
"No regrets" is impossible to achieve unless you are some kind of psychopath, and if you aren't then ultimately that worry you have about regret will provide a tangible factor that might drag down your quality of life considerably. I won't have the same problem, because im not worried at all about what I might regret later on.
I should of clarified what i meant by regret sorry. I dont count all the little things like "did i eat enough great food" as a regret that will lower the value of your life, therefore not really a regret. but if you say like "watching an innocent person being beat to death while they are calling out for help". If you dont help you will see that face and hear that screaming for the rest of your life. you would spent a long time trying to "silence the lambs" so to speak.Housebroken Lunatic said:
What about a loved one was in that place of the person getting beat to death. could you stand to see and hear that for the rest of your life? or more simply if roles were reversed would you want them to try and help you or would you want them to sit and watch.
Yeah, I could stomach some bad memories. I mean I have plenty already, so a few more probably won't change matters.Oldmanwillow said:
Still I'd try and help a loved one out of course, but I don't see that as something you "die" for, bu rather "risk your life" for at worst.
When Im charging towards he attacker of a loved one, I don't go into the fight thinking that I'll lose and die. My mind will be entirely focused on taking the attacker out for good.
But I don't do it because my reluctance of doing i might land me with some unpleasant memories. I do it because I don't want to see my loved ones get hurt or risk dying at the hands of some random asshole.
But im also perfectly at peace with the idea that sometimes I might not be able to save everyone that I'd like to save. And he prospect of guilt, regret and bad memories certainly doesn't scare me.
There are a small handful of people I know that I would take a bullet for and all of them mean allot to me, each in their own way. I'd also give my life to save a child. I'm selfless when it comes to the lives of others that can't protect them selves.
