Would it be necessary to buy a HD monitor if I bought this PC

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Total LOLige

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I was wondering if I bought this PC [http://www.ebuyer.com/267120-acer-predator-g5900-desktop-pt-sf3e2-071]would I need to buy a HD monitor when gaming. Also I'm a total noob when it comes to graphics cards this has a NVIDIA GeForce GT340 1GB, what games could I run on this system? It seems as though this is a steal of a deal to me anyway.

EDIT: Also how does a non hd LCD compare to an HD one, is the quality difference drastic?
 

Elijah Ball

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well my first reaction is "duh". how else r u gonna be able to see anything?

also, that is a pretty good price.

to find games, just look at the system requirements and see if your cmptr can handle it.
 

weker

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Well it's kinda shooting your self in the foot if you buy a good PC with an awful monitor.
Sadly the database I use to look up graphics cards quality, doesn't have your graphics card on it.
 

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You can play with any monitor with a recent pc. Be it a 13'' crt or a 52'' led tv. It depends on the room you have on your desk and your budget. About your pc, you do realize most of your money is going to the trendy case. The CPU is decent but the graphics card sucks. Don't expect to play games like crysis or any recent game with above medium settings. Get something with at least a gtx550 or an ati hd5770 if you're planning on gaming with it. If you have doubts about their performance, check http://www.tomshardware.com. It has fancy graphs and charts and all that.
 

lacktheknack

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It'll run anything, just on lower settings. Pretty good for the price.

HD monitors are a dime a dozen nowadays, so go for it.
 

Total LOLige

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elcaraw said:
You can play with any monitor with a recent pc. Be it a 13'' crt or a 52'' led tv. It depends on the room you have on your desk and your budget. About your pc, you do realize most of your money is going to the trendy case. The CPU is decent but the graphics card sucks. Don't expect to play games like crysis or any recent game with above medium settings. Get something with at least a gtx550 or an ati hd5770 if you're planning on gaming with it. If you have doubts about their performance, check http://www.tomshardware.com. It has fancy graphs and charts and all that.
Cheers, I wasn't really expecting the graphics card to handle crysis because has awesome graphics.
 

JimmyC99

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you'd want to upgrade the GFX card to atleast a GTX560 (there around £150) on the same site
 

tahrey

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What exactly do you mean by an "HD" monitor, given that I haven't yet - in 15+ years - owned a desktop PC with a monitor that wasn't capable of resolutions that the TV industry would class as hi-def (960x720 upwards, refreshing at a progressive-scan rate of 50fps (or, 1440x1080 at 50hz interlace)), including our first 15" and some cruddy 14" random I picked up for £25 at a computer fair (remember those, children? before ebay?) and the 12" (XGA) laptop I'm typing from can do them as well?

(though you may be more familiar with the widescreen square-pixel 1280x720 and 1920x1080 resolutions, I don't think they're 100% required for an HD standards-compliant display - you just need that many lines, at that rate, with decent horizontal clarity; there's certainly a small cluster of digital display panels at my workplace that are basically feature-stripped "HD" plasma TVs, which are widescreen but with a physical pixel rez of 1024x768, same as my lappy! The manufacturer probably counted up all the R/G/B subpixels and declared it a 2.36 megapixel display or something)

In any case, if you have the spare desk space and the requisite spare banknote or three to upgrade from whatever random WXGA-ish (probably 1366x768 or 1440x900) thing was supplied with the PC... why not have a nice 22 inch "full HD" (ie 1920x1080) model? Or even a 1920x1200 one? Sharp and a decent size for playing back movies if you only sitting a few feet away anyhow, and offers a pretty nice desktop navigation environment. Lots of working room but not quite enough to induce disorientation like with the hugemongous 2560x1600 CinemaDisplay.

"Standard def" is what Win9x (if you're in the USA/other NTSC areas) / WinXP (in UK/other PAL areas) defaulted to, more or less... e.g. 640x480 or sort-of 800x600. Except with horizontal smearing and a low, interlaced refresh rate. Computer monitors haven't been that bad since the early 90s when we moved up from the 16-bits with their literal monitors, the ones that birthed the term (the first ones were just TV studio monitoring displays, i.e. TVs with baseband RCA sockets instead of tuners and aerial sockets).

I suppose you could always go fully retro, find a VGA-to-TV converter, and plug in a Phillips CM8833 or similar?
 

Total LOLige

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tahrey said:
I suppose you could always go fully retro, find a VGA-to-TV converter, and plug in a Phillips CM8833 or similar?
well I've got a 20" HD TV that I could use.
 

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ToTaL LoLiGe said:
tahrey said:
I suppose you could always go fully retro, find a VGA-to-TV converter, and plug in a Phillips CM8833 or similar?
well I've got a 20" HD TV that I could use.
Er, OK. That may work. It depends pretty much on what connection method you're able to use between them. At the very LEAST you want 15-pin VGA, if not DVI or HDMI. At a push, you could maybe use 3x RCA component (Y Cr Cb) if the video card can put it out and the TV can accept hi-def input using those sockets, but it's unlikely to work.

If you can only connect the two using composite or s-video (or SCART), forget it.

Also check the resolution and other specs. You're going to want finer definition and stronger contrast in a PC monitor than a cheap LCD TV can offer, though the brightness is usually ok.

What I originally put thinking you'd put "old 20 inch CRT TV ;) ---


NO DON'T DO THAT IT WAS A JOKE I HOPED YOU WOULD GET THE HUMOUR GIVEN EVERYTHING ELSE I'D SAID.

Seriously, don't do that. There are few better ways to cripple a good PC these days than trying to use it through a TV. Temporarily piping my Win98 desktop through an ISA slot based converter* into my 14" portable at uni when my monitor died, so I could still type up my work, was bad enough. You don't want to do it with a modern OS and games, on a larger but still just-as-poor** quality display. Just get the freakin' monitor. Or, an HDTV of similar spec if it's cheaper, so long as you make sure it has at least one of VGA, DVI or HDMI input and doesn't have crap physical specifications.

* just to complete this illustration of a different time, a large generational shift over the course of but one decade, I had this card to dump painstakingly downloaded DivXs (from 56k, and later 512k) onto videotape, because DVD players (and CDRs) were so expensive - though I did eventually get a disc player, a DVD writer was a couple years out of reach yet and VCDs sucked even in comparison to VHS if we're to be honest and ditch the rose tinted shades - and I didn't have any other realistic storage option, with 250gb-plus USB hard disks still being many years away.
Oh, and the CM8833 may not be that familiar to everyone (the more widely recognisable examples are a Commodore model whose code I forget, or a Microvitec Cub for the true veterans), but it's the one that came with our beloved late-1985 Atari ST when we bought it second hand in 1990, and gave a great many years of sterling service. Only being SD isn't that much of a problem when your highest (official) colour monitor resolution is only 640x200. The ST lives on, and the Philips is present in body... but not in spirit. I'm having to make do with a 12 inch (yes! 12" CRT!) Atari SM124 for now.
The CM is for Colour Monitor. The 8-8-3 is something to do with the dot pitch/resolution and input ports (80 column, some other 8-type number, plus SCART/TTL/composite), and the final 3 is for 13". Those were the days, eh.

** My portable was PAL (in fact, multistandard...), same as the card, and they could both handle SVideo which is relatively rare in the UK. If your 20" is NTSC standard and only takes composite input, then throw the idea VERY firmly on the trashpile, because even 640x480 will be a challenge for it in terms of clarity...
 

octafish

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Good luck finding a new monitor that isn't "HD". You can pick up a 20-24" 1980x1080 TN monitor for gaming very cheaply. Only look at IPS if you are serious about colour fidelity. I'm pretty good at using numeric values to judge colour in PS so I saved money with a TN monitor.

I don't know about UK prices but that seems overpriced for what you get. Last generation Dual Core, kinda crappy GPU, tiny hard drive, surely you can do better?