Would Joss Whedon work for Star Wars 7?

[NecroNinja]

i reckon if they brought him on as the director people arent going to take to it because it will be too small scale for there expectations, he does better when theres a foundation to work from.

I literally thought the polar opposite. Personally I don't want any more Star Wars movies. But if it were to be done, I'd say Whedon is the best in the business at the moment to handle it. And has he not proven in the Avengers that he can do large-scale set-pieces and story-telling? And I think he could infuse the movie with a bit of humour that would help in the reinvention of the series.

 

[ramboondiea]

i reckon if they brought him on as the director people arent going to take to it because it will be too small scale for there expectations, he does better when theres a foundation to work from.

I literally thought the polar opposite. Personally I don't want any more Star Wars movies. But if it were to be done, I'd say Whedon is the best in the business at the moment to handle it. And has he not proven in the Avengers that he can do large-scale set-pieces and story-telling? And I think he could infuse the movie with a bit of humour that would help in the reinvention of the series.

I don't question his skills in any way, its just he does a lot better when he either has tame to establish a setting or has a fairly rich setting to work with, I don't think these are the only conditions he can work under, but i think thats how he gets the best result.

if you look through his past works he really shines when it comes to group dynamics and characterisation, but both of these need context, avengers was a fantastic film, but alot of the characterisation took part in there own films and Whedon just brought it together (excellently in my opinion) but the film on its own, although very good defiantly benefits from him being able to gloss over the back-stories and go straight to the whole group/fighting thing.

as i have been lead to believe they are producing several starwars films, i think his talens would be better suited for one of the following films and not the one aimed at establishing the film. also my knowledge of star wars is...well lacking, so i cant say how he would do with the setting of the show as he defiantly has his own ideas of how things should be in the things he is involved in, and starwars is an already very well established setting

 

[gamernerdtg2]

Would Joss Whedon work for Star Wars 7?

Star Wars Episode 7.

Starring Nathan Fillion as Han Solo and Adam Baldwin as Chewbacca.

Make it happen Disney.

Well, Mark Hamill and the old gang have expressed interest in being a part of the cast. It's not supposed to be based on the Thrawn trilogy or anything else that's been written...we'll see how that goes!

And Disney...I'm suprized no one has come after them for monopoly. Lucas's stuff and Marvel both belong to them man...bummer.

 

[gamernerdtg2]

Maybe I'm being a little naggy on the subject but I can't think of a single good director for the task... maybe because SW is lost to me beyond salvation. Also I'm more concerned about the WRITER than the DIRECTOR. We know from eps V and VI you can throw in any (fairly competent) Hollywood hack and get away with it, that's not the problem. Who gets to write the damn thing, though, now that Lucas is out? Does he retain some creative control over the script? Besides, there're six movies, plus assorted spin-offs, novel tie-ins, comics, TV shows and videogames all preceding/constraining the new movie/s. Making a good, coherent, worthy movie will be a titanic ordeal for whoever writes it.

I hear you. They're not borrowing from any of the lore, and I'm glad for that. I think the director is just as important as the writer, because Empire Strikes Back was actually better than A New Hope, and Jedi was my favorite.

As to SW being lost beyond salvation, we know that you can thank Lucas for that, who said that he wrote 1,2 and 3 to appeal to 11 year olds. That was a sad mistake because now all the younger folks are checking out clone wars and etc while the people who made Star Wars famous are fuming. 7-9 need to appeal to both young and old. Perhaps Whedon can't do this...but it's all speculation at this point.

 

[gamernerdtg2]

I bet there's a lot of good directors they could use, but the most important thing is getting Lucas out of the equation, which gives them the freedom to make a Star Wars movie that actually contains things that Star Wars fans like. The prequels were just three whole films of George Lucas doing what he liked, and if anyone had a problem with that "Well, I'm Geroge Lucas, so..." Now we're free of that can actually get a shot at a good Star Wars.

That wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't aiming at 11 year old kids for 1-3. I respect George Lucas for 4-6, not 1-3. And you couldn't have said it better - Star Wars fans need to like it. Star Wars fans are the ones who saw 1-3 in the theaters. We made it popular. There's this weird divide now between the young and old generations because Lucas wanted 1-3 to apeal to younger folk. Nevertheless, I totally agree that Lucas being out of the picture is the best thing.

 

[gamernerdtg2]

He COULD do a great job, but he has other stuff to do.
I'd also like to see Neil Patrick Harris staring in it.
I don't know what as but I'm sure Joss would find him a place.

My first reaction to Neil P. Harris was LOL!! But it could work with him in a dramatic role. I can see him doing that.

 

[Your Gaffer]

Star Wars 7 will hopefully be terrible and let the series be put to rest. Lets let some new adventures happen, set in new worlds with new characters.

These days they run these things into the ground, grind out all that is good, and then throw away the husk once they've sickened even the most hardened fans.

Whatever happened to just letting a good thing be?

 

[gamernerdtg2]

I don't question his skills in any way, its just he does a lot better when he either has tame to establish a setting or has a fairly rich setting to work with, I don't think these are the only conditions he can work under, but i think thats how he gets the best result.

if you look through his past works he really shines when it comes to group dynamics and characterisation, but both of these need context, avengers was a fantastic film, but alot of the characterisation took part in there own films and Whedon just brought it together (excellently in my opinion) but the film on its own, although very good defiantly benefits from him being able to gloss over the back-stories and go straight to the whole group/fighting thing.

as i have been lead to believe they are producing several starwars films, i think his talens would be better suited for one of the following films and not the one aimed at establishing the film. also my knowledge of star wars is...well lacking, so i cant say how he would do with the setting of the show as he defiantly has his own ideas of how things should be in the things he is involved in, and starwars is an already very well established setting

You have a good point here especially considering that they're not drwaing from the lore (Thrawn trilogy is supposed to be 7-9). I thought he did fine in Firefly, and he could defintely establish a backstory with a new project, but you're dead on - he needs time. He doesn't have time. I also thought the Avengers was one of the best movies of 2012, but the characters were established by the comic books and old TV shows well before the movies so Whedon had to represent or be laughed at. If he screwed up the Avengers, that would've been the death nell for him. I'm looking forward to the next movie, and I *think* he's got a TV series on the Avengers also in the works...

 

[JudgeGame]

He was the first person I thought of too. I should give Disney the benefit of the doubt and assume they wanted him but he was already busy with Marvel movies, ironically also owned by Disney. Abrams is just a safe bet by Disney. He's practically guaranteed to make a film that won't offend the existing fanbase even if it's incredibly bland and forgettable.

 

[KeyMaster45]

He was the first person I thought of too. I should give Disney the benefit of the doubt and assume they wanted him but he was already busy with Marvel movies, ironically also owned by Disney. Abrams is just a safe bet by Disney. He's practically guaranteed to make a film that won't offend the existing fanbase even if it's incredibly bland and forgettable.

You've obviously never met the spastic, twitching beings that make up the star wars fan base.

 

[gamernerdtg2]

Allow me to rephrase it then. Star Wars isn't what I think of when I think of an entire cast of snarky smug characters. Then again maybe I'm biased because I hate Malcolm Reynolds. It's not that Joss Whedon is a bad writer, it's just that Star Wars is a little too cheesy for his writing style.

Good point about Reynolds - the tv network (think it was Fox) didn't like his character as he depicted it on the first Firefly episode.

Star Wars 4-6 without 1-3 is not cheesy. If you put 1-3 in there, then I can see why you'd call it cheesy. Lucas is to blame for all the corniness in 1-3. I mean..."Anakin, you're breaking my heart"... let's not even talk about the choice of actors and the writing for those actors in 1-3. No comparison to the actors from 4-6. If you exclude Ewan McGregor, Sam Jackson, Anthony Daniels and Ian McDiarmid, what was the rationale for choosing Hayden Christenson? I'm stopping now because I'm going to start saying stuff that has already been said 1000's of times. The writing and in some cases the acting made 1-3 corny. That's all Lucas. He chose Christensen and justified it by saying that Vader was supposed to be a looser anyway. He outdid himself with 4-6. When you do something that good, you have to leave it alone. 1-3 is proof of the layman's proverb that says "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I'm getting off the soap box now...

Oh I agree with Beautiful Tragedy - the snarky thing is in all of the bounty hunters. I see Whedon doing quite well with Lando, Han and Leia, 3PO, R2D2, and another Yoda-type character for sure. He could write for Luke too. Star Wars had equally cool villans though, and I'm not sure he could do that too well.

 

[gamernerdtg2]

He was the first person I thought of too. I should give Disney the benefit of the doubt and assume they wanted him but he was already busy with Marvel movies, ironically also owned by Disney. Abrams is just a safe bet by Disney. He's practically guaranteed to make a film that won't offend the existing fanbase even if it's incredibly bland and forgettable.

You've obviously never met the spastic, twitching beings that make up the star wars fan base.

@JudgeGame - refer to Robot Chicken Star Wars. The fans are not far from what you see there.
@ KeyMaster45 - LOL

 

[Daniel Ferguson]

He might be able to do SW8.

 

[gamernerdtg2]

Star Wars 7 will hopefully be terrible and let the series be put to rest. Lets let some new adventures happen, set in new worlds with new characters.

These days they run these things into the ground, grind out all that is good, and then throw away the husk once they've sickened even the most hardened fans.

Whatever happened to just letting a good thing be?

I was just talking with a friend of mine who is in graphic design about this...he just put out a comic book called "No Where Man" and it's his own original character.

This thing you mention about grinding old characters into the ground (Superman again??) is something I wish people were more vocal about. None of the entities with $$ want to back new talent. On Broadway they bring in movie stars b/c those big named stars have a fan base, which equates to $$ for the producers. Batman, Superman, Wolverine, and most of the Marvel/DC characters are what sell now - not to mention all the video games they've been in - so that's all we see. It's a bittersweet thing.

I'm all for new talent though. Risk. I totally hear you. I take hope in the fact that it's going to be a new story for SW 7. JJ can't be deaf to all the fan angst over 1-3, especially seeing as how he's been dealing with Trekkies...he did kill Kirk though, so we'll see.

 

[Loonyyy]

Nope. You'd get a bunch of smug characters with a focus on character interaction, and occassionally contrived interpersonal conflict.

I like his stuff, he's just not right for this/

 

[BrotherRool]

Star Wars 7 will hopefully be terrible and let the series be put to rest. Lets let some new adventures happen, set in new worlds with new characters.

These days they run these things into the ground, grind out all that is good, and then throw away the husk once they've sickened even the most hardened fans.

Whatever happened to just letting a good thing be?

In many ways I agree with you on principle. There are many many things in the world that need to find a time to stop and it's one of the things that stopped me dipping my toes into comics is the way no-one has a settled final character arc.

Star Wars is the exception though. Except even then, I agree they should let the characters die. Even though I've heard the sequel books are better quality I've always been more interested in the media and books from other areas, because I don't want to see Luke or Solo or anyone again, particularly not after Star Wars 6 and they've had a happy ending.

But the cool thing about Star Wars is less it's characters and more it's universe and I think it's universe should be visited time and time again. There's always new planets and ideas and little takes on it. Star Wars has the best universe in pretty much all media ever and exploring that is a great thing thats produced many of the best games in gaming history. I assumed Star Wars 7 was going to be set some time in the future with new characters and new problems (and all the worlds will have grown and changed and the political situation will have changed) and I'm ready for a new adventure story exploring some corner of the world.

If it were to have Luke and the rest of it though, I'd agree with you completely, better laid to rest

 

[floppylobster]

No. Joss Whedon's stuff dates very quickly.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Argh, no. Ok, I imagine it's going to suck regardless, but Whedon's stuff is all so samey. Fine, if you are making Whedon's next "I'm so progressive only not really" thing, but don't let him fuck up something else.

 

[gamernerdtg2]

Argh, no. Ok, I imagine it's going to suck regardless, but Whedon's stuff is all so samey. Fine, if you are making Whedon's next "I'm so progressive only not really" thing, but don't let him fuck up something else.

Wooow! So interesting to see a few people who agree with this!

 

[gamernerdtg2]

In many ways I agree with you on principle. There are many many things in the world that need to find a time to stop and it's one of the things that stopped me dipping my toes into comics is the way no-one has a settled final character arc.

Star Wars is the exception though. Except even then, I agree they should let the characters die. Even though I've heard the sequel books are better quality I've always been more interested in the media and books from other areas, because I don't want to see Luke or Solo or anyone again, particularly not after Star Wars 6 and they've had a happy ending.

But the cool thing about Star Wars is less it's characters and more it's universe and I think it's universe should be visited time and time again. There's always new planets and ideas and little takes on it. Star Wars has the best universe in pretty much all media ever and exploring that is a great thing thats produced many of the best games in gaming history. I assumed Star Wars 7 was going to be set some time in the future with new characters and new problems (and all the worlds will have grown and changed and the political situation will have changed) and I'm ready for a new adventure story exploring some corner of the world.

If it were to have Luke and the rest of it though, I'd agree with you completely, better laid to rest

I've seen that there actually will be a new story. I've also seen that Mark Hamill and the gang wouldn't mind being involved with the new flicks. I'm glad about that b/c the Thrawn trilogy revisits stuff that might make 7-9 run into the same issues 1-3 ran into...but I still say that 1-3 were done super poorly. If you're gonna do Star Wars, you have to do it right. By "right" I mean 4-6.