Would someone like Skyrim/Oblivion if they loved Bioshock? (EDITED TITLE)

[Treblaine]

This is speaking as someone who REALLY liked bioshock, loved it, still love it. Even Bioshock 2 (that for some reason people aren't so hot for) but are they even in the same ball park? I love how Bioshock is a tight, responsive and engaging action game where you can wrench-fence with the best of foes yet the weapons still have depth in stats and plasmids. And how that changes how you fight and engage with your foes, so many paths to balance and dedicate to.

I've not avoided The Elder Scrolls but I haven't been very drawn to it from how stiff the combat seems, and repetitive the enemy types. If they all run at you and hack at you then it doesn't matter how different their designs are it's the same enemy.

And then there is the design... they don't seem all that compelling to me. Nothing like the art-deco steam-punk/diesel-punk stylings, the retro-mutant gangster foes, the cultist maniacs, those Big Daddies and the cockney brutes. I have Oblivion on Steam, after a year of owning it I finally installed it but I wonder if I wouldn't rather just play bioshock again?

So, someone sell Skyrim to me. I see it everywhere but I don't see the fuss?

 

[ImperialSunlight]

I don't think TES is really at all comparable to Bioshock. The combat isn't the main aspect of TES, the draw is the exploration and role-playing. Also, compared to Oblivion you may find a bit of an increase in depth in combat (not all enemies are exactly the same), but not by much. There are more enemies that attack with magic or attack from the air. Skyrim has a very rugged "Viking" feel to it, I like it but it may not be for you, if you like the style of Bioshock more.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Played Bioshock for the first time this year. It's not anywhere near comparable to the design of The Elder Scrolls series.

It's not even Apples and Oranges.
It's more like Apples and Shrimp Scampi.

 

[Zaik]

Would I like diapers if I loved bananas?

 

[CarlsonAndPeeters]

I don't think your love of Bioshock would affect anyone else's enjoyment of the Elder Scrolls, or any game for that matter.

 

[teebeeohh]

in other words:
How does my liking of sushi influence my taste in ice cream?
not at all.
you can't even bring up the fallout argument that the main method of dispatching foes is shooting them in the face.

 

[Treblaine]

I don't think your love of Bioshock would affect anyone else's enjoyment of the Elder Scrolls, or any game for that matter.

Yeah, I need to fix that, the title was supposed to be:

"Would one like Skyrim/Oblivion if THEY loved Bioshock?"

Anyone know how to make a mod request?

EDIT: fixed nao

 

[Yeager942]

Do you like open world games?
Do I enjoy having no direction other than my own will to lead me?
Do I really like vikings?
Can I forgive bad and repetitive voice acting?
Can I look past the bugs that really bother me?


If you agree with 3 of these, you will like Skyrim.

 

[NightHawk21]

Honestly it depends how you play. Wielding magic kind of looks like wielding plasmids, but bioshock was a lot more linear and not as expansive IMO. That being said Skyrim is fantastic and a streamlined version of Skyrim in my view, but try out oblivion since its a lot cheaper and see if you like it. You can pick up a copy of Oblivion with all DLC for like 20 dollars now (assuming your in the states or Canada).

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Played Bioshock for the first time this year. It's not anywhere near comparable to the design of The Elder Scrolls series.

It's not even Apples and Oranges.
It's more like Apples and Shrimp Scampi.

No, it's definitely apples and oranges. They are both fruit, but different. TES and Bioshock are both video games, but different. Apples and Shrimp Scampi would be like comparing video games with other sources of entertainment (like TV). Because apples and shrimps are both food. Food is the large category, while fruit, vegetables, meat etc. are subcategories. Video games, TV, theater, music etc. are a subcategory of entertainment. That's how analogies work.

Anyway, I don't think you can reach a decision about TES based on whether you like Bioshock. TES is the definite role playing game focused more on exploration. Bioshock is a linear story driven FPS with RPG elements.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well this is comparing potatoes and gas giants, they are not in any way similar... maybe if you find a really round potato...

But anyway, TES delivers a wonderfully huge D&D fantasy world to explore, and everything else they add in is a bit shit.
So decide if you want to go exploring D&D worlds, if you don't then leave it be.

 

[Atmos Duality]

No, it's definitely apples and oranges. They are both fruit, but different. TES and Bioshock are both games, but different. Apples and Shrimp Scampi would be like comparing video games with other sources of entertainment (like TV).

Heh...Are you seriously trying to "disprove" a deliberately vague analogy?
I really do live amongst the Contraryions.

I could reinterpret my own analogy to compare genres. Or setting. Or tone.

 

[Treblaine]

Do you like open world games?
Do I enjoy having no direction other than my own will to lead me?
Do I really like vikings?
Can I forgive bad and repetitive voice acting?
Can I look past the bugs that really bother me?


If you agree with 3 of these, you will like Skyrim.

1) kinda, I only like linear games when they are short, sweet and fast paced.
2) not really, I guess casually. It's goof to be working towards some goal
3) No more than anyone else, definitely not as much as mutant 1950's gangsters
4) Only if hilariously bad (Resident Evil 1996) but if it is competently boring, that's the worst
5) graphical, maybe. But physics, no! Graphics come and go with every year, I can suspend disbelief on some dodgy textures. But screw with my pace at your peril. Especially framerate and screentear GRRR!

So
Yes, no, no, probably not, and maybe.

(wait, how can the last one, tolerating a type of mistake, be a recommendation? Are the bugs a feature of Bethesda games?)

Hmm. I realise I may just be wishing out loud there aren't more games like Bioshock...

 

[Trivea]

Um... I like both TES and Bioshock a great deal? I'm fans of both games, personally. But, yeah, it really is like saying "hey if you like Mortal Kombat would you like Little Big Planet?" Besides the fact that they're both... FPS games that don't really utilize typical FPS weapons...

All I can tell you is that I'm a huge fan of both series, but the sheer scope of Oblivion and Skyrim, with the main quest, sub quests, self-imposed quests, etc makes Bioshock seem almost like a demo.

Captcha: vryoucr (1in). One inch of vryoucr.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

No, it's definitely apples and oranges. They are both fruit, but different. TES and Bioshock are both games, but different. Apples and Shrimp Scampi would be like comparing video games with other sources of entertainment (like TV).

Heh...Are you seriously trying to "disprove" a deliberately vague analogy?
I really do live amongst the Contraryions.

I could reinterpret my own analogy to compare genres. Or setting. Or tone.

Oh, don't mind me. I didn't mean anything bad, I just like to play around with similes, metaphors and analogies.

 

[Furioso]

Bioshock? You mean the game where you go into a pseudo-futuristic 1950s largely linear underwater city with Anne Rand undertones to fight mutants with guns and mutant powers? How would that be similar in any way to an open world viking fantasy game?

 

[Atmos Duality]

Oh, don't mind me. I didn't mean anything bad, I just like to play around with similes, metaphors and analogies.

You aren't alone there. If I tortured analogies any more, I could be tried for war crimes.

 

[Treblaine]

Well this is comparing potatoes and gas giants, they are not in any way similar... maybe if you find a really round potato...

But anyway, TES delivers a wonderfully huge D&D fantasy world to explore, and everything else they add in is a bit shit.
So decide if you want to go exploring D&D worlds, if you don't then leave it be.

I don't think I've ever played a D&D game... unless you think wasting 20 hours in Final Fantasy X counts (I swill want those 20 hours back Square! You can take my money but that was 20 hours of tedious and joyless labour for nothing, way I see it they owe me $120 minimum wage.)

So, if TES adds on a load of stuff, what is a more pure D&D game? I understand it's a rather vague term, my understanding is you couldn't have a true D&D game without a conscious, human and creative DM.

In fact, I always liked Left 4 Dead as the Director AI was such a good "virtual DM", Valve really nailed the pace formula so well. It was the DM that always drew me to tabletop D&D more than the stats. But Computer D&D, what the heck is that? Wizardry 8, is that worth checking out first?

See, I've been burned by so many games (Final Fantasy X) that promise so much, and I put so many hours into it hoping it gets good but nothing ever delivers for me. If I get into a game, I want to stick with it... but not if I'm not going to get anything out of it.

Yeah, that's way too complicated really.

 

[drummond13]

Would someone like apples if they liked escargot?

Would someone like paragliding if they liked tennis?

Would someone like Die Hard if they liked Love, Actually?