Would you become veggie to help save the planet?

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Ocelot GT

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becomming a veggie will not save the planet. The meats which we eat the most of are from animals which are in no danger of becomming extinct and are domesticated not wild.

Furthermore to grow crops and vegetables you need land. Forests have been cleared for farmland, and the pesticides used on crops wash straight back into the water ways and pollute the rivers and oceans.

So either you can directly help kill an animal which isnt going to go extinct and eat meat. or you can eat more veggies and do more harm to our oceans and environment.

I do recall a case in florida where the fish had become toxic and tonnes of gators were dying and the river was a health disaster. all because of some pesticide run off from a veggie farm.

Just because you're eating veggies, doesnt in any way mean its good for animals and the environment.
 

Vimbert

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I would, since I can't really afford to eat meat that much these days anyway. How bad could it be?

*cue tofu food montage*

Please, in the name of all that is holy, NO MORE!

But in all seriousness, I think so.

EDIT: Unless it'd require me to stop drinking milk. I am to cereal as most are to coffee, and I can't STAND the taste of "soy milk".
 

manaman

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I like meat. Even if they shut down all the cattle farms and killed off all the domesticated livestock I would be off in the my woods tending my illegal underground cattle operation.

Edit: And I would burn all that methane to provide power for the place. I also like dairy products, just try to take my milk and cheese away. I dare you.
 

twcblaze

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honestly, no. for two very simple reasons:

1) Meat is delicious.

2) vegetables covered in buffalo sauce doesn't make any damn sense.
 

eatenbyagrue

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A resounding "get the hell away from me". Animals are just as natural as plants are, and if anyone tries to tell me otherwise, I have several National Geographic specials to show them.

Also, if certain anthropological theories are correct, then meat is pretty much what enabled homo sapiens to survive as a species, on top of being absolutely bloody delicious.
 

Mozared

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Depends on how you put it. I don't believe in 'fixing the environment' by anything else than using renewable energy sources - I reckon us humans have far less effect on this planet than we like to think.

If you'd post me the question "If you become a vegetarian now, all is fine, if you don't, the planet will implode", I'd become one - I don't love meat *that* much.
 

SimuLord

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It is pure, refined human arrogance to suggest that we are significant enough that our diet has any meaningful effect on the planet on which we live.

You can have my cheeseburger when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
 

Satosuke

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This is a completely short-sighted, retarded idea. Some climates are completely not conducive to the conditions needed for farming strictly produce, like in New England. If they want to go all vegetarian, mass amounts of produce would have to be trucked in, which in turn burns fossil fuels and makes up for the lost pollution of the cows.

A far more compelling change would be to eat locally and seasonally (ie. buy from farmer's markets). That way, supply chains become shorter and the need for long distance shipping of food would be lessened. Granted, this theory isn't perfect, and would make for less of a variety of things to eat at any given time, but come on, we don't really need golden raspberries and asparagus in the middle of December, guys. American culture has lost much of the knowledge about seasonality that our parents and grandparents knew so well, diluted into a few choice food items that pop up every big feasting holiday.

Besides, going vegetarian/vegan poses a risk for symptoms of orthorexia. One can live very healthily on a veg diet, but few actually understand how. That, and meat is too delicious to give up.
 

Violence

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@Satosuke is right on the money. Eating locally, whether meat or not, is the best way to go. It's also very unhealthy for children to subsist solely on vegan or vegetarian diets.

If you really want to help the environment, use less petroleum-based products and don't have kids. Having children is probably the most selfish and destructive things a couple can do. Want to impact the world by a lifetime of recycling (which, in a great irony, is also detrimental to the environment, albeit on a lesser scale) without having to sort through any cans, newspapers, or cardboard EVER? Don't have kids.

Our society wouldn't be at the place it is today without children, this is true, but are we going to wait for a new disease or war to wipe us out? If you haven't noticed, nature has a way of dealing with overpopulation when humans are too weak to mind their numbers.

There are so many children already in the world without love. We as humans must take better care of what we consider ourselves ''masters'' of, otherwise we'll be sitting ducks, proverbial kings without crowns. Of course a meteor could wipe us out as a previous poster suggested, making any conservation efforts in vain, but that doesn't mean we turn our backs on what we can accomplish here and now in making the Earth a better place to live.
 

Red Right Hand

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I think in response to this thread, i'm going to eat all the meat I possibly can tonight! Do you know why? Because we're just delaying the inevitable. Climate change is going to happen and we should just sit back and enjoy what we have. I'm certainly not the pro-active type who try to stop things before they happen so FUCK IT!!!
 

Dr Ampersand

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flaming_squirrel said:
Dr Ampersand said:
No, besides the main problems are overpopulation, pollution and car exhausts.
Wrong, the methane produced by livestock creates a larger issue then the entire transport section combined apparently.
Going to ask for source, I mean I know that there are a lot of lifestock but I'll need sources before I can believe that it is a bigger pollution problem that planes which use gallons upon gallons of fuel for take off alone
 

jpoon

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Bah, I don't believe in man-made global warming. I do believe in "Unstoppable global warming every 1500 years" so I won't be quitting with the meat eating. Tree huggers are just going to have to accept it and find another scam to scare people with.

Don't forget that H2O produces more of a greenhouse gas effect than anything else in our air! BAN DI-HYDROGEN MONOXIDE PEOPLE, IT'S GONNA KILL YOU ALL!
 

Mcupobob

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global warming or "climate change" is not caused my man or geenhouse gas but instead is just the nauteral rythem of the earth, and even if that is not true I would not stop eating meat for anything pluse the logic does not make since stop eating the methan producing cows and start eating the carbon eating plants who produce oxygen?
 

f0re1gn

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No. If you can - go ahead. But my metabolism won't allow me to give up on meat. I'll be probably dead from weight loss (or be killed by someone - lack of meat-rich food makes me VERY angry and intolerant) than this idea will bring some results.