would you ever become vegan?

[Cowabungaa]

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No, you are wrong. You assume you'll get that spinach and those lemons in nature. News flash; they're either the results of centuries of selective breeding, or they simply don't grow everywhere and at all times. You wouldn't last two years.

 

[hutchy27]

No I wouldn't, I like chicken, cheese and all that stuff and I wouldn't like to give it up. I don't mind if someone is a Vegan, that's fine by me.

 

[spiffleh]

Never! I love beef too much u__u

 

[magicmonkeybars]

No I couldn't even if I wanted to.

Veganism isn't just about what you eat but also about not using animal products like leather shoes and woolen sweaters, feathered pillows, riding a horse or having a pet animal.
It just seems like more effort than it's worth.

No matter how much effort you put in, your life as a human will always include animals in some way and benefite from their suffering.

 

[DanielDeFig]

No. Too much bother. I like my meat, and i love cheese. Plus, me and my family love food and cooking too much for us to limit ourselves.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

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No, you are wrong. You assume you'll get that spinach and those lemons in nature. News flash; they're either the results of centuries of selective breeding, or they simply don't grow everywhere and at all times. You wouldn't last two years.

Uhm, no? Spinach is just an example with which all of us would be familiar. The same is true for other leafy vegetables. Also to the best of my knowledge, spinach hasn't been selectively bred for its iron content, which isn't even available for you unless you know what you are doing. As for lemons, any citrus fruit will do. Or berries. Or root veggies like carrots. Oh, and broccoli. Do you really think lemons are special? Or for that matter artificially selected to provide even more vitamin C? Sorry mate, you're full of crap.

But let's try something else. How well would you survive? Let's just try a simple test. One of the following will kill you in a horrible way, the other one is quite delicious. Can you guess which one?

Spoiler

 

[Someone Depressing]

I don't like organic food's.

I'm more into Dairy (infact that's the only food type I really like other than meat).

The human body need's a mixture of meat, water, and dairy to stay alive (Dairy probally being the most important since it hold's up your bones).

That's just my view of thing's. Infact I don't even like organic product's except bread.

EDIT : I would'nt be suprised if HUman's weren't intended to find fire to cook food on.

The digestive system can process meat, and what the Cavemen did to utilize this function is beyong beleif, so why put this great opportunity to mankind to waste?

 

[dex-dex]

I was for a while a vegetarian and damn it did not go well.
then I moved to ocvo vegetarian and I still do that from time to time.
but sometimes you can't go wrong with some nice piggie piggie!

 

[ajh93]

no chance at all.do i want better treatment of animals in factory farms?yes.would i go eat free range if i could afford it?yes.cut it out of my diet altogether?no.

 

[rubinigosa]

wait ?...what ? either I am miss understanding what you have written or did you just hint that you get more attractive if you eat vegan ?...If I am miss understanding then I am sorry.

you're at peace, you respect all others and their decisions and you like what you see in the mirror (both physically and psychologically) ... if that's the case then cravings won't be an issue ... especially with all the beautiful vegan cuisine from all around the world to keep your taste buds occupied

no, you don't have to be attractive to look in the mirror, smile and feel good about yourself

Yes, I know that you do not have to be attractive to do that.But many people still think that they have to be "attractive" to do that.

and that's the problem ... like i said, if you feel good about yourself after you've changed your life in some way, you seem healthier, feel healthier and are committed and at peace ... then you're going to want to smile when you look in the mirror.

those people who think that are obviously in a dark place .. either that or they're insensitive douchebags ... when you feel good about yourself and you find peace and confidence then looking in the mirror and smiling isn't something you have to try to do ... you just will

I agree with you about this but I do not agree with persons that says that you have to do a certain change to do this like going vegan.

no, no ,no u missed my point .. i didn't say you needed an extreme change to achieve this ... what i meant was as long as you feel good about yourself no one elses opinion should get in the way of that depending on the context.

i used veganism as an example since it's the primary subject in this thread .. it could be anything you do, as long as it works for you and makes you feel good.

Actually it seems like you missed my point (or I did a translation mistake) because you just wrote that I missed your point then wrote the point I was trying to tell you...anyway it seems like we are agreeing about the subject.

nah, u made no errors ... twas i .. with my 5am sleepiness XD ... either way i think we both said what we needed to say and we both understand each others perspective so it's all good

i feel like there's more to be said but for the life of me i can't seem to think ... more i need sleep but it could be that most of you guys are right and i need more cod liver omega 3 haha ^^ ... the cod teases me .... knowing i will never jack his liver ... wait wtf am i talking about ... LOL imma pass out now XD

Yeah,you do that before you accidentally steals the cods liver but seriously I didn't notice this until now but why is it not a poll ? anyway feels a bit wrong when you say that "we" might be right after you have defended your opinion.

I thought about making it a poll at the start but i kind of wanted to hear peoples worded opinions instead of having most of them click 1 button and leave XD

Shame alot of people on this thread think i'm trying to convert people or claim some kind of moral highground .. ah well

yeah it is kind of confusing but if it turns out that we were both trying to make the same point and one of us (me lol) missed it completely, then i see it as a mutual win when the air is cleared

one of those ..

guy1. "THAT WALL IS BLUE!!"

guy2. "NO IT'S NOT!! ... it's BLUE!!!"

guy1. "DIEEEEE!!!!"

I was thinking more about the part where you said "... more i need sleep but it could be that most of you guys are right" I just felled that was weird of you to say that...I am just glad we did not do the part where guy1. goes "DIEEEEE!!!!" and tries to kill guy2. with a blue paint bucket.

 

[Beryl77]

I personally don't really see a reason to become a vegan. I don't have ethical problems with eating meat and I think my lifestyle is healthy enough. I don't care whether I die when I'm 80 or 90 years old.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Uhm, no? Spinach is just an example with which all of us would be familiar. The same is true for other leafy vegetables. Also to the best of my knowledge, spinach hasn't been selectively bred for its iron content, which isn't even available for you unless you know what you are doing. As for lemons, any citrus fruit will do. Or berries. Or root veggies like carrots. Oh, and broccoli. Do you really think lemons are special? Or for that matter artificially selected to provide even more vitamin C? Sorry mate, you're full of crap.

Yes, yes they are. Not for those specific things no, because when they did that they didn't even know vitamins existed. Fact is, humans have picked certain plants and have cultivated them for millenia, selectively breeding them in the proces. Pretty much every vegetable we eat at the moment doesn't exist in nature in that form, they're all cultivated species. Citrus fruits, beans and broccoli are excellent examples of that actually.

But even without that, you're assuming that you can find them in large enough quantities to survive on. You're also assuming you can easily find combinations like spinach and citrus fruits together, and you're assuming you can find them easily enough so that you spend less calories gathering them than you get from them. Why do you think herbivores have huge digestive tracks? It's pretty damn hard getting enough energy from pure plant material.

Humans have never lived on plant material alone, hell, there are strong indications that eating animal products was one of the forces in our evolution [http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html]. So why on earth do you think you could do something that humans have pretty much never done? You're not a deer.

But let's try something else. How well would you survive? Let's just try a simple test. One of the following will kill you in a horrible way, the other one is quite delicious. Can you guess which one?

Spoiler

Honestly I'd just set traps for rabbits and other small critters. But I'll play your game; they're cuttlefish, the first one is poisoness, the second is edible. The warning colours are a dead giveaway.

But it's not something to be smug about, plants and mushrooms have the same problem.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

I'm a vegetarian already, but I don't see myself as a vegan.

 

[gundargundar]

I've been a vegetarian for the 8 or 9 years and I've been trying to go full vegan for the past two years. It's really hard, and I'm a slave to dairy products -I love gouda too much-. And moving to vienna has made it way harder, as vegi products are a lot harder to get than in Seattle.

 

[One of Many]

you are talking to jordanXlord the Vegan Hunter

Hell no

Meat beats Vegan "Powers"

*sees Vegan running for life*
oh Here we go

*Gun Shot*

And other Vegan dead...oh how i love my job

A gun old boy? How unsporting!

*straps on flamethrower and sheaths a number of long knifes*

One must get close to the prey, to have an honorable kill.

*spots another Vegan*

Tally-Ho!

 

[Lord Kloo]

Well I'd like because Animals should have exactly the same rights as humans to their life and products..

However, my will power doesn't even cover being vegetarian.. making me a hypocrite in some many ways..

 

[Feylynn]

Three reasons off the top of my head for No?
Bacon, Cheese, Bacon.

Though as long as Dr.Pepper doesn't come from mysterious animal I have yet to meet I may be alright if forced to by threat of death.

Beyond that I really don't get the reasoning.
If we want animal equality we should either try animals for murder and animal cruelty when they kill and eat each other or have no issue eating other animals because we possess the same rights they do to hunt and eat for our survival.

 

[Teixas]

given the rigth argument ..why not

 

[Darth Sea Bass]

What and give up bacon??? I think not!

 

[Varrdy]

If I became a vegan I would be dead within around...*counts on fingers*...erm...*does some mental arithmetic (which is most likely wrong)*...tomorrow!

Wardy