Would you kill the Joker?

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Johnny Novgorod

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Absolutely, but only if it's the perfect-crime kind of scenario where I get away with it sans charges.
 

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PsychicTaco115 said:
I wouldn't even hesitate

The only hard thing about that choice is keeping it a secret from everyone that I did what the Bat couldn't
Pretty much my response. Heck, it wouldn't even be a question of me trying to do "the right thing". I'm in a room alone with the fucking Joker. I'm LUCKY to have a gun because otherwise I'd be shitting my pants.

I'd shoot him, it wouldn't be about being brave, it'd be about being fucking TERRIFIED.
 

Keiichi Morisato

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I would without any hesitation, it would be for the greater common good. sometime one must fight evil with another evil so to speak.
 

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Should I be morally conflicted about this? I've obviously never killed anyone so maybe in a real situation I wouldn?t be able to do it but I?m pretty sure I?d kill him, yeah.
 

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Yeah, maybe. I don't want to even hold a gun, but maybe I will be different when I'm in the same building with a super villain. He's as fucked up as Hitler. I'd say he is worse if he can be so motivational and resourceful without any help.
 

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Someone already pretty much had this same question presented to him in Vietnam.



http://www.cracked.com/article_18593_6-classics-despised-by-people-who-created-them_p2.html

Read #2.

At the time the picture was taken, Loan was Chief of Police and the guy getting shot was the leader of a Viet Cong assassination squad tasked with murdering South Vietnamese police officers, and if those officers couldn't be found, their families would be killed instead.

The man Loan shot had been caught near a ditch containing 34 murdered men, women and children, among them were the wife and six children of one of Loan's closest friends (the six murdered kids were also Loan's godchildren).
As you can see, he responded to this with a bullet to the head of the murderer. I agree with this decision and Cracked did a good job of summarizing why.

C. Colville said:
Sometimes, acts that would otherwise be seen as criminal are justifiable in a paranoid surrounding such as those present in a time of civil unrest.
 

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No - I couldn't. We (human beings) don't have the right to decide who dies. Unless it is actually self-defence, I don't think that I would be justified in killing someone else.
 

Jolly Co-operator

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Yep, without a doubt, I'd kill him. I believe in the sanctity of human life, and I believe that it is precious and should be preserved when possible. However, I also have a pragmatic side to myself, and in this case, the pragmatist wins the internal argument. It's been made clear that he can't be cured, can't be contained, and can't be made to reform. In the interest of saving thousands of other lives, then yes, I'll shoot him.
 

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This is an issue?

Once in head to be sure. Once in the lap for vindictiveness. The rest in everything else to be absolutely sure.
 

lord canti

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I'd feel a lot worse letting someone go who I know will kill hundreds of people and knowing I had a chance to stop it, than just killing a single being. So yes if I had a guarantee shot at him I would do it.
 

Kajin

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Yes I would kill the Joker. He's just gonna come back next episode anyway.
 

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frizzlebyte said:
I'm tempted to agree with this. However, I wonder if the failure of Gotham's government to pass a symbolic test should be allowed to cause that much suffering for the citizens who have done nothing to truly deserve such endless, mindless suffering, other than perhaps not throwing their laughably ineffectual government into the sewer.
If you think about it a little further, Batman may actually be the one thing preventing the system from fixing itself. Things never get too bad, because he's always there. When Joker's got something that's just absolutely going to throw Gotham into chaos, when Two-Face has gotten too big to stop, when anything gets to be too much, Batman appears and stops it. So Gotham never has to face the consequences of the things that might just throw them over the edge and cause real, momentous change. As a result, they never do, and the festering stew keeps on boiling.
 

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Yes. Every time. Without hesitation. Batman's inability to kill the Joker borders on reckless irresponsibility at this point.
 

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Norithics said:
I don't think I would. Because to me, the Joker has always represented the failure of Gotham, not the failure of Batman. He's clearly insane, and clearly dangerous, but he's just a guy. He doesn't shoot lasers from his biceps or fart the Power Cosmic, he's a skinny dude in facepaint.

So, in a way to me, he's a test. If Gotham can deal with the Joker, then they deserve the safety that comes from it. If they can't, then it's pretty clear that he's just emblematic of a larger problem that Gotham can't deal with and needs to.
this is a nice idea, and i agree if i were batman i wouldn't kill joker.

but i'm wondering if you're forgetting a few key lore points of the joker, also crime is some stupid level that's unpoliceable in gotham which also hamstrings the cops

joker is a badass. and that isn't paint.
( well.. meh, let's not get into that.. revisionism will consume the entire post )

now the problem here is the representation of joker varies a lot from comics and throughout the films but in all of them the average citizen or cop is automatically weaker than the joker at everything despite his sometimes scrawny appearance he is a master of trickery in combat and will pull crazy weapons or impossible moves on you.

( or just cherry bombs and a gat. )

bare in mind, batman is also 'just a guy' in a batsuit that happens to be a billionaire bodybuilder with serious moves and gadgets and well, batman > everything right?

joker is batman through the looking glass of insanity and chaos, and is undoubtedly weaker but plays on batman's morals to get away with things so the question is, would you mess with an insane criminal version of batman?

I still call badass, or at the VERY least armed and psychopathic!
 

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Anyone who wouldn't kill the joker is ridiculous, batman included (which has been admitted by the man himself)

Justice and all that jazz, but I'd take the jailtime
 

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Norithics said:
I don't think I would. Because to me, the Joker has always represented the failure of Gotham, not the failure of Batman. He's clearly insane, and clearly dangerous, but he's just a guy. He doesn't shoot lasers from his biceps or fart the Power Cosmic, he's a skinny dude in facepaint.

So, in a way to me, he's a test. If Gotham can deal with the Joker, then they deserve the safety that comes from it. If they can't, then it's pretty clear that he's just emblematic of a larger problem that Gotham can't deal with and needs to.
Seriously? lets imagine you as a citizen of Gotham are in that situation, you wouldn't take the shot because the man terrorising your already crime infested city, of which most criminals are insane loonies, because you see it as a test.... good thing you are not on some anti-terrorist task force

OT: as a normal citizen, although I don't think anyone still living in Gotham can be categorized as normal, I would most definitely take the shot

BTW, I am pro capital punishment, it would be interesting if the OP included this in hist question, see how far peoples replies match their real life stances

Leemaster777 said:
An interesting moral dilemma for you all: If given the opportunity, would you kill the Joker?

Here's the scene: You and the Joker are in an abandoned building together. Batman, the rest of the Bat-family, and the Gotham police force are all on the other side of town dealing with one of the Joker's schemes. You're 100% certain of this fact. No one is aware of where you two are, and no one is coming any time soon.

The Joker has no goons, no Harley, no weapons, no traps, and is unconscious on the ground. You have a gun. A 100% real, non-trick, kill-you gun.

The Joker hasn't actually DONE anything to you. He hasn't killed anyone you know or care about. But, his reputation remains. He's killed thousands, he's going to continue killing in the future, and his current scheme is probably killing people as you're standing there.

You could put a bullet in his head, and no-one would ever know... or probably care. And even in the HIGHLY unlikely event that someone figures out it was you (again, almost impossible to do), you could simply claim self-defense, and that'd be enough for basically everyone. Do you take this one, single opportunity to stop him here and now, and possibly save thousands of lives?

Remember, this is the Gotham justice system we're talking about here. Even if you simply turned him in, he'd just get thrown in Arkham again, and escape again, and nothing would change.

Despite all this... I don't think I could do it. I just don't think I have it in me for cold-blooded murder like that.