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Da Orky Man

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lockecole21 said:
Da Orky Man said:
Esotera said:
I remember a doctor saying that children under 12 should never be given caffeine, and this source seems to back it up: http://www.diethealthclub.com/caffeine/caffeine-and-children.html

Dehydration and an increased heart rate can't be good. It's definitely wrong, and if it's occurring regularly then it probably borders on neglect.
Although I completely agree with you, given that it affects the heart-rate of children much more because they simply have less blood, everyone make one mistake.
Energy drinks DON'T DEHYDRATE YOU!
Technically, the ingredients do, but at most of the drink is actually water. It hydrates you.

Part of my war against scientific ignorance.
sorry to burst your bubble but caffeine is a diuretic and in significant amounts does indeed dehydrate and can cause stomach issues.
First, I wasn't competing the fact that it does nasty stuff to your stomach, because yes, it does.
Second, water is also a diuretic. Caffeine is not at the strength needed to make you lose 250ml from 80mg of caffeine. Refer to my sources:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html?_r=1

http://journals.lww.com/acsm-essr/pages/articleviewer.aspxyear=2007&issue=07000&article=00008&type=abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19774754

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/559762_2

I'm very thorough when arguing.

What kind of significant amounts are you talking about? Most energy drinks have 120mg per litre.
 

Sarah Frazier

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SgtFoley said:
chase miller said:
i also agree

giving caffeine to a minor is just wrong
People under 18 should not be given pop?
Red Bull isn't pop as much as it is highly concentrated caffeine and other 'energy enhancers'. The can size is geared towards adults who want/need hours of energy, so a child with half as much mass will be even more affected and possibly develop health issues if they regularly get to drink a whole can of the stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull
"The caffeine content of a single can of Red Bull contains 80 mg/250 ml of caffeine. This is about the same as one cup of normal coffee, or slightly less depending on the brewing method."

So imagine giving a cup of coffee to a child and having to deal with the ball of energy afterwards.
 

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PS3fanboy said:
I don't claim it to be my decision, as they are your children, but I would at least try to give you facts about consequences, good and bad, so you can make more educated decisions. Whether or not that changes your decision is out of my hands, I just think that the world would be better if more people knew about the consequences of their decisions.

By the way, I am 18, male, and have no kids. I don't know if that changes your opinion of me or my statements.
People that give advice are one thing, I know a lot of parents appreciate any advice people will give especially first time parents.

Having children doesn't instantly give you all the knowledge in the world to do the right thing all the time.

My one and only problem are those in the 13 - 16 year old region that spew self righteous crap at other peoples parenting while still being, in essence, children themselves.

I'm not saying they are immature i'm not getting into the whole "age doesn't equal maturity" debate but I am saying they probably haven't seen enough of life to be commenting on someone else's parenting skills.

We've all made a mistake or *insert number of how many mistakes you've made here* in raising our kids. I let my eldest listen to music and now she thinks Katy B is fantastic .... never let your kids listen to music unsupervised, it can damage your own hearing.

gamezombieghgh said:
The fact that it's detrimental to the kids health I'd say
And I agree with you 100%.

People saying it's bad for the kids health, she shouldn't have done it are right and thats a fair observation.

However.

If you read through some of the posts there are folks taking it a tad too far and acting as if she is the second coming of Satan. Talk about getting carried away.
 

FamoFunk

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Of course it's wrong, I wouldn't even give my 2 year-old a sip, never mind a full can.

Alas, not much you or anyone can do about it, though.
 

Da Orky Man

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lockecole21 said:
Da Orky Man said:
lockecole21 said:
Da Orky Man said:
Esotera said:
I remember a doctor saying that children under 12 should never be given caffeine, and this source seems to back it up: http://www.diethealthclub.com/caffeine/caffeine-and-children.html

Dehydration and an increased heart rate can't be good. It's definitely wrong, and if it's occurring regularly then it probably borders on neglect.
Although I completely agree with you, given that it affects the heart-rate of children much more because they simply have less blood, everyone make one mistake.
Energy drinks DON'T DEHYDRATE YOU!
Technically, the ingredients do, but at most of the drink is actually water. It hydrates you.

Part of my war against scientific ignorance.
sorry to burst your bubble but caffeine is a diuretic and in significant amounts does indeed dehydrate and can cause stomach issues.
First, I wasn't competing the fact that it does nasty stuff to your stomach, because yes, it does.
Second, water is also a diuretic. Caffeine is not at the strength needed to make you lose 250ml from 80mg of caffeine. Refer to my sources:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html?_r=1

http://journals.lww.com/acsm-essr/pages/articleviewer.aspxyear=2007&issue=07000&article=00008&type=abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19774754

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/559762_2

I'm very thorough when arguing.

What kind of significant amounts are you talking about? Most energy drinks have 120mg per litre.
wasn't arguing,but good to know,.anyway if a mother gives a child one red bull chances are she going to give them another and another.it doesn't take as much caffeine to dehydrate a child as it does an adult btw.
You speak of arguing like it's a bad thing. I love arguing. It's like a sport to me.
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing how much caffeine it takes to break-even with dehydration. Wikipedia time. Somehow, I know I'm going to end up on a page about some obscure sci-fi technology page.