It depends on what you mean by "support". If it were possible to produce such a vaccine I would not necessarily advocate researching it, but if the vaccine was already being manufactured it wouldn't bother me at all, since I wouldn't begrudge anyone who wanted to use it.
Would you support a cure for homosexuality and transexualism?
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It's funny how the X-men movies were all one giant metaphor for homosexuality/homophobia, and they had this whole cure thing in it too.
Now it's come full circle and people are discussing cures for actual homosexuality.
As for me, I wouldn't support forced vaccinations. I also wouldn't protest the cure itself. If someone, like Rogue, wants it for her/himself then by all means go for it, but you're a beautiful, lovely, splendid, perfect humanbeing no matter what!
Also, speaking for myself as a bisexual, I wouldn't want the cure. I like being able to dip into both sides of the pool.
Now it's come full circle and people are discussing cures for actual homosexuality.
As for me, I wouldn't support forced vaccinations. I also wouldn't protest the cure itself. If someone, like Rogue, wants it for her/himself then by all means go for it, but you're a beautiful, lovely, splendid, perfect humanbeing no matter what!
Also, speaking for myself as a bisexual, I wouldn't want the cure. I like being able to dip into both sides of the pool.
The way I see it, there's 7billion of us now, we don't need that many more, when we cant even feed and house a lot of people now. Also the gay community is do a great job of adopting or trying to, and it always good to give a kid a family and a home.
Sure, life and everything would be easier without homo- and transsexual issues that cloud the mind and darken the spirit.
Then again, I really think we should start out with putting some effort into weeding out teh stoopid.
Then again, I really think we should start out with putting some effort into weeding out teh stoopid.
Considering the OP's point was less "Cure teh gayz" and more "What if we could remove the possibility of homosexuality from infants before they're born?", I think you saw the thread title, flew into a rage and didn't bother to read further.wakeup said:
The OP brought up a theoretical scenario where a fetus could be "inoculated", for lack of a better word, against homosexuality and be guaranteed to be straight once born. It's not about rounding up all homosexuals and trans and sticking them with needles until they change their mind.
Oh boy, this is a doozy of a question. There's a great deal of moral imperatives at play here, and many ethical conundrums that would need to be solved before a satisfactory answer could ever be reached.Wraith said:
That said, right now, I would answer yes to the first and no to the second.
For the first, what it ultimately boils down to is a single question: "Is a child's 'natural' growth an acceptable sacrifice in the name of not meeting some perceived standard of 'normality'?"
And personally, I don't see anything wrong with that. I find the idea of the human template being inviolate patently ludicrous and think we should be going pretty much whole-hog into transhumanism and genetic engineering. Eliminating homosexuality from us as a species is no different than eliminating red hair, and with about the same societal impact in the grand scheme of things. There's definitely some moral concerns to be answered, insofar as who gets to define 'normal' and whatnot, but on the whole, I don't see there being an inherent problem with the act itself.
Now, all of that said, I do take issue with the government attempting to force a certain standard. It should only happen when the involved parties (in this case, the parents) willingly choose to do so.
No, they are not diseases, but many experts suspect that homosexuality might be caused by something known as epimarkers that mark the sexuality of the fetus as the same as the opposite sex parent. Also, it is suspected that trans-persons are created by the body and the mind going in two separate directions during the gestation process(the body of a man and the mind of a woman and viceversa).Johnny Novgorod said:
If it was possible to prevent these things from happening during pregnancy, I would be all for it as living as a homosexual or transperson is a fucking nightmare and if we could spare even just one person that torment, I find it would be worth it.
I see nothing horrid about trying to save someone from a life of bullshit if we could fix the problem before they were even born.
As much as I would support a "cure" for being black or having two arms or any other state of being.
No.
What a horrible thing to even consider. Jeezus!
No.
What a horrible thing to even consider. Jeezus!
Homosexuality? No.
Transgenderism? Yes. A condition that causes individuals to seek to mutilate their genitalia in order to feel "whole" is not something beneficial.
Transgenderism? Yes. A condition that causes individuals to seek to mutilate their genitalia in order to feel "whole" is not something beneficial.
i dont find living as a gay a nightmare, sure it has times where it can bring you down but i see myself as a stronger person by having to deal with it. im perfectly happy about who i am. whats horrid is that the person wouldn't get to choose for themself. i think i need to ask the question of why we need to get rid of homosexuals, as if its a inherently bad thing.t00bz said:
Did you ever watch the X-men cartoon? Have you studied history at all? Are you aware of the repercussions of people even thinking things that are social issues are birth defects, as shown by some of the most ghastly periods of our species?
The answer is no. And even discussing it, to be honest, makes me feel like I need a shower for my mind.
And the comparison between homosexuality and pedophiles has already reared its ugly head... ugh. Leaving now.
The answer is no. And even discussing it, to be honest, makes me feel like I need a shower for my mind.
And the comparison between homosexuality and pedophiles has already reared its ugly head... ugh. Leaving now.
I rather think it's be way better if we were all bisexual. Imagine a world where we are inhibited by a person as a whole rather than gender restricted. A world where it didn't matter what a person was, love was love.
That said I'm completely straight, no interest in men whatsoever. Plenty of men have approached me, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least flattered by it. They obvious physical hurdle is insurmountable though, so alas I remain single.
I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality. Transgenderism is a completely different issue imo.
That said I'm completely straight, no interest in men whatsoever. Plenty of men have approached me, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least flattered by it. They obvious physical hurdle is insurmountable though, so alas I remain single.
I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality. Transgenderism is a completely different issue imo.
Hell no. Not only does it do no harm, homosexuality is actively a good thing since the world is overpopulated as it is, and gay couples can't produce children. Meaning also that if they do want children they're likely to adopt, and there are plenty of orphaned kids in the world who'd be helped by that.
So no, even if it could be 'cured', I think it'd be very stupid to do so. We cure diseases because they have negative effects, not just because they vary from the norm. Gay people are if anything a good thing for the world.
So no, even if it could be 'cured', I think it'd be very stupid to do so. We cure diseases because they have negative effects, not just because they vary from the norm. Gay people are if anything a good thing for the world.
I think even entertaining this as a thought is hiding behind something because you realize the real opinions are not going to be popular. Neither homosexuality or transexuality are diseases, and I honestly cannot understand why all this fuss must be kicked up daily by one person or another about who or what another person likes sexually. Is there any way these sexualities harm anyone? No. There's a great deal of misconception and some incredibly weird belief that homosexuality weakens the fabric of... What? Marriage? The only ways it could are if the marriage was weak to begin with. Of course, there are ancient, fictional books that billions of people believe in that say homosexuality is wrong because of reasons and a nonexistent someone in the sky.Wraith said:
To me, this is like asking if I would support a cure for dancing.
I don't see dancing as a disease. I don't really dance, but I've got nothing against it. I know quite a few people who seem to love dancing.
so no, I wouldn't support a "cure." In fact, I would look askance at the people proposing surgical or chemical procedures to limit dancing. Noooo thanks.
I don't see dancing as a disease. I don't really dance, but I've got nothing against it. I know quite a few people who seem to love dancing.
so no, I wouldn't support a "cure." In fact, I would look askance at the people proposing surgical or chemical procedures to limit dancing. Noooo thanks.
Given the fact that there have been gay people and transsexuals throughout time, they made their own subset of culture and have needs and feelings like other people. I would say even if they found a so-called 'cure' I would be against it, when people have been around this long without being a huge life-threatening disease, I call them natural born humans with thoughts and feelings.