Would you support a cure for homosexuality and transexualism?

[BlackStar42]

It's not a disease, ergo there is nothing to "cure". You may as well try curing left-handedness.

 

[Syzygy23]

There is GREAT debate between certain groups on whether homosexuality could be the result of a complication during pregnancy, if it is just a natural occurrence or-- the most scrutinized of arguments-- it's a conscious choice. The same arguments have been applied when discussing transexuality and its effects on the person (though, most agree it is a complication during pregnancy).

Now with all this arguing going on, it seems to me no one is really asking a really big question. Let's say both homosexuality and transexuality were proven to be created through certain developments in the womb and let's say both of these could be cured with a needle injection given to the mother within the first few months of pregnancy.

Would you support this cure?

Would you accept a law your government made so that every woman who became pregnant would need to get this vaccination?

EDIT: Admittedly, I fucked up when I used "cure". I did not consider the implications it could have, which is a bad habit of mine. So please, if I offended you-- which by looking at the comments I obviously did-- I am sorry.

I wanted it to come across as a 'what if scientists discovered homo and transsexuality was caused through an abnormal change during pregnancy and could be stopped before the child was born?' type of scenario. I did not mean for it to imply that I think homosexuals and transsexuals should be "cured" of their "disease".

I don't really see the need to apologize here. When you cure someone of an affliction, you're basically doing the chemical equivalent of restoring that person to the default human setting. Hetero is default, thems the brakes, whether anyone likes it or not.

However, I think you missed the OTHER big question here: If we know how to revert someone to default factory human setting from homo/trans setting, wouldn't we then also know how to change a default hetero to a trans/homosexual?

Just think: a world where sexuality truly is beyond a shadow of a doubt, a choice. Seeing as the switch would be impermanent, it would no longer be a big deal. It would be like getting a tattoo or an earring; If your parents find it ugly or disagree with it, instead of being disowned and tormented, you could just switch teams until such a time that you could switch back, if you so choose.

Now THERE'S a world I wouldn't mind living in.

 

[Something Amyss]

in a better world gender or sexuality wouldnt matter so much and we could shape our bodies, the vessels we inhabit freely after or likes.
then nothing would need a cure and we would all be free.

Transsexuality, by its very nature, seeks a cure or treatment. As others have said before me, that's what HRT and SRS are.

Transsexuals, by our nature, suffer. It isn't really different from a harmful birth defect except in the way we tend to suffer. It's like depression, where people often can't see physical signs of something being wrong and dismiss it. We treat depression, and we'd cure it if we could.

A prenatal "cure" literally removes the problem.

I would support it for people over 18 getting it out of their free will, but I wouldn't support pregnant woman getting it. I'd see it as a bigger plus for trans people than gays since their struggle seems more of a problem. If they could change their gender to match their sex rather than the opposite would they prefer that solution? No hormones or worrying if they can pull off the look, or surgery and they'll still be able to have functional plumbing and feel comfortable in their body.

Wait, what? You yourself treat transsexuality like a defect, but you wouldn't want a prenatal cure for it?

I...

They aren't diseases. Therefore you can't "cure" them. That's all I have have to say, and all I feel I need to say.

One is a disorder. A disorder that I think most people with it would be glad to be rid of.

It would be good for transexuality as it would be allow trans people to feel sexually correct without invasive surgery.

The question is, would it alter who we are.

There's a reason prenatal "treatment" sounds more viable to me: Once you already have a fully-formed person whose brain disagrees with their body, it seems unlikely that this would leave them unchanged. Unless we're talking a medication constantly administered to force a sense of self on someone. The brain is already developed and rerouting it is sci-fi enough to begin with. Adding on top of that that the way we address the world may be impacted, who we are? Yeah, seems kind of monstrous.

Screening or "curing" people before they're even wired is one thing. Trying to fuck with the wiring after the fact? That's wrong.

 

[Astoria]

I would support it if the person could chose to be cured or not. If it was forced on them then definitely not. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be normal.

 

[Jacco]

There is GREAT debate between certain groups on whether homosexuality could be the result of a complication during pregnancy, if it is just a natural occurrence or-- the most scrutinized of arguments-- it's a conscious choice. The same arguments have been applied when discussing transexuality and its effects on the person (though, most agree it is a complication during pregnancy).

Now with all this arguing going on, it seems to me no one is really asking a really big question. Let's say both homosexuality and transexuality were proven to be created through certain developments in the womb and let's say both of these could be cured with a needle injection given to the mother within the first few months of pregnancy.

Would you support this cure?

Would you accept a law your government made so that every woman who became pregnant would need to get this vaccination?

EDIT: Admittedly, I fucked up when I used "cure". I did not consider the implications it could have, which is a bad habit of mine. So please, if I offended you-- which by looking at the comments I obviously did-- I am sorry.

I wanted it to come across as a 'what if scientists discovered homo and transsexuality was caused through an abnormal change during pregnancy and could be stopped before the child was born?' type of scenario. I did not mean for it to imply that I think homosexuals and transsexuals should be "cured" of their "disease".

It never ceases to amaze me how limited people's attention spans can be. Most of these replies are from people who didn't even read your question. Asinine.

For the sake of argument, let's go ahead and say that someone finds a "gay gene" and develops a therapy for it.

I would be in support of it for three reasons:

1. Finding a gene for homosexuality would put it in the same category of "defect" as any number of genetic disorders we treat, specifically autism. The people who disagree with this statement are doing so out of a blind rejection of everything "problematic" with homosexuality.

2. If it were able to be treated in the womb, then that indicates that there is no "choice factor" in homosexuality and as such, the treatment is one of prevention. It would be no different from performing an abortion.

3. It would stop much of the social ill's that are caused to people by being homosexual such as someone gay growing up and being ostracized by their religious family/friends/etc. They would be able to live what they deem a "normal" life, free of the burden that would place on them.

 

[Jacco]

I would support it if the person could chose to be cured or not. If it was forced on them then definitely not. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be normal.

His question was that if it were in the womb, would you be for it. In essence, he's asking if you think it's moral to choose for someone else what their sexuality will be. And it's a valid question. How is choosing someone's sexuality before they are born different from choosing weather to abort a pregnancy?

 

[Something Amyss]

It was meant to be an example of just because something isn't affecting you then it doesn't mean you shouldn't have an opinion or not care.

The idea of giving an example is that it's some way representative. Next time, you should try coming up with an example that works.

It's not a disease, ergo there is nothing to "cure". You may as well try curing left-handedness.

Homosexuality maybe, but keep in mind we already try and treat and cure transsexuals. It's called HRT and SRS.

 

[WickedFire]

I honestly consider Bi polar dis order is something the medical community made up
as a means to builk patients out of money.

Sorry to hijack the thread for a moment, but seriously. Fuck. You need to find out what Bipolar actually is.

It is not "oh I'm happy, oh now I'm sad."

Imagine going from truly believing "I am awesome, I am better than everyone else", to "I am the most worthless piece of human trash in the history of the Earth, I should kill myself". In the space of a day or two. That is how quickly it can turn. With each phase lasting for potentially months.

Granted, there can be misdiagnosis. But then you consider the numbers, that 20% of people with bipolar, that's 1 in 5 people who suffer from it, kill themselves.

To claim that it is made up is callous, and downright disgusting. It may not be fully understood, but to disregard it, based on that. That makes one a truly awful human being.

OT: As for the topic at hand, I do not see homosexuality in the same league as Bipolar disorder. To claim that Homosexuality is a disorder, is to claim that love itself is a disorder. I frankly don't care who you are attracted to. Myself, I am hetero, but if a gay man came up to me and was interested, I would never suggest a cure or claim that they are devil-spawn. I would politely inform them that I am not inclined in that way, but would however enjoy becoming a friend, because homosexuals are some of the nicest people I have ever met.

 

[ninjaRiv]

Because NameIsRobertPaulson they have a different sexual orientation to mine. Its that simple and as good a reason as any.

The following is not meant as an attack but a genuine point/question.

How would you feel about a cure for intolerance? If you could volunteer for an injection that makes you not disgusted by homosexuals and transgendered people, would you take it?

 

[carnex]

I just remebered one pill that would sell like crazy. You take it and froget what you have read in some internet forum!

 

[rednose1]

Been back and forth on this one, gotta admit. I would say I'd be fine with it, as long as it wasn't forced on anyone, and was someone's choice, but you KNOW parents would get this "cure" for their kids before they're able to make the choice themselves.

Then again, pure research is always neutral, and by looking into some kind of cure they may find a cure for every disease known to man, forever! (and a pre-emptive statement: Not saying being gay is a disease, just that....momma always said life is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you're gonnna get).

 

[DyqstARD]

If you were to scrap it making homosexuality/transexualism seem like 'diseases'. I suppose it could 'cure' a whole lot of conflict, if there was say a memory wipe involved.

 

[James Rednok]

Yes, and wholeheartedly. Being gay is perhaps the most prominent part of my self loathing. Plus it's just damn frustrating knowing that however much I may love the woman I marry, I will never be "in love" with her or be attracted to her. I'd love nothing more than to be cured. And no, I take no offense at your use of the word "cure". I believe that my homosexuality IS some sort of defect/disorder. Just like my OCD, just like depression, just like my intelligence, just like my torrid love affair with Italian food, it's just part of my genetic make up and something I can't do anything about and that I sadly "just have to live with".

 

[Bluestorm83]

Hmmm. This is an interesting proposition. While I am a Christian and do think that homosexual ACTS are unnatural and wrong, no, I would not support a so-called "Cure." See, we're ALL broken in some sort of way. EVERYONE is made up of things unnatural and wrong, not just the homosexuals out there. All the stuff I think about ladies who are not currently my wife is exactly 100% as wrong as the things that a dude might do with another dude. Isn't that great, in a way?

The straightest, nicest, humblest, most self-sacrificing and seemingly "holy" man is still a broken sinner, just like everyone else. I don't know WHY homosexuals are homosexual. Maybe it's so they can understand some aspect of something that I'm not supposed to. Maybe it's because everyone has to be persecuted for something. I genuinely don't know. But there's some purpose to it. So who am I to try and take away someone else's burden? Burdens make people stronger.

 

[irok]

No but I wouldn't support a cure for ignorance either, that's also a choice.

 

[Lorpo]

Because NameIsRobertPaulson they have a different sexual orientation to mine. Its that simple and as good a reason as any.

The following is not meant as an attack but a genuine point/question.

How would you feel about a cure for intolerance? If you could volunteer for an injection that makes you not disgusted by homosexuals and transgendered people, would you take it?

I cant see why not. It would be a cure to the problem, it wouldn't get rid of homosexuals and transgender but then I wouldnt care about them.

 

[Something Amyss]

I just remebered one pill that would sell like crazy. You take it and froget what you have read in some internet forum!

I'd OD in a day. Seriously, there's so much I wish I could forget.

No but I wouldn't support a cure for ignorance either, that's also a choice.

I don't know...Ignorance seems to be pretty natural.

 

[noobium]

For there to be a need for a "cure" there first has to be some sort of ailment or disease. Homosexuality is neither a disease or a choice.