WoW gamers

[GenHellspawn]

Is it just me, or does everyone notice that when you say that you play WoW, people tell you that you have no life and insult you. I don't know why do they do it. I mean, I know there are no life WoW gamers that kill themselves for stupid things, but why does everyone that plays WoW have to be sorted in the no life "group"?

Sometimes, people think that because you can level faster or are better than them at PvP, they think you have much more time vested in the game, rather than simply being more skilled at it.

 

[OverlordSteve]

When I played Wow, it actually helped me stay in touch with my friends, because we weren't into racking up our parent's phone bills a whole hell of a lot. WoW was like instant messaging with monsters.

Spoiler: Off topic

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[Zrahni]

I think wow haters are jealous of wow players being capable of enjoying team goals, and socializing, thats why there is so much hate on wow. Most of them haven't even really played wow
until it get actually interesting. If you hate on wow high end players then you should also hate on starcraft, counter-strike, diablo 2, lineage, Warhammer and soon Left 4 dead. Cos all these games are based around team goals, clans (guilds) and socializing only difference is that WoW is way bigger.

 

[zirnitra]

I really do have a vendetta against MMORPG gamers WOW especially, I admit it. I do think they have no life but then you go into the philosophical realms on what is life and all that. there is a good amount of evidence that supports my view (as well as a good amount against it).

the majority of WOW gamers are 10-25 supposedly the peak time of your life, when you are on your death bed reflecting on the choices you made, you will regret not spending more time experiencing things in the real world.

Because the real world is great right?
Environmental/economical/cultural crisis, heck we get 3 of them at once! Awesome!

oh, yeah shit I forgot. sometimes things get real in the real world don't they? yeah let's just give a massive corporation all of are money so we can sit in our pants all day, pretending we're mining by endlessly clicking a mouse button thinking "I'm not enjoying this but I should be able to buy that new armour, so I can click on a monster that would of previously killed me but won't this time so I can level up to wear that new armour and go to the mine to pay for it"-repeated for all eternity instead of going to parties, playing games that actually are really stimulating but don't eat up so much of your life that there's been a rehab made for it. and just deal with any problems the world may be facing instead of just surrendering to a world of make believe.

You're a real gangsta holmes.

I could start a philosophical debate of such proportions that even Aristotle himself would start rolling in his grave,
but i won't because I'm god damned lazy.

So I'll just say this. Games are games kids.

It's electronic stimulation designed to keep your little mind entertained from other monotonous tasks.
Don't try to separate them because the time you spend playing a mmorpg that could be spent on something more
productive is the exact same time you spend playing one of those mainstream games.


(Btw i hate WoW and i played it for a year, but it's fun to play the devils advocate!)

I really do have a vendetta against MMORPG gamers WOW especially, I admit it. I do think they have no life but then you go into the philosophical realms on what is life and all that. there is a good amount of evidence that supports my view (as well as a good amount against it).

the majority of WOW gamers are 10-25 supposedly the peak time of your life, when you are on your death bed reflecting on the choices you made, you will regret not spending more time experiencing things in the real world.

Because the real world is great right?
Environmental/economical/cultural crisis, heck we get 3 of them at once! Awesome!

oh, yeah shit I forgot. sometimes things get real in the real world don't they? yeah let's just give a massive corporation all of are money so we can sit in our pants all day, pretending we're mining by endlessly clicking a mouse button thinking "I'm not enjoying this but I should be able to buy that new armour, so I can click on a monster that would of previously killed me but won't this time so I can level up to wear that new armour and go to the mine to pay for it"-repeated for all eternity instead of going to parties, playing games that actually are really stimulating but don't eat up so much of your life that there's been a rehab made for it. and just deal with any problems the world may be facing instead of just surrendering to a world of make believe.

XD

You made me choke on my Dr.Pepper! Anyway...opinion is as opinion is, but, you've intrigued me sir! You seem to hold an odd, dare I say hate, for the game. Care to elaborate on why? I mean, it'd be interesting to know about the reasons for your ire? Has World of Warcraft made such a deep and negative impact on you, that you see it as some kind of threat to your, nay, the very existence of humanity!?


Joking aside, different strokes for different folks, accept that as you will or not. Your frown won't turn my smile upside down, so cool it yeah?

after my foolish little rage fuelled incoherent little...tiff. I think I should explain my vendetta a little bit, I was addicted to a mmorpg for three years and then I stopped, and I've been jolly ticked off with wasting those three years ever since. the same sort of way ex-bulimics would have something against the fashion industry. well I say that I don't even know if I have that much against blizzard. I just had a sudden bought of anger. Goether way I'm going to bed Good night all

 

[Gotham Soul]

I'm a proud WoW player; have been since release. Most people would say that playing WoW since beta is not the best thing to be proud of, but I stopped caring what other people thought around the time people in my high school started committing suicide over bitchy girls in which case my once-universal phrase for those situations i.e. "Who's the no-life now you insecure co-dependent cunts" ceases to be able to express the degree of hypocrisy that seemed to infect every square inch of my community.

I don't see how talking to people over the Internet makes one seem like they have no social life. Just because you can't actually see the person, or just because you use a different means of communication when face-to-face isn't available, means they can't be your friend? Should I start labeling everyone who talks on the phone as no-life sociopaths? They're not talking face-to-face. How should the Internet with its VoIP, whether it be Ventrilo, Skype, or Teamspeak, be any different?

What I find infuriatingly ironic is that people who play single-player video games are considered to have more of a life than people who play online video games, video games that require you to interact with other people in order to succeed. If I say "I play Oblivion" or "I play Assassin's Creed" then nobody really cares. As soon as I pop out the phrase "I play WoW" I'm transformed into a social reject before I get to finish the next sentence.

But it doesn't really matter to me anymore. I'd have a better chance of causing the Earth to revolve backwards than change the public opinion of a wholly ignorant society. Call me a snarky antisocial jackass for having just wasted maybe thirty seconds to a minute (depending on your reading speed and also depending on whether or not you, the reader, give a shit) of your time spent reading this anti-prejudice statement.

I know I'm going to get mail over this one.

 

[zen5887]

I used to play it but I had to stop cos I was poor. I was never addicted, I would jump on for a few hours a night, hopping off whenever someone I wanted to talk to on msn came online. I don't believe the 'loser' sterotype that follows WoW-ers mainly because I know enough of them who do other stuff to know its not true. The ep of southpark really added fuel to the fire, so many people take that show way to seriously so when they see fat greasy wow gamers they think thats what its all about.

Believe it or not you CAN play WoW and have an outside life at the same time..

 

[Ultrajoe]

I know plenty of very social, very good WoW players.

I quit, personally, but i had a lot of fun when i played and laugh at those who make such witty lines as 'World of Warcrap/Warcrack, hur hur". I had fun and got my moneys worth, i consider myself a winner in that regard. Like enjoying shitty movies or laughing at bad jokes, im the one getting what i paid for or having the most fun.

In the end, it comes down to generalization. People see the loser WoW players and make the (incorrect) assumption that all of them must be like that.

Generalization has been my foe for years, i fight him each and every day. He is cunning and swift, and a lie can get halfway around the world before the truth has got it's boots on.

 

[insectoid]

I don't see how talking to people over the Internet makes one seem like they have no social life. Just because you can't actually see the person, or just because you use a different means of communication when face-to-face isn't available, means they can't be your friend? Should I start labeling everyone who talks on the phone as no-life sociopaths? They're not talking face-to-face. How should the Internet with its VoIP, whether it be Ventrilo, Skype, or Teamspeak, be any different?

What I find infuriatingly ironic is that people who play single-player video games are considered to have more of a life than people who play online video games, video games that require you to interact with other people in order to succeed. If I say "I play Oblivion" or "I play Assassin's Creed" then nobody really cares. As soon as I pop out the phrase "I play WoW" I'm transformed into a social reject before I get to finish the next sentence.

I agree with everything you said.

I don't see why the general consensus should be that instant messaging programs are antisocial, whereas any other communicative device is not.

Single player games are arguably more antisocial than multiplayer, so it just doesn't make sense.

But, at my school if you play Oblivion you are seen to have no life.

 

[broadband]

i played it until y hitted lvl 40 and something, (and played matrix online for year and want to go back)

honestly WoW isnt such a bad game, its just matter of self-control, i also think that if they could work in a couple of details, like the time system and lack of comunicacion alliance/horde, it could end like a really good game.

 

[milomalo]

Is it just me, or does everyone notice that when you say that you play WoW, people tell you that you have no life and insult you. I don't know why do they do it. I mean, I know there are no life WoW gamers that kill themselves for stupid things, but why does everyone that plays WoW have to be sorted in the no life "group"?

dude i just have to say it... i love your avatar XD

 

[Restoshamankk]

People call me no-life, might some sort of truth there but ye, it's not always funny to explain that you DO have a life, then again I play 5+ hours a day so not that much of a life there but I still have a lot of friends and manage to get my job done (School, etc)

 

[ianuam]

Addiction is there, as many previous posters have admitted. I'll add a QFT for 'People like to stereotype', however, because i've experienced it myself (2 years played, quit 3 months ago.).

Saying that, a large percent of the people i raided with end game wise, and that i knew on the server generally, didn't play 15hours a day, they'd log in, raid, do dailies, log out - live in the outside world and repeat whenever there was a raid on. Others who didn't raid tended, perversely to play more frequently than those at end game level.

 

[LewsTherin]

Actually check out this study. You can stuff it in the face of people who say gamers have no lives.

Spoiler

Study squashes myth of gamer as antisocial Comic Book Guy

Gaming has long been the domain of nerds and geeks. For many years, gamers were painted as ostracized, antisocial, self-loathing recluses who were incapable of making meaningful human contact, instead delving deep into imaginary digital worlds to escape reality. But that stereotype is quickly changing as more and more people start to game, and a new study goes as far as claiming that gamers are "more social, more active, and more valuable as consumers" than non-gamers.

Together with IGN Entertainment, Ipsos MediaCT published the study entitled "Are You Game?". The work draws results from a two-phase study which began with a quantitative overview of gaming earlier this year in US households and then more intimate, qualitative, person-by-person research through means such as focus groups and in-home interviews in the Los Angeles area.

To tackle the study, the research team first had to define what a gamer was. The team broke gamers apart into a number of different labelled groups, including the likes of "Traditional Core" and "Weekend Warriors" to more modern collectives such as "Family 3.0," which embodies the connected families that game casually together, and "Social Troopers," which covers those who game for social stimulus and seek out others to play with in all circumstances.

Here are some of noteworthy findings of the study:

* 55 percent of gamers polled were married, 48 percent have kids, and new gamers ? those who have started playing videogames in the past two years?are 32 years old on average
* More than 75 percent of videogamers play games with other people either online or in person
* More than 47 percent of people living in gaming households saying that videogames were a fun way to interact with other family members
* 37 percent of gamers said friends and family relied upon them to stay up-to-date about movies, TV shows and the latest entertainment news, compared to only 22 percent for nongamers
* 39 percent of gamers said that friends and family rely upon them to stay up-to-date about the latest technology
* In terms of hard dollars, the average gaming household income ($79,000) is notably higher than that of nongaming households ($54,000), but the value of the gamer as a marketing target can be seen in a variety of ways
* Gamers are 13 percent more likely to go out to a movie, 11 percent more likely to play sports, and 9 percent more likely to go out with friends than nongamers
* Gamers are twice as likely as nongamers to buy a product featuring new technology even if they are aware that there are still bugs
* Gamers are also twice as likely as nongamers to pay a premium for the newest technology on the market
* Gamers also consume media in different ways than nongamers, with hardcore gamers spending five more hours on the Internet, two more hours watching television and two more hours listening to music than nongamers per week

And the counterintuitive kicker:

* Gamers are twice as likely to go out on dates as nongamers in a given month

"Based on the research, it's obvious that the gaming market has outgrown many commonly held stereotypes about the relative homogeneity of video gamers," said Adam Wright, Director of Research for Ipsos MediaCT. "Today's gamers represent a wide variety of demographic groups: men and women, kids, parents and grandparents, younger and older consumers. All this underscores the fact that gaming has become a mainstream medium in this country that appeals to people from all walks of life."

Many would contend that the stereotype that gamers are shut-ins has become archaic these days and Ipsos' study demonstrates admirably that the times are changing (well, except for MMO players. We kid.) While the survey was of course paid for by a company that primarily prospers from video games in IGN, and a few of the stats (particularly those with regard to income) are questionable, there's no question that gaming has very much become more a social activity than a solitary one.

The majority of games today ship with some form of multiplayer, and games without a multiplayer element often sell poorly?even when the game is extremely good otherwise. With cooperative gaming and online multiplayer on the rise, this is a trend that doesn't seem to be wavering, either. That said, when chatting someone up at the club, it's probably best to save boasts about your epic mount for later.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081022-study-squashes-myth-of-gamer-as-antisocial-comic-book-guy.html

That's because we gamers know how to properly grind stats.