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Loonyyy

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Your post mostly retreads the news stories printed on the escapist recently, which is kind of pointless. The stuff about GameStop being a poor employer is now common knowledge.

Much more interesting is the other stuff. They do criminal record checks? You know, like nearly all big employers? Most businesses actively discriminate against convicted felons, even after they've served their debt to society. It's just the way things go, it's not nice, but it's hardly unique. It's a widespread, and rather unfortunate practice.

I worked at a McDonalds for a while, and the conditions there weren't great either. But the thing is, if you don't like the conditions, you can always leave. If you think their decisions are illegal, then you can contact a lawyer, the union, the police, or similar. They exist to make money, and in doing so, they'll be as ruthless as they can get away with.

This doesn't really seem to have an endgame in mind: Are you trying to say that *gasp* GameStop has some less than savoury business practices? Are you trying to incite a boycott? Do you want to gather people for a class action lawsuit? Because I just don't see the use in collecting a bunch of annoyed employees or ex-employees for no reason.
Then again, I did just comment on your post.
 

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unionize!

Call up the local teamsters and ask some questions about unionizing your workplace. Do it in secret, because until you actually are union, they might fire you just on the suspicion of what you are up to (not that they'll say that).

Once you are union, you are protected, they can only fire you for specific reasons that you know about in advance, you uphold your end of the contract and you are solid. And if there are violations, and you are too scared to be the bad guy you can have your union rep be the bad guy for you.

check out osha.gov, you have all sorts of rights required by law, not just by contract(breaks/lunches/safety adherance/etc...). And if you have to work off the clock or aren't getting breaks, the IRS might be interested too, because they get a chunk of your pay in taxes and so by denying you pay they are also denying the IRS some of their taxes. And many states have state equivalents of OSHA that are even more stringent. And don't be scared about reporting violations, there are protections for whistleblowers: http://www.whistleblowers.gov/index.html

and if you don't know if something is illegal, use the internet, or call your local law school and see if they have a free legal clinic.

document everything that happens to you and coworkers that is overboard, so if it does become an issue at some point you can go back and say specifically what was done and when.

a corporation isn't embodied by a living person. they hire someone, usually many people, professionals in their fields, to represent their interest and draw up employment contracts and create hiring policies. Its only fair that employees should also be allowed to hire someone w/greater knowledge about contracts and labor practices to represent them when hammering out an employment contract, to form a union. To do otherwise would be to deny employees a right that companies have, something many companies have been trying to do for ages. So again, unionize, you won't just be helping yourself, but your co-workers and future workers long after you are gone.
 

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Yeah so? If the employees really mind they wouldn't work for gamestop . Either that or they would sue them . If the employees are not aware of these laws , then it's their own fault , ignorance is not an excuse . Say what you want about gamestop but , it's the employees fault for not contestig this or working for them. I blame gamestop for nothing.
Maybe so, but I'm willing to bet a lot of these people stayed because it's not exactly easy to find a job nowadays. It's not like if they leave they can hop right into another one. Especially in retail which is entry level.
 

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Jitters Caffeine said:
In the last few days, I have heard about and subsequently researched horrible things Gamestop has been accused of doing. Now I'm not talking about whether or not the "used games market" is stealing money from publishers, I'm just talking about business practices of the stores themselves. But from what I hear, Gamestop is guilty of acts that are LITERALLY illegal in the state of California, such as not giving employees breaks, forced searches on employees before their lunches and at the ends of shifts, and damn near stealing money from employees with something called a "Comdata" card that the store signs you up for when you're hired. It was also brought to my attention that in some, not all, that employees actually run criminal record scans on customers without notification. Even the police at least TELL you that their doing it. Now this is FAR from everything that I've been told, but I would really like to know if anyone else had heard anything like this. I would especially like it if current or former Gamestop employees would speak up, because those people would have been on the front lines so to speak.

Now I have no idea how "up to date" my information is, but I will be glad to link the videos I was shown that really bothered me.

Please do not misunderstand me. I fully supported and even defended Gamestop until just recently, so this isn't just some "I hate how they steal money from publishers" thing. I am speaking on Gamestop's apparent treatment of employees as expendable numbers that can be replaced in an instant, and customers as walking sacks with dollar signs on them ripe for the pillaging. I am genuinely interested in any information people have about their experiences.
Honestly most all that is fairly common practice for large national retail/hospitality chains. Employee abuse is so mainstream that no-one even bothers to talk about it anymore. Not to mention the fact that entry level employees are egregiously under-compensated for the amount of stress they are put under.

I worked for a mom and pop store in high school, but since then i've worked until recently for a couple big national chains. I can tell you that my 2 years working for Chipotle were the worst 2 years of my life.
 

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Yeah so? If the employees really mind they wouldn't work for gamestop . Either that or they would sue them . If the employees are not aware of these laws , then it's their own fault , ignorance is not an excuse . Say what you want about gamestop but , it's the employees fault for not contestig this or working for them. I blame gamestop for nothing.
You've obviously never worked at one of those kinds of jobs. For people without many marketable skills (ie. the type of people who work at gamestop) new employment is ridiculously hard to find, even moreso if you aren't currently employed. I've seen people fired because the management heard they were looking for new employment. For the working poor, we can't risk extended periods of unemployment. Unionization isn't an option either. Walmart for example trains their managers specifically on how to spot unionization efforts and fire the offending employees. Sure its illegal, but what is a impoverished unemployed person with mouths to feed going to do about it. They know that we're going to spend all our time looking for new work rather than pursuing costly and years-long legal action against them. So they act with impunity. The regulatory structure in this country -where it exists at all- is purely reactive. There's no policing to protect people from their employers before its too late.
 

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There is nothing wrong with searching the employes. They are a Industry of small valuable things. It is Right to search them, But it had better be in the Employe handbook.
But everything else.. Damn, Like Jakko, Id like a Reputable source for it... Wow.
The problem is the searches need to be on company time, not on your personal time.
 

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I wonder if the "former" Gamestop employees have an axe to grind. Working retail sucks, and means that sometimes you have to submit to searches before leaving the work area. It's no different than working in a casino where every woman has a clear plastic purse, and your pockets are sewn shut so you can't stuff money in your clothes.

If there was any truth to the above accusations, I'm sure that the competent authorities would step in and investigate. Especially in California.
 

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Jitters Caffeine said:
AuronFtw said:
Is the Comdata thing just a place where they dump payments in lieu of a personal bank account?

That sounds kinda fishy, wouldn't they just had checks out instead?
From the way it was explained to me by former employees, it is EXACTLY that. They sign you up for an account with Comdata if you do not already have a checking account with a bank when you're hired. But the biggest gripe I heard was that it charges you every time you swipe your card, whether or not you were making a purchase or not. You could have cancelled the purchase or even just have checked your balance, BOOM it charges you.
A LOT of cards actually do that. I know that when I was going to school at a certain college their Student ID was a credit card. You had all of your meal plan money on it. ALSO you could put real money on it through a bank known as Higher One. Well if you swiped the card at ANY bank other than the Higher One ATMs which were located in the lobbies of all their buildings. You would be charged. Be it checking your balance or taking out money. Things like charging for card use actually isn't that bad if you think about it. I mean if you do ANY transactions at some ATM machines that are not your bank here in the US you get charged their fee which can range from .50 to $5
 

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Jitters Caffeine said:
Satsuki666 said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
From what I hear, there's a good chance that they HAD enough coming in, but they had employees and Managers call "dibs" on systems during the first shipment. I understand it happens quite a bit. So much that customers can't pick up new games because employees have squirreled away copies for themselves.
Well that does make sense. I mean when there is only going to be a limited supply and its a first come first serve it only makes sense that the guy who works there would pick up his copy first since he would be the first to pay for it. Just because they work there does not mean they are not allowed to buy anything from the store.
But this is when their SUPPOSED to be filling preorders made by customers who have paid their games in full, then can't pick it up because they're holding them for themselves.
What happens if said employee preorders and pays in full before a lot of other people? Does that still make it wrong for him to pick up his preorder on launch day before anyone else simply because he works there?
 

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Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Satsuki666 said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
From what I hear, there's a good chance that they HAD enough coming in, but they had employees and Managers call "dibs" on systems during the first shipment. I understand it happens quite a bit. So much that customers can't pick up new games because employees have squirreled away copies for themselves.
Well that does make sense. I mean when there is only going to be a limited supply and its a first come first serve it only makes sense that the guy who works there would pick up his copy first since he would be the first to pay for it. Just because they work there does not mean they are not allowed to buy anything from the store.
But this is when their SUPPOSED to be filling preorders made by customers who have paid their games in full, then can't pick it up because they're holding them for themselves.
What happens if said employee preorders and pays in full before a lot of other people? Does that still make it wrong for him to pick up his preorder on launch day before anyone else simply because he works there?
Well now you're arguing with hypotheticals. I'm saying that holding copies of games or new consoles when customers are WAITING for the product they paid for isn't right. Most places don't let employees take sought after merchandise like REALLY popular games like at Gamestop or maybe even TVs at a place like where I work until after a certain amount of time has passed. I'm saying SPECIFICALLY that employees squirreling away games and consoles when they have customers WAITING is simply wrong.
 

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Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Satsuki666 said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
From what I hear, there's a good chance that they HAD enough coming in, but they had employees and Managers call "dibs" on systems during the first shipment. I understand it happens quite a bit. So much that customers can't pick up new games because employees have squirreled away copies for themselves.
Well that does make sense. I mean when there is only going to be a limited supply and its a first come first serve it only makes sense that the guy who works there would pick up his copy first since he would be the first to pay for it. Just because they work there does not mean they are not allowed to buy anything from the store.
But this is when their SUPPOSED to be filling preorders made by customers who have paid their games in full, then can't pick it up because they're holding them for themselves.
What happens if said employee preorders and pays in full before a lot of other people? Does that still make it wrong for him to pick up his preorder on launch day before anyone else simply because he works there?
Well now you're arguing with hypotheticals. I'm saying that holding copies of games or new consoles when customers are WAITING for the product they paid for isn't right. Most places don't let employees take sought after merchandise like REALLY popular games like at Gamestop or maybe even TVs at a place like where I work until after a certain amount of time has passed. I'm saying SPECIFICALLY that employees squirreling away games and consoles when they have customers WAITING is simply wrong.
The funny thing is that you are saying that I am arguing Hypotheticals while you yourself are also arguing hypotheticals. Yes it does happen SOMETIMES but so does mine. Its actually well within the rights of the places to do. I mean it could be a perk for that store to be able to get first dibs on something or like you said the store could also have a hands off approach. Neither is really right or wrong because say you are really looking forward to something and get ready to buy it from the store you work at only to be told that 2 days prior to its release that you can't? Yeah people would probably speak out against that too.
 

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Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Satsuki666 said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
From what I hear, there's a good chance that they HAD enough coming in, but they had employees and Managers call "dibs" on systems during the first shipment. I understand it happens quite a bit. So much that customers can't pick up new games because employees have squirreled away copies for themselves.
Well that does make sense. I mean when there is only going to be a limited supply and its a first come first serve it only makes sense that the guy who works there would pick up his copy first since he would be the first to pay for it. Just because they work there does not mean they are not allowed to buy anything from the store.
But this is when their SUPPOSED to be filling preorders made by customers who have paid their games in full, then can't pick it up because they're holding them for themselves.
What happens if said employee preorders and pays in full before a lot of other people? Does that still make it wrong for him to pick up his preorder on launch day before anyone else simply because he works there?
Well now you're arguing with hypotheticals. I'm saying that holding copies of games or new consoles when customers are WAITING for the product they paid for isn't right. Most places don't let employees take sought after merchandise like REALLY popular games like at Gamestop or maybe even TVs at a place like where I work until after a certain amount of time has passed. I'm saying SPECIFICALLY that employees squirreling away games and consoles when they have customers WAITING is simply wrong.
The funny thing is that you are saying that I am arguing Hypotheticals while you yourself are also arguing hypotheticals. Yes it does happen SOMETIMES but so does mine. Its actually well within the rights of the places to do. I mean it could be a perk for that store to be able to get first dibs on something or like you said the store could also have a hands off approach. Neither is really right or wrong because say you are really looking forward to something and get ready to buy it from the store you work at only to be told that 2 days prior to its release that you can't? Yeah people would probably speak out against that too.
Geez, I specifically said this was something my friends who are former employees saw this happening, and if I didn't I certainly meant to.
 

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Loonyyy said:
Your post mostly retreads the news stories printed on the escapist recently, which is kind of pointless. The stuff about GameStop being a poor employer is now common knowledge.

Much more interesting is the other stuff. They do criminal record checks? You know, like nearly all big employers? Most businesses actively discriminate against convicted felons, even after they've served their debt to society. It's just the way things go, it's not nice, but it's hardly unique. It's a widespread, and rather unfortunate practice.

I worked at a McDonalds for a while, and the conditions there weren't great either. But the thing is, if you don't like the conditions, you can always leave. If you think their decisions are illegal, then you can contact a lawyer, the union, the police, or similar. They exist to make money, and in doing so, they'll be as ruthless as they can get away with.

This doesn't really seem to have an endgame in mind: Are you trying to say that *gasp* GameStop has some less than savoury business practices? Are you trying to incite a boycott? Do you want to gather people for a class action lawsuit? Because I just don't see the use in collecting a bunch of annoyed employees or ex-employees for no reason.
Then again, I did just comment on your post.
Well the reason I brought those links up was because people ASKED for them. I was simply asking if others had heard these things and if people would share anything else. I was genuinlly curious about these things. And just telling someone to leave a job they're unhappy at is kind of shitty if you ask me. Like the last guy tried to say, people without marketable skills, like people who work on the bottom rung of retail stores, can't AFFORD to go without having a job.

The criminal record checks were being made on customers, not employees. I'm positive every job does criminal background checks on you when you're being considered for employment. But these were being made on customers without telling them, which some people take offense to.

I wasn't trying to incite anything. I was simply asking if anyone else had heard anything like this and if they would share similar information they had or their own experiences.
 

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Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Satsuki666 said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
From what I hear, there's a good chance that they HAD enough coming in, but they had employees and Managers call "dibs" on systems during the first shipment. I understand it happens quite a bit. So much that customers can't pick up new games because employees have squirreled away copies for themselves.
Well that does make sense. I mean when there is only going to be a limited supply and its a first come first serve it only makes sense that the guy who works there would pick up his copy first since he would be the first to pay for it. Just because they work there does not mean they are not allowed to buy anything from the store.
But this is when their SUPPOSED to be filling preorders made by customers who have paid their games in full, then can't pick it up because they're holding them for themselves.
What happens if said employee preorders and pays in full before a lot of other people? Does that still make it wrong for him to pick up his preorder on launch day before anyone else simply because he works there?
Well now you're arguing with hypotheticals. I'm saying that holding copies of games or new consoles when customers are WAITING for the product they paid for isn't right. Most places don't let employees take sought after merchandise like REALLY popular games like at Gamestop or maybe even TVs at a place like where I work until after a certain amount of time has passed. I'm saying SPECIFICALLY that employees squirreling away games and consoles when they have customers WAITING is simply wrong.
The funny thing is that you are saying that I am arguing Hypotheticals while you yourself are also arguing hypotheticals. Yes it does happen SOMETIMES but so does mine. Its actually well within the rights of the places to do. I mean it could be a perk for that store to be able to get first dibs on something or like you said the store could also have a hands off approach. Neither is really right or wrong because say you are really looking forward to something and get ready to buy it from the store you work at only to be told that 2 days prior to its release that you can't? Yeah people would probably speak out against that too.
Geez, I specifically said this was something my friends who are former employees saw this happening, and if I didn't I certainly meant to.
then tell them to read their contracts better then. Because if it specifically says that you cant do this then they can do it doesn't matter if you think its morally right or what.
 

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Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Satsuki666 said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
From what I hear, there's a good chance that they HAD enough coming in, but they had employees and Managers call "dibs" on systems during the first shipment. I understand it happens quite a bit. So much that customers can't pick up new games because employees have squirreled away copies for themselves.
Well that does make sense. I mean when there is only going to be a limited supply and its a first come first serve it only makes sense that the guy who works there would pick up his copy first since he would be the first to pay for it. Just because they work there does not mean they are not allowed to buy anything from the store.
But this is when their SUPPOSED to be filling preorders made by customers who have paid their games in full, then can't pick it up because they're holding them for themselves.
What happens if said employee preorders and pays in full before a lot of other people? Does that still make it wrong for him to pick up his preorder on launch day before anyone else simply because he works there?
Well now you're arguing with hypotheticals. I'm saying that holding copies of games or new consoles when customers are WAITING for the product they paid for isn't right. Most places don't let employees take sought after merchandise like REALLY popular games like at Gamestop or maybe even TVs at a place like where I work until after a certain amount of time has passed. I'm saying SPECIFICALLY that employees squirreling away games and consoles when they have customers WAITING is simply wrong.
The funny thing is that you are saying that I am arguing Hypotheticals while you yourself are also arguing hypotheticals. Yes it does happen SOMETIMES but so does mine. Its actually well within the rights of the places to do. I mean it could be a perk for that store to be able to get first dibs on something or like you said the store could also have a hands off approach. Neither is really right or wrong because say you are really looking forward to something and get ready to buy it from the store you work at only to be told that 2 days prior to its release that you can't? Yeah people would probably speak out against that too.
Geez, I specifically said this was something my friends who are former employees saw this happening, and if I didn't I certainly meant to.
then tell them to read their contracts better then. Because if it specifically says that you cant do this then they can do it doesn't matter if you think its morally right or what.
The problem is it ISN'T said they can do that. It just IS done.
 

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Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Krion_Vark said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
Satsuki666 said:
Jitters Caffeine said:
From what I hear, there's a good chance that they HAD enough coming in, but they had employees and Managers call "dibs" on systems during the first shipment. I understand it happens quite a bit. So much that customers can't pick up new games because employees have squirreled away copies for themselves.
Well that does make sense. I mean when there is only going to be a limited supply and its a first come first serve it only makes sense that the guy who works there would pick up his copy first since he would be the first to pay for it. Just because they work there does not mean they are not allowed to buy anything from the store.
But this is when their SUPPOSED to be filling preorders made by customers who have paid their games in full, then can't pick it up because they're holding them for themselves.
What happens if said employee preorders and pays in full before a lot of other people? Does that still make it wrong for him to pick up his preorder on launch day before anyone else simply because he works there?
Well now you're arguing with hypotheticals. I'm saying that holding copies of games or new consoles when customers are WAITING for the product they paid for isn't right. Most places don't let employees take sought after merchandise like REALLY popular games like at Gamestop or maybe even TVs at a place like where I work until after a certain amount of time has passed. I'm saying SPECIFICALLY that employees squirreling away games and consoles when they have customers WAITING is simply wrong.
The funny thing is that you are saying that I am arguing Hypotheticals while you yourself are also arguing hypotheticals. Yes it does happen SOMETIMES but so does mine. Its actually well within the rights of the places to do. I mean it could be a perk for that store to be able to get first dibs on something or like you said the store could also have a hands off approach. Neither is really right or wrong because say you are really looking forward to something and get ready to buy it from the store you work at only to be told that 2 days prior to its release that you can't? Yeah people would probably speak out against that too.
Geez, I specifically said this was something my friends who are former employees saw this happening, and if I didn't I certainly meant to.
then tell them to read their contracts better then. Because if it specifically says that you cant do this then they can do it doesn't matter if you think its morally right or what.
The problem is it ISN'T said they can do that. It just IS done.
You don't seem to be getting what I am saying so I will say it clearly this time.
IF IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY CANNOT DO IT THEN THEY ARE IN THEIR RIGHT TO DO IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK ITS MORALLY RIGHT OR NOT. Hell there are a lot of places that have weird morals when it comes to how to run their business but apparently the only place you seem to care is gamestop.
 

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Jitters Caffeine said:
In the last few days, I have heard about and subsequently researched horrible things Gamestop has been accused of doing. Now I'm not talking about whether or not the "used games market" is stealing money from publishers, I'm just talking about business practices of the stores themselves. But from what I hear, Gamestop is guilty of acts that are LITERALLY illegal in the state of California, such as not giving employees breaks, forced searches on employees before their lunches and at the ends of shifts, and damn near stealing money from employees with something called a "Comdata" card that the store signs you up for when you're hired. It was also brought to my attention that in some, not all, that employees actually run criminal record scans on customers without notification. Even the police at least TELL you that their doing it. Now this is FAR from everything that I've been told, but I would really like to know if anyone else had heard anything like this. I would especially like it if current or former Gamestop employees would speak up, because those people would have been on the front lines so to speak.

Now I have no idea how "up to date" my information is, but I will be glad to link the videos I was shown that really bothered me.

Please do not misunderstand me. I fully supported and even defended Gamestop until just recently, so this isn't just some "I hate how they steal money from publishers" thing. I am speaking on Gamestop's apparent treatment of employees as expendable numbers that can be replaced in an instant, and customers as walking sacks with dollar signs on them ripe for the pillaging. I am genuinely interested in any information people have about their experiences.
Yeah so? If the employees really mind they wouldn't work for gamestop . Either that or they would sue them . If the employees are not aware of these laws , then it's their own fault , ignorance is not an excuse . Say what you want about gamestop but , it's the employees fault for not contestig this or working for them. I blame gamestop for nothing.
we are in a depression. you know that right? This shitty job may be the only choice.
 

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Ekibiogami said:
There is nothing wrong with searching the employes. They are a Industry of small valuable things. It is Right to search them, But it had better be in the Employe handbook.
A right to search an employee? Umm where are you from? A cop cannot search you unless you are under arrest why should an employer have that right and why would you want to give them that right? imagine the abuse a manager could pull having that right between getting an employee fired by planting to sexual misconduct. No company should have the right to search an employee ever.
I don't think you understand how searching works. They don't take your clothes, bend you over, put on a rubber glove and say "this will only take a second".

From my experience, they usually only check bags, coat pockets, maybe a hat or two but that's about it. Also, they don't forcefully take the objects in question, they have you hold/show it to them.

I don't see much wrong with companies searching employees. Prevents thief and the like. Plus more often than not it says in the employee handbook they can.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/w/workplace-searches/
Without a clearly established policy or voluntary consent of the employee, employers may not conduct general searches of the employee's property or the employee's body, even if the employer suspects the employee has violated a crime, stolen company property, or has cause to believe the employee possesses illegal drugs.
An employee handbook is not clear policy either. during the hiring process having the employee sign a document allowing searches is. Without having a written contract stating you consent to searches of any kind then it is a violation.

As for my statement above you quoted, sexual could be if the person had a condom in there pocket or a dildo in her purse and that information then spreads around the office or the boss/searcher makes lewd comments. and as I said its a to and from statement with everything inbetween and not just the ends.

Sorry but I have never worked for a company in 25 years that ever made me sign any document that allowed searches of any kind and i would never sign such a document on principle even though I carry like 4 things on me and thats my keys, wallet, ciggerettes, and a lighter. being complacent and consenting when they ask regardless if you are guilty or not empowers them to do it and it becomes policy then becomes law. fuck that, whats in my pockets is not anyones bussiness but my own.