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I have heard they are already making season 2.

Scorched_Cascade said:
>It's implied that she was considering suicide by throwing herself off that cliff. She would be reborn as a new avatar in the cycle who would have all their bending available to them and would be able to fix her mistakes. What possible purpose does a broken avatar have? None, she can't keep balance like that.

There was something in the previous series about unblocking each chakra and the most important one for attaining the avatar state was "letting go of everything". I'd guess that's what she was doing if she was planning on killing herself.
I didn't get why she was able to suddenly reach the Avatar state until it clicked what she would have been thinking.

The way every time somebody was thrown out of a plane they had a parachute and such was making me think that the show was being too soft on issues related to death. Then we have murder suicide and the main character contemplating suicide. I like it.
 

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A thing that they totally left out is that the series shows a lot of parralels to the start of the 2nd world war. And when in the first part of the finale...
amon takes over the city, i would have expected the series to move from "preparing" for a battle to "fighting from the underground resistance" similar to how in WWII there were resistance fighters trying to oppose germany. This would be a major plot development and a change in setting, similar to the events between Book2 and Book3 of LoA.
Also this would be food for the series to get out and about, visit different places and different locations. traveling on top of a skybison or polarbear dog like Aang used to do.

But instead ships roll in, korra defeats amon in a backalley of the tournament building, amon gets killed by his brother and avatar state fixes everything

so much potential to develop the series in a new direction all lost in about 20 minutes...
 

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Knight Templar said:
The way every time somebody was thrown out of a plane they had a parachute and such was making me think that the show was being too soft on issues related to death. Then we have murder suicide and the main character contemplating suicide. I like it.
I find the incredibly obvious "They're okay folks" shots in current children's TV both annoying and hilarious :p
 

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henritje said:
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..The hell is Legend of Korra?
the sequal to Avatar the last Airbender
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wait it,s already over? I haven't gotten around it yet but it,s on the hair for just a few months. Or is it the season final?
Season final. It's supposed to get another 12 episodes at least as far as I know.
 

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This was an awesome episode, but there were a few things that really bugged me.
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<spoiler=After reading several explanations I decided to revise my gripe on bending>he issue I had with blood bending taking away people's abilities was not that it can remove it, but there's so much left unexplained about it. He severs the connection between a bender and their element, which was why Korra could only airbend, but could any sufficient waterbender restore it? The only person who could restore it was the avatar, which is even more confusing since Amon and Aang use different types of bending to debend people.
My guess is he uses bloodbending to alter a persons' brain and remove the ability to bend his/her element by severing the link(like pulling the plug out of a tv). I'd say other bloodbenders should be able to reverse this, but don't forget oman is a prodigy and might be the only one capable of doing it.

Korra could suddenly airbend because she never could; her other elements and personality clashed with it too much. So when oman removed her bending, her connection to airbending could be established because there was nothing in the way anymore. But that's just my theory.

The avatar can restore the connection because he/she is the bridge between the worlds(could also be because the avater can use all forms of bending). My guess is that bending somehow is connected to the spirit world. But I'm sure that's mentioned somewhere in either of the series.
 

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Scarim Coral said:
The season finals was quite satisficing to say the least-
Dammit Mako I was a Mako/ Asumi shipper! I didn't want Korra getting it her way (no I don't think she's a marysue before you asked). What will Asami do now? Take over her father business?
I knew that for Amon take Korra bending away, it open her up to Air bending. Sure it's a Duex Ex Machnina but need I remind you of the Lion Turtle in the previous Avatar series?
Also the whole Non bender vs Bender wasn't resolve. Sure Amon was a fraud which will lead the Equalist disorganise and dissolve but their causes will not be over. I guess they will linger onto season 2.

I did felt the final battle was anticlimactic but that scene near the end was just sad. Also right at the end was just pure fanservice!
Either way I will be waiting for season 2.
I don't think the Lion Turtle was a Deus Ex Machina. The writers said they'd planned from the start to remove Ozai's bending, so it was hardly just something that came out of nowhere. There were actually hints at the Lion Turtle way in advance if you looked.
 

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John the Gamer said:
NegaWiki said:
This was an awesome episode, but there were a few things that really bugged me.
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<spoiler=After reading several explanations I decided to revise my gripe on bending>he issue I had with blood bending taking away people's abilities was not that it can remove it, but there's so much left unexplained about it. He severs the connection between a bender and their element, which was why Korra could only airbend, but could any sufficient waterbender restore it? The only person who could restore it was the avatar, which is even more confusing since Amon and Aang use different types of bending to debend people.
My guess is he uses bloodbending to alter a persons' brain and remove the ability to bend his/her element by severing the link(like pulling the plug out of a tv). I'd say other bloodbenders should be able to reverse this, but don't forget oman is a prodigy and might be the only one capable of doing it.

Korra could suddenly airbend because she never could; her other elements and personality clashed with it too much. So when oman removed her bending, her connection to airbending could be established because there was nothing in the way anymore. But that's just my theory.

The avatar can restore the connection because he/she is the bridge between the worlds(could also be because the avater can use all forms of bending). My guess is that bending somehow is connected to the spirit world. But I'm sure that's mentioned somewhere in either of the series.
The Avatar State is described as giving the Avatar access to techniques and power they have yet to achieve in their normal form. So yeah, that works.
 

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Imp Emissary said:
I don't want it to be true, but what I heard at the start of this was that it was a one season deal only. That's why the whole thing was a bit fast, good, but fast.

I do hope they do more though, or at least make something new.

But maybe that's changed by now.
No they already announced season 2, and it might be longer if fans want it to be.
Really? Awesome!

Well, then I do have to question what will threaten Korra. What with the blood bending brothers gone, and all. But I guess we'll just have to play the waiting game for now.

Hope it's good!
 

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There is no way Amon could survive THAT explosion, maybe if he was lieutenant...
don't like that much new stuff being tossed in the season finale, kinda why i was a bit unhappy with sozins comet in retrospect.
i dont see how this could go into second season, everyone seems to be mostly done in maturity, which was the main appeal of TLA. seeing the characters grow such as Katara was near xenophobic when it came to fire nation being a savior spirit (painted lady) or Toph going from impulsive and selfish to caring and responsible. i can't see how korra and Mako/Bolin can go from here...
 

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You just know there's going to be a next season. Hopefully then, we'll find the Lieutenant is not only still alive but more awesome, Bolin will get more screentime and some development out of "fat idiot" territory and there's a possibility of Korra and Mako breaking up.

Also maybe we'll see Bumi get some screentime. He does look like an awesome character.
 

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There is no way Amon could survive THAT explosion, maybe if he was lieutenant...
Don't like that much new stuff being tossed in the season finale, kinda why I was a bit unhappy with Sozin's comet in retrospect.
I don't see how this could go into second season, everyone seems to be mostly done in maturity, which was the main appeal of TLA. seeing the characters grow such as Katara was near xenophobic when it came to fire nation being a savior spirit (painted lady) or Toph going from impulsive and selfish to caring and responsible. I can't see how Korra and Mako/Bolin can go from here...
Clearly Amon blood-bended his brother and threw his body over the gas tank to save himself, and - what burns he has - he could jump into the water. Or, if you don't want a darker consequence, he water-bended a shield at the last second. Either way, Amon with nasty scars? Makes a pretty thrilling and ugly villain for series 2.

That's all speculation on what 'could' be done with the plot, btw. He could easily have died as well.


I can see a second series if you throw in a new bad guy and hum a few bars. There's still unresolved issue with Mako's choice in women (he's pained regardless of who he picks), Bolin looks rather lonely. And if something happened to Bolin, I'm sure Mako would drop Korra in a second to save his brother. Then poor Asami could have more back story to her. They also introduced Tenzin's brother finally and Iroh.

The rest of the world is also unresolved. Series one was only X City. Like in many videogames, you can start with a small area, then expand to show a much larger picture. I can see the creators of Avatar planning something like that. "Amon was a great threat to the bending of the city. Now that he has been defeated, Team Avatar can relax. If only they knew, however, that a larger evil was out there in the world."
 

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Dryk said:
An Avatar that can't bend is just dead weight preventing an Avatar with actually Avatar powers from being born. If her bending was actually irreversibly taken away, throwing herself off that cliff would have been her duty as an Avatar.

Now that would've made for an extra dark ending
Yes, but I think it would have made for a wonderful story to see her earn her bending back. You know, put her on a path to open her chakras and all of that. It would mean there's an earthly and achievable solution to the problem, but not an easy one.

I guess what I'm saying is that we've seen Avatars in full power before. It'd be interesting to see how they truly act when all of that power is taken away.
 

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I wasn't that surprised. When Amon attacked and took away Tarlok in episode 9(?) he personally carries him off to the truck. Something he's never been shown to do. Then, he leaves the Avatar, one of the most powerful benders in the world, to his Lieutenant and a few chi-blockers. You'd think he would have gone after this huge target himself, no? Also the foreshadowing in the Tarlok/Korra fight, "You're just as bad as Amon" etc.
True there was a bit more subtle foreshadowing in that episode (the carrying his brother back I missed). Leaving a locked up Avatar to his lieutenant seemed like a reasonable choice to me since all they had to do was not open the dam metal box. However looking back that was also a bit of foreshadowing that I missed. During the Tarlok/Korra fight Tarlok did not know Amon was his brother so his reaction certainly wasn't foreshadowing, and the statement itself far to subtle to be considered foreshadowing in my book. That is it doesn't make the surprise (They are brothers) any more reasonable. So yes there were at least some moments of foreshadowing, but there was so little that it still seemed abrupt and rushed to me. However as I said in my original posts that was due to its roots as a mini-series rather than poor storytelling. It had to be that way, but that doesn't mean I have to think it was the best way.

We also know that bending has something to do with the chakras which exist physically inside your body. Bloodbending could somehow cut off the bloodflow to these chakras. That said, I really don't think it needs explaining.
I always viewed chakras as just being a mix of nerve and spiritual pathways through the body (which would mean it would paralyze the person in addition removing their bending). This is supported in the way chi-blockers also remove mobility in with their strikes by paralyzing body parts. If it was as simple as that I'd be surprised Katara wouldn't at least be able to detect the problem (blocked/cut off blood vessels). Additionally this should mean that she wouldn't be able to air bend as well. It isn't really well understood so it could be any number of things which is part of the reason I said it was left incredibly vague. However like you said it doesn't need explaining for the sake of the story, but that doesn't mean it wasn't something that bugged me along with a few other people it seems.

Personally I think he alters the blood flow to the brain and cuts off the blood supply to areas that allow you to utilize your knowledge of bending. This would explain why she was able to air bend (she had no ability to air bend prior), and is incredibly complex (thus Katara wouldn't notice it).

Eh, I liked it. Not nearly as bad as a giant lion-turtle and the significance of energy-bending has been foreshadowed a number of times.
To be fair I didn't like the lion-turtle thing either for the same reasons. However I'm of the opposite opinion in that this was worse. Aang was actively searching for a way to stop Ozai without killing him and the spirits lead him to the lion turtle. Korra got depressed and formed a connection to the spirit world by accident with absolutely no effort or thought behind it. In addition she basically instantly mastered the Avatar state. Again this was likely due to its roots as a mini-series.

I really think it was quite realistic. Tarlok was power-hungry but he was never evil. In his fight with Korra when she says he is just as bad as Amon he really flips out. He does not want to be the monster his father was, and he becomes just as bad without realizing it. Sometimes you need to have your power taken away before you can realize how you were abusing it.
This is the one I've been struggling with the most. The best I can say is that it doesn't seem realistic to me in that I can't imagine someone having that much of a lack of self-reporting. However real life cases of similar things do exist so in that sense it is realistic albeit its for longer periods of time for the shift to occur. I understand the whole gradual steps to becoming a monster and regretting that, but again it just seemed rushed and the flip flop in such a short amount of time seems unrealistic to me. Having Tarlok be conflicted with revenge, duty, and family would have been infinitely better in my book than "I was wrong let me help you now."

The fights were the best they've been
That I want an explanation on because for the most part (besides Iroh) they seemed bland to me. It is an opinion so I won't argue with it, but I'm just curious what you found to be better than what they have been.

Amazing amazing amazing.

I can't wait for next season.
To that I agree. I know with all my criticism it may seem I didn't like it, but I did love the series with the finale included.

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Agreed and besides from that one date they had I'd say Korra and Bolin seem perfect together while Mako is just a bit of a twat all round.
I would have liked to see Bolin/Korra together as it was progressing but now I don't think I'd want it to happen. I've moved on and it feels like Bolin has to. I'm really hoping they either break Mako/Korra up or downplay the relationship in season 2. Both would be preferred.

It's implied that she was considering suicide by throwing herself off that cliff. She would be reborn as a new avatar in the cycle who would have all their bending available to them and would be able to fix her mistakes. What possible purpose does a broken avatar have? None, she can't keep balance like that.
I realize that but it doesn't really fix the problems I mentioned.

There was something in the previous series about unblocking each chakra and the most important one for attaining the avatar state was "letting go of everything". I'd guess that's what she was doing if she was planning on killing herself.
Except she didn't let go of everything. She didn't throw herself from the cliff, she sat back down and cried. If she had thrown herself from the cliff then while it would still feel rushed I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it.

He has been sat in that jail cell a long time. He's both just lost his bending and just found out that his brother is still alive after all these years. I'd imagine he was doing some reflection.
A few days does not constitute a long time in my book. See my response to Hafrael for additional comments on the issue.
 

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I rather liked it.

A little miffed that they undermined both Lin's moment of pure badassery and the price she payed for it.

Also, the whole romance business felt kinda... obligatory.

Where are they gonna go for the next season? Bad guys are presumed dead, airbending has been achieved, city saved, avatar state is a go and everyone can get un-unbent.

Will there even be another season?
 

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Binnsyboy said:
John the Gamer said:
NegaWiki said:
This was an awesome episode, but there were a few things that really bugged me.
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<spoiler=After reading several explanations I decided to revise my gripe on bending>he issue I had with blood bending taking away people's abilities was not that it can remove it, but there's so much left unexplained about it. He severs the connection between a bender and their element, which was why Korra could only airbend, but could any sufficient waterbender restore it? The only person who could restore it was the avatar, which is even more confusing since Amon and Aang use different types of bending to debend people.
My guess is he uses bloodbending to alter a persons' brain and remove the ability to bend his/her element by severing the link(like pulling the plug out of a tv). I'd say other bloodbenders should be able to reverse this, but don't forget oman is a prodigy and might be the only one capable of doing it.

Korra could suddenly airbend because she never could; her other elements and personality clashed with it too much. So when oman removed her bending, her connection to airbending could be established because there was nothing in the way anymore. But that's just my theory.

The avatar can restore the connection because he/she is the bridge between the worlds(could also be because the avater can use all forms of bending). My guess is that bending somehow is connected to the spirit world. But I'm sure that's mentioned somewhere in either of the series.
The Avatar State is described as giving the Avatar access to techniques and power they have yet to achieve in their normal form. So yeah, that works.
Yeah, if I remember it allows them to access the fighting and bending skill and knowledge of all their previous lives combined. The avatar state also forges a stronger link with the spirit world when active, in order to allow the interaction between the avatar-lives to such a degree.

My guess is that the avatar cycle is broken (when the avatar is killed in the avatar state) because the soul of the avatar is sucked into the spirit world completely before entering a new body - thereby breaking the cycle. Could be wrong there though; just speculating.
 

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Zhukov said:
I rather liked it.

A little miffed that they undermined both Lin's moment of pure badassery and the price she payed for it.

Also, the whole romance business felt kinda... obligatory.

Where are they gonna go for the next season? Bad guys are presumed dead, airbending has been achieved, city saved, avatar state is a go and everyone can get un-unbent.

Will there even be another season?
Yes that's confirmed
Maybe Hiroshi Sato will reunite the equalists?
 

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ToastiestZombie said:
Lavethion said:
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This show really was trying the boundaries, I mean...

First fucking warplanes with chinese symbols on them attacking a fleet of ships, I really want to see if anyone complains that it's a lot like Pearl Harbour or something.
Second, fucking SUICIDE in a kids show, really wow. I expected Amon (I don't know the spelling of his actual name) and Tarlok's last scene to be them on the boat simply riding off somewhere, perhaps to come back in a future season. But when Tarlok fucking commited suicide AND killed his brother. Wow, I never expected to see that on a kids show. I mean, if it hadn't of had the typical happy cartoon ending and would of ended with Korra finding out her bending is gone and she's not the avatar then I'm sure a ton of kids would be scarred for ever. I really want to see the reaction of "family groups" to this episode, it'll be fun.

Wait... kids watching LoK? Hahahaha that's as preposterous as kids watching Friendship is Magic!
FiM isn't just for little girls, I swear!

*Cries in the corner while holding a Rainbow Dash doll*



Ah man, you finally changed your avatar.

Now THAT'S a step in the right direction!
...do I know you? Because I certainly don't know you. I'm kind of guessing you may of ban jumped or something, because unless you were stalking me I don't see how you could of got to know me in only 12 days. I dunno, this is all terribly odd.

Oh, you've changed it again, what a shame.

I've been lurking for a long time, trust me bro.
 

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Spoilering all just in case

Heres my problem. I understand why, but what I wanted to see is that Korra is not actually the avatar. Toward the end of the season when (insert forgetable asian sounding name here) is convicted by Sakka for being a remarkable bender for being able to blood bend without the full moon, it set up a perfect scenario for Korra to not be the Avatar, for her to simply be another remarkable bender who is able to bend 3 different elements. Which also explains why she was unable to airbend. If that was done it sets it up for Amon to be the actual avatar and explain why he was able to remove other peoples bending in basically the same fashion as Aang did.

That would have been so much better, basically having the avatar as the antagonist of the series with the focus of the second season being on stopping Amon from ridding the world of bending because it was the only way for the Avatar to bring balance to the world and in essence end the Avatar cycle all together as The Last Avatar.

Buuuut... thats just my thoughts on it. Otherwise the finale was an adequate season finale for a teens cartoon.

Yes and Maako sucks as a char. Hes just reinforcing the negative stereotype of the borderline effeminate Asian male archetype, which if Korra is so wild its counter logical for her to want to be with someone so bland and devoid of actual personality.