X-Com Creator Weighs in on Remake

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Jared

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Intresting...I wouldnt mind playing i myself, it does look intresting at the bery least - Although nice to hear creators thoughts
 

Atmos Duality

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Turn-based combat is niche now?
Jeez is that disappointing.

Heh. I just had a thought. Wouldn't this make chess 'niche' now, wouldn't it?

Otherwise, I feel no need to reiterate what I've felt since I saw the E3 footage; the X-COM Remake will prove to be little more than another bland FPS.
As a game, it will be utterly forgettable, but competently made.
As a remake/reboot, it will do nothing useful. The name is only there to try to sucker people from my generation into buying it, and it aint working too well from the looks of things.
 

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Two things.

1) If this game was called G-Men, I'd be far more interested in it. Because the idea of being an early 50s MIB, hunting down alien invaders with weird weapons...yeah, that sounds cool.

2) http://www.xenonauts.com/

That is all.
 

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Where are the 90s with game designers trying things like Battlezone, mixing RTS elements with first-person piloting? Or turn based games that drew off of concepts like chess? Or adventure games that....that....well...aight, they understandably had to die out since certain modern RPGs can pretty much do everything they did. :p

A decade passes and publishers and investors grow scared to take any risks. No more Origin interactive with its fusion of in-game movies and gameplay, no more Westwood Studios or Adeline...all big monies now and being 'responsible' and 'playing it safe' and 'money being handled properly' these days I suppose. Go figure... /end nostalgia
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
X-com was anime styled.... just so you know.
Not entirely sure what you mean here. It's been years and years since I played the games so maybe I've forgotten. I'm not only thinking of the art though. The characterization (and/or lack thereof) also counts.
 

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I actually remember an awesome cartoon coming out at around the same time called Exo-Squad and I noticed how their haircuts and gear looked remarkably like that within the original X-Com. Funny.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
X-com was anime styled.... just so you know.
Actually, the cut scenes had an American comic book style and the design in general was influenced by the classic British TV science fiction show UFO by Gerry Anderson.
 

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GamesB2 said:
Hmm I had the fortune/misfortune of never playing the original games.

On one hand I obviously missed out on what seems like a great series.

On the other hand this game looks quite good and I'll be able to enjoy it in it's own merit and not in the shadow of its predecessors.

I heard in another thread references to the UFO series... what has that got to do with X-Com?
If you wanna get a feel of the true X-Com experience without actually playing the games go here [http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/index.php?stitle=x-com&sauth=&splat=&stype=all&sgenre=&search=Search]. "UFO Defense" is the first one.

More Fun To Compute said:
Actually, the cut scenes had an American comic book style and the design in general was influenced by the classic British TV science fiction show UFO by Gerry Anderson.
If I could, I'd make out with you right now. Irrespective of your gender. Sorry for being so creepy.
 

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I got the first 5 games for £5 years ago. Brilliant investment. Would've loved to see it come back in it's true form rather than another FPS.

FPS is such a tired genre at this stage.

I wouldve rathered see a new Xcom in the style of the originals released as an XBL/PSN arcade game rather than this
 

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finnaly theyre gonna make everything eassier for me i won't need to think like an elite strategic commander/general commanding a dozen soldiers fighting agianst aliens they will just give me some old school shooty action
 

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I loved the game "X-COM: UFO - Enemy Unknown" (as it was called here) and played it for years. It remains the only real TBC game I ever played (unless you count "Battle Chess"!) but, as with the Fallout series, I feel things have to evolve.

Wardy
 

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Greyhald said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Well I never played the original series (I was young and had no idea about it) but I have read up on this new X-COM and I think it looks and will be amazing, also it's not the only FPS X-COM, there was one that came before
Not really.

It was X-Com Alliance and it was never finished. It was shelved when Hasbro shut down it's gaming company (hasbro interactive?).
I think he was remembering Enforcer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-COM:_Enforcer
I was unlucky enough to be given it as a present when I was younger, and finish it too. Not that that was hard.

The_root_of_all_evil said:
RAH! We still love you Julian. Just mind-control 2K Australia and watch them fire a Blasterbomb at their feet. :)

GamesB2 said:
Hmm I had the fortune/misfortune of never playing the original games.

On one hand I obviously missed out on what seems like a great series.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/362.82574-Lets-Play-UFO-Enemy-Unknown#1129693

On the other hand this game looks quite good and I'll be able to enjoy it in it's own merit and not in the shadow of its predecessors.
Really? It looks like another lame shooter that totally divorces itself from the original. Just like "The Karate Kid".
I heard in another thread references to the UFO series... what has that got to do with X-Com?
The UFO series were heavily influenced by X-Com, sort of a spiritual successor after Apocalypse crashed out before being finished.
Huh...Apocalypse crashed out before being finished? *stares at my copy* Unless you meant released without being finished? Although, Apoc is my second favourite XCOM after Terror From the Deep, I never really noticed anything un-finished in it, and the Steam version is almost bug free.

Interceptor does not exist. Nope. Does. Not. Exist.
 

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That's pretty disheartening, I'd say. It's like Miyamoto just told us all not to buy The Other M.
 

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Nurb said:
After all these stories about IPs being ruined in front of their creators, corporations resorting to dirty legal tricks, the animosity growing between gamers and publishers, paying more money for less content, the budget gap that makes competing with big companies nearly impossible...

Gaming is more and more becoming a glaringly ugly and unpleasant thing to make a hobby and/or career of. It wasn't always like this. (but the nastiness among gamers was always there, but hey, you're dealing with mostly kids)

Anyway, it's the same thing that happend to Fallout 3

Good grief, that image perfectly explains everything that is wrong with bloody Fallout 3. I can't decide if I want to cry or laugh. Thanks for posting that. I love!
 

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I loved the original games but, seriously, turn-based games take a long, long, long time to play. It's all that reloading every time your dudes totally fail to kill that one lobsterman in front of them who then wipes them all out.

More to the point, an FPS makes sense atmospherically. I always felt quite connected to those soldiers and I feel that the setting of UFO can easily handle an FPS game without invalidating those older games.

But, seriously, someone needs to take the old mechanics and streamline them - like Rebelstar: Tactical Command did. Hope somebody remembered to mention it ;-)
 

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They should have put together something with a combat system similar to "Valkyria Chronicles". Such a X-com game would have sure got my purchase and have been able to stay true to the original concept.
 

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This new Xcom, I'm less than thrilled about. A remake of the original still in its turn based gameplay would rock. I'd be all over it. I loved the first one even though the only reason I got it was there was nothing else that was even remotely interesting at the store that day to purchase. I may have to hit up steam or some other download service and snag the entirity of the xcom series.
 

Antari

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Another example of a company completely screwing up a good thing, by taking the easy path everyone else has taken thousands of times before.
 
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zHellas said:
I didn't know that the re-imagining of The Karate Kid was a lame shooter! Hmm... I guess you do learn something new each and every day.
Well, it was certainly lame...

WARNING: GRATUITOUS SWEARING

But yeah, missed a semi-colon, sue me ;)

GothmogII said:
Huh...Apocalypse crashed out before being finished? *stares at my copy* Unless you meant released without being finished? Although, Apoc is my second favourite XCOM after Terror From the Deep, I never really noticed anything un-finished in it, and the Steam version is almost bug free.

Interceptor does not exist. Nope. Does. Not. Exist.
I do know a bit about Apocalypse and Interceptor...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/5379-Review-X-Com-Revival-Package

But yeah, Apocalypse was on its way to becoming mega-awesome when the creators, Mythos Games [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-COM:_Apocalypse] ran into problems with time. So they packed up how far they'd got and sold it before implementation.

(You'd have REALLY enjoyed the Energy Web, The Sonic Cleaver or the 8 player multiplayer options)
 

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I really doubt that a turn-based XCom sequel could have been better than the original game. Prettier, sure, but not better... technology can't help you there. So it's just as well that the new game is only tangentally related.

I think setting the game in a very conservative 80's USA could have been a better fit with the series than taking the wayback machine to the 50's, while retaining the same cultural tone. Fallout 3 pretty much owns the rights to the high-tech postwar look.