X-Men: Apocalypse Thread (Spoiler Warning - Spoilers Inside)

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I saw it as some kind of premi?re double-feature thing with Days Of Future Past. A friend of mine is a heavy X-Men fan and asked me if I wanted to tag along.

And oh boy, that was one wild ride of unintentional comedy and awful movie making. Cheap and dreadful CGI and sets (aka everything set in/near Cairo), godawful acting (Jennifer Lawrence, the secret agent girl and pretty much every extra with a line), baffling editing decisions (way too abruptly cutting away at times, even mid-dialogue), terrible writing (the entire bit in the green-laser prison for instance, everything about Magneto), lazy directing (the hell was up with the pacing?), tonality that was all over the place (Apocalypse's slow-mo punching nonsense; suddenly slapstick!) and the list goes on. No, I can't think of any reasonable reason to give this movie a favourable review.

Oh and eh, Wolverine's rampage being awesome? I'd rather call it hilarious. His 'reveal' with that stupid thing on his head, his lazy acting, that ridiculous screaming in that camera, Jean 'helping' him and him bolting off all the while having no real relevance to the plot whatsoever. I laughed so hard.

I suppose that it helped that I'm not at all invested in the X-Men. I reckon it can be somewhat satisfying and fun for X-Men fans. But for me? The only enjoyment was found in the sheer awfulness of it all. The friend I was with was simply sad though, she really wanted better for her beloved franchise.
inu-kun said:
Holy shit, how can he even get to leftist propoganda (in a negative way) in an X-Men movie?
He doesn't get into it in a negative way. He simply mentions that he liked the allusions to the plights of gay/minority youth in X-Men. Something X-Men has done for ages now. But you know how well liking that sort of thing goes over here on The Escapist.

And I don't even Like MovieBob, not since his "there's no bad tactics, only bad targets" views became clear. But he's definitely right in this review; from a technical standpoint this movie is an absolute mess.
 

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I'd like to offer a trophy to the assassin in the movie's prologue and his excellent portrayal as a pretzel.
 

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Reed Spacer said:
I'd like to offer a trophy to the assassin in the movie's prologue and his excellent portrayal as a pretzel.
Did you know PG-13 movies can only have one "fuck" in them? But pretzel men, people set on fire, decapitations, ribs sprouting out of people's chests, etc. are completely fine.
 

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Well, visually its amazing, and not afraid to get violent, but Fox's X-Men is far more willing to botch the source material than the true MCU. Havok is supposed tobe the YOUNGER brother, Psylocke is skipping like, most of her history (though I suppose I understand why), and Jubilee...well, I always felt she was supposed to be a "new" X-Men character, so having her be around with the "original" team is dumb.

Also I wish it was more clear what the time traveling is changing. Angel's appearance in this contradicts his previous appearance, but Nightcrawler doesn't, since it just makes his story happier than in X2. Guessing Mystique isn't going to fight Wolverine on the Statue of Liberty though.

As for the critics, I don't trust professional critics. As for audience members...I don't trust the opinion of those who aren't Marvel/X-Men fans.

Poor Wanda, having Fox kill her as a child. Kind of want a movie with X-Men's Wanda...sorry, Nina, and MCU's Quicksilver, since they died cause of stupid rights ownership issues.

That opening scene in Ancient Egypt makes me really want a new Mortal Kombat movie. Maybe if the DC movies finally fail too much, WB will try Mortal Kombat instead.
 

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Saelune said:
Poor Wanda, having Fox kill her as a child. Kind of want a movie with X-Men's Wanda...sorry, Nina, and MCU's Quicksilver, since they died cause of stupid rights ownership issues.
If I'm not mistaken, we saw Wanda in DoFP. As a baby.
 

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Saelune said:
Well, visually its amazing, and not afraid to get violent...

Poor Wanda, having Fox kill her as a child. Kind of want a movie with X-Men's Wanda...sorry, Nina, and MCU's Quicksilver, since they died cause of stupid rights ownership issues.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought it was more violent then the other films, or at least more noticeably so.

Also I though that was Anya from the comics not Wanda.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/anya-eisenhardt/4005-45373/

I mean either one doesn't really line up with the comics but whatever more tragic backstory for Magneto I guess.
 

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inu-kun said:
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Couldn't get past the 4 minutes mark. Dear lord, we get it, he wouldn't like a superhero movie if it's not stamped with the MCU seal of mediocraty.
...But, he mentions several non-MCU movies that he likes (Raimi Spider-Man, Burton Batman, Superman '78, Blade 1&2) and even gave positive reviews to the Dark Knight, Dark Knight Rises, First Class, Deadpool and sort of Days of Future Past (yeah, he took it back, but he did the same to the first two Iron Man movies so it's hardly MCU bias). Why is the MCU the first blame figure people go to when someone doesn't like a superhero movie?
 

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Story said:
Saelune said:
Well, visually its amazing, and not afraid to get violent...

Poor Wanda, having Fox kill her as a child. Kind of want a movie with X-Men's Wanda...sorry, Nina, and MCU's Quicksilver, since they died cause of stupid rights ownership issues.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought it was more violent then the other films, or at least more noticeably so.

Also I though that was Anya from the comics not Wanda.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/anya-eisenhardt/4005-45373/

I mean either one doesn't really line up with the comics but whatever more tragic backstory for Magneto I guess.
Didn't know such a character existed honestly, but based on the powers, and that its likely part of some deal for Quicksilver to be in X-Men and Scarlet Witch to be in MCU, I'm guessing she is an amalgamation of the two, since Magda is supposed to be the twin's mother too. Plus again, Havok is the older sibling in this, so true to source isn't a guarantee by any stretch.

As for the violence, I was like "Is this rated R?". I'm fine with the violence, but it did stand out to me, particularly the Ancient Egypt scene and Weapon X scene.
 

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there's huge plot hole in that movie. like:

-Apocalypse is the first mutant ever to exist. ok, fine. but how the hell he have gain that he ET like tech in ancien egypt ? it's not related with the fact that he's a mutant...

-at the end of days of future past, Striker found 1973 wolverine in the water and save him, but then his eyes turn yellow, implication that's it's actually Mystic that found him, but yet, no indication on how Wolverine pass from the fake Striker to the real Striker.

-how can an arrow with no tip on it (unless it was silex, but it doesnt looked like it) can pass two bodies.

and now, what you do after that movie ? half the world is destroyed, and they have face possibly the most powerfull mutant on earth, so what villain is worth of another movie ? why bring phoenix so quickly ?

plus the magneto is my father thing seems to be misused, why they didnt let maneto know that quicksilver is his son, and then he challenge apocalypse to save his son ? why kill magneto family by accident ? it would have been a much stronger event if they had cold bloodly killed his daugther...

so, it wasnt last stand bad, but it was not a very good movie.