Xbox 720 will have movie quality graphics,how do you think it'll affect console gaming?
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The existance of graphics processing at an affordable price will probably affect PC Gaming by being graphics processing at an affordable price.
Obvious conclusion is obvious.
Obvious conclusion is obvious.
If that technology exists for home consoles, it will presumably exist for PCs as well. I don't think it will affect gaming a whole lot, be it console or PC. As touched upon in the citation, game graphics are probably going to plateau at some point due to the massively inflated costs involved with creating a game of that complexity.
It wont? 3 months after 720s release computers will have something better?
Not really sure what you intended to prove here.
Not really sure what you intended to prove here.
I'm more worried about how it'll affect console gaming.
PC's will outstrip consoles, they always do.
I just don't want games to fuck around making the world super realistic and neglect the actual game. Did you see avatar? It was a show piece, it was a tech demo. It was bad as a film.
I don't want games that are bad as games.
Capcha: Axe to grind.
PC's will outstrip consoles, they always do.
I just don't want games to fuck around making the world super realistic and neglect the actual game. Did you see avatar? It was a show piece, it was a tech demo. It was bad as a film.
I don't want games that are bad as games.
Capcha: Axe to grind.
We're still a long, long way off from Avatar style visuals in a real-time experience. This is like people saying the 360 and PS3 would be Pixar level, which they aren't. We're talking the difference between individually handled and rendered frames, each often the work of hours, and an experience that has to react to the player on the fly at the click of a button at 30+ frames a second.
That said it'll effect the PC just like every single console generation has in the past I suspect. The graphical average will get a bit better as games across all platforms have shinier tools to play with and while the PC might for a short time be inferior, it'll soon catch up and in all likelihood surpass that generation of capabilities within a few months though at an added cost till the individual parts have done down in price. Fortunately during this time the developers will still be learning how to even use the tools at their disposal and so it all really balances out.
Meanwhile people will make topics like this, one after another, to try and spark the whole doom and gloom 'PC gaming is dying' idea we've been seeing ever since the NES. Seriously.
That said it'll effect the PC just like every single console generation has in the past I suspect. The graphical average will get a bit better as games across all platforms have shinier tools to play with and while the PC might for a short time be inferior, it'll soon catch up and in all likelihood surpass that generation of capabilities within a few months though at an added cost till the individual parts have done down in price. Fortunately during this time the developers will still be learning how to even use the tools at their disposal and so it all really balances out.
Meanwhile people will make topics like this, one after another, to try and spark the whole doom and gloom 'PC gaming is dying' idea we've been seeing ever since the NES. Seriously.
It'll do nothing to PC gaming, simple as.
Avatar like graphics? Can you honestly imagine ANY game developer wanting to spending 5+ years per game just to get graphics like that. Each frame in Avatar probably took several hours to render, so just for one second you're looking at a day or so of rendering time.
It took thousands of digital artists and several different companies to create Avatar, very few developers will have those resources, and those that do (Activision) aren't going to want to wait 5 years for modern warfare 23 when they can just upgrade the graphics slightly and get it done in a year.
Now I'm not saying the console won't be capable of these graphics, I'm just saying developers won't have the resources to exploit them straight away until the actual design tools become far easier and far faster to use.
And by that time the PC will have overtaken them again. The first few releases will look like slightly higher res 360 games, and at the end of the console's life you'll see what it can really do, just like the 360.
Avatar like graphics? Can you honestly imagine ANY game developer wanting to spending 5+ years per game just to get graphics like that. Each frame in Avatar probably took several hours to render, so just for one second you're looking at a day or so of rendering time.
It took thousands of digital artists and several different companies to create Avatar, very few developers will have those resources, and those that do (Activision) aren't going to want to wait 5 years for modern warfare 23 when they can just upgrade the graphics slightly and get it done in a year.
Now I'm not saying the console won't be capable of these graphics, I'm just saying developers won't have the resources to exploit them straight away until the actual design tools become far easier and far faster to use.
And by that time the PC will have overtaken them again. The first few releases will look like slightly higher res 360 games, and at the end of the console's life you'll see what it can really do, just like the 360.
Consolified PC games will at least start looking up to par. Also I suspect game engines with plently of pre-existing AI and models will be used more often to cut down on the time it takes small studios to make them themselves and still look decent.
Something I notice in the article is it speculates that modern warfare 4 of all things will be out of this world while even for current standards the COD series is pretty ugly with rubbish AI...I'm not expecting things to change.
Something I notice in the article is it speculates that modern warfare 4 of all things will be out of this world while even for current standards the COD series is pretty ugly with rubbish AI...I'm not expecting things to change.
Also, with the current obsession with HD, surely MS will name the next xbox the 1080 
I can't see em spending more than about $150 on the GPU however, which means it should be quite easy to match it on the PC.
I can't see em spending more than about $150 on the GPU however, which means it should be quite easy to match it on the PC.
So far nothing I've seen beats Cliffs of Dover and Rise of Flight (no matter how buggy CloD is you have to admit it's graphics are superb). Those are modern flight sims and I reckon it's going to take a while to top those.
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Captcha: Prime time
Anyone remember how the PS2 was supposed to have "movie quality graphics"? Remember how that turned out? Yeah.
It's not going to effect anything because it won't happen.
I thought the ridiculous bullshit being spouted at the beginning of this generation would have finally put an end to this, but apparently not. Every time new consoles are on the horizon someone makes impressive claims about their graphical capabilities, and every time they either turn out to be false or the console only achieves the promised level of detail after five years or so, when developers have really mastered the hardware.
When the next generation of consoles comes out it will most likely follow the same trend as all the others- the initial improvement will be barely noticeable in most games (go back and play some Xbox 360 launch titles if you don't believe me), after a few months we'll see an impressive jump, and after four years maybe some AAA games will start to compare favourably with Avatar on a limited scale.
I thought the ridiculous bullshit being spouted at the beginning of this generation would have finally put an end to this, but apparently not. Every time new consoles are on the horizon someone makes impressive claims about their graphical capabilities, and every time they either turn out to be false or the console only achieves the promised level of detail after five years or so, when developers have really mastered the hardware.
When the next generation of consoles comes out it will most likely follow the same trend as all the others- the initial improvement will be barely noticeable in most games (go back and play some Xbox 360 launch titles if you don't believe me), after a few months we'll see an impressive jump, and after four years maybe some AAA games will start to compare favourably with Avatar on a limited scale.
This. Games are FINE graphically. We've gotten to the point where most animation is at least playable. We should be pushing story and gameplay innovation not better graphics hardware.StBishop said:
The wii gave us motion controls to make up for it's games looking like arse.
Now to compare with movie quality graphics? I think all nintendo fans may have a sex robot coming their way.
Now to compare with movie quality graphics? I think all nintendo fans may have a sex robot coming their way.