Xbox ONE - "xbox on" voive command only available in 5 markets at launch

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SSJBlastoise

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Yeah, this is really strange. I don't understand what could possibly be the problem with voice activation in the other 5 countries that are going to have voice commands.

I mean, is it really hard to code the "Xbox On" command in different languages or for different accents?

Actually, it's probably due to some legal bullshit in those countries, since Australia is on the list.
I think you may be right. The example given below is not really comparable to the Xbox One either.

Anthony Corrigan said:
Siri is voice activation and there is no issue with that
The reason these don't compare is because in order for the Xbox One to respond to "Xbox on" would mean the Xbox is always on and always listening which I can understand why the government may have an issue with it. The reason Siri is nothing like it is because that is something you have to actively use (press a button to bring it up) and it's not always listening for a command.

Dirty Hipsters said:
So unless they had some kind of problem with the xbox not recognizing totally borked Australian accents (which probably wouldn't be an issue considering it can understand borked British and American accents just fine), then it's probably a legal thing.
Unless they changed the software in such a dramatic way I highly doubt that. Mass Effect 3 (or it may have been the actual Kinect, not sure because it would sometimes choose a response when I didn't say anything so I unplugged it) gave you an option to choose English with either UK, USA or Aus as an option so Australian accents aren't really a problem, I'd imagine it is legal issues.
 

Anthony Corrigan

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Prove me wrong, if it was a legal issue it would be really easy to find an artical on it

Will even give you some help

http://www.abc.net.au
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/

http://www.theage.com.au/
http://www.smh.com.au/
http://www.news.com.au/

If there was a legal reason or a regulatory decision there would have been an artical on one of these at least but you wont find one
 

SSJBlastoise

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Anthony Corrigan said:
Prove me wrong, if it was a legal issue it would be really easy to find an artical on it

Will even give you some help

http://www.abc.net.au
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/

http://www.theage.com.au/
http://www.smh.com.au/
http://www.news.com.au/

If there was a legal reason or a regulatory decision there would have been an artical on one of these at least but you wont find one
Probably because it's not that big an issue to those sites? Do any of them even mention the Xbox One not having this feature? I had a quick search of those website and the last articles on the Xbox one were over a month old so it seems they barely even care about the damn thing. Also, a quick tip, The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald are run by the same company so the articles are the same.

What other issue would it be then if it's not some kind of legal difficulty?
 

Anthony Corrigan

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SSJBlastoise said:
Anthony Corrigan said:
Prove me wrong, if it was a legal issue it would be really easy to find an artical on it

Will even give you some help

http://www.abc.net.au
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/

http://www.theage.com.au/
http://www.smh.com.au/
http://www.news.com.au/

If there was a legal reason or a regulatory decision there would have been an artical on one of these at least but you wont find one
Probably because it's not that big an issue to those sites? Do any of them even mention the Xbox One not having this feature? I had a quick search of those website and the last articles on the Xbox one were over a month old so it seems they barely even care about the damn thing. Also, a quick tip, The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald are run by the same company so the articles are the same.

What other issue would it be then if it's not some kind of legal difficulty?
WOW,never thought people like that existed outside the conspiracy theory nuts. Lack of proof is not proof of something no matter how much Bush wanted it otherwise and the same exists here too. If you cant find a single mention of something its probably not true

I can find plenty of articals about it not working but NONE about it being caused by "legal issues" and no one here has put up any either therefore by Occam's razor the most likely solution is that the issue is with Microcrap, not regulation

for example some articals on the issue

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/08/xbox-one-voice-commands-wont-work-at-launch-for-everyone/
http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/29/xbox-one-voice-commands-not-available-in-all-markets-on-release-date/
This one even explains the real reason
http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/27/xbox-one-console-delays-explained-voice-control-localisation-is-key-issue-says-penello/
http://au.gamespot.com/news/australia-to-get-limited-xbox-one-voice-controls-at-launch-6413966
 

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Anthony Corrigan said:
Prove me wrong, if it was a legal issue it would be really easy to find an artical on it

Will even give you some help

http://www.abc.net.au
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/

http://www.theage.com.au/
http://www.smh.com.au/
http://www.news.com.au/

If there was a legal reason or a regulatory decision there would have been an artical on one of these at least but you wont find one
You mean articles like this?
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/-Xbox-One-Kinect-Surveillance-Device-Says-Australia-Civil-Liberty-Director-56126.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/xbox-one-kinect-privacy-issues-2013-5
http://games.ninemsn.com.au/news/privacy-breach-xbox-one-a-twisted-nightmare
Apparently the Australian Civil Liberties Director may not be convinced.

"In Australia, the Kinect's always-on nature may lead to unexpected regulation. Tim Vines, a director at Civil Liberties Australia, warned that the new Kinect could be considered a surveillance device under Australian law. Here's what he told Australian gaming site GamesFix:

Microsoft's new Xbox meets the definition of a surveillance device under some Australian laws, so they need to be up front and tell customers whether anyone else can intercept their information or remotely access their device."
 

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Lil devils x said:
You mean articles like this?
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/-Xbox-One-Kinect-Surveillance-Device-Says-Australia-Civil-Liberty-Director-56126.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/xbox-one-kinect-privacy-issues-2013-5
http://games.ninemsn.com.au/news/privacy-breach-xbox-one-a-twisted-nightmare
Apparently the Australian Civil Liberties Director may not be convinced.

"In Australia, the Kinect's always-on nature may lead to unexpected regulation. Tim Vines, a director at Civil Liberties Australia, warned that the new Kinect could be considered a surveillance device under Australian law. Here's what he told Australian gaming site GamesFix:

Microsoft's new Xbox meets the definition of a surveillance device under some Australian laws, so they need to be up front and tell customers whether anyone else can intercept their information or remotely access their device."
I'll give Good Credit when good credit is due, well done Australia.
 

Anthony Corrigan

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Lil devils x said:
Anthony Corrigan said:
Prove me wrong, if it was a legal issue it would be really easy to find an artical on it

Will even give you some help

http://www.abc.net.au
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/

http://www.theage.com.au/
http://www.smh.com.au/
http://www.news.com.au/

If there was a legal reason or a regulatory decision there would have been an artical on one of these at least but you wont find one
You mean articles like this?
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/-Xbox-One-Kinect-Surveillance-Device-Says-Australia-Civil-Liberty-Director-56126.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/xbox-one-kinect-privacy-issues-2013-5
http://games.ninemsn.com.au/news/privacy-breach-xbox-one-a-twisted-nightmare
Apparently the Australian Civil Liberties Director may not be convinced.

"In Australia, the Kinect's always-on nature may lead to unexpected regulation. Tim Vines, a director at Civil Liberties Australia, warned that the new Kinect could be considered a surveillance device under Australian law. Here's what he told Australian gaming site GamesFix:

Microsoft's new Xbox meets the definition of a surveillance device under some Australian laws, so they need to be up front and tell customers whether anyone else can intercept their information or remotely access their device."
That refers to the whole thing not just the on\off feature though so if they were going to regulate that it wouldn't be voice command, it would be around how it could be used, what could be recorded, hell even if it can be sold at all
 

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"Only available in X countries at launch" is starting to become a running gag for the XBox One, isn't it?
 

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Anthony Corrigan said:
Lil devils x said:
Anthony Corrigan said:
Prove me wrong, if it was a legal issue it would be really easy to find an artical on it

Will even give you some help

http://www.abc.net.au
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/

http://www.theage.com.au/
http://www.smh.com.au/
http://www.news.com.au/

If there was a legal reason or a regulatory decision there would have been an artical on one of these at least but you wont find one
You mean articles like this?
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/-Xbox-One-Kinect-Surveillance-Device-Says-Australia-Civil-Liberty-Director-56126.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/xbox-one-kinect-privacy-issues-2013-5
http://games.ninemsn.com.au/news/privacy-breach-xbox-one-a-twisted-nightmare
Apparently the Australian Civil Liberties Director may not be convinced.

"In Australia, the Kinect's always-on nature may lead to unexpected regulation. Tim Vines, a director at Civil Liberties Australia, warned that the new Kinect could be considered a surveillance device under Australian law. Here's what he told Australian gaming site GamesFix:

Microsoft's new Xbox meets the definition of a surveillance device under some Australian laws, so they need to be up front and tell customers whether anyone else can intercept their information or remotely access their device."
That refers to the whole thing not just the on\off feature though so if they were going to regulate that it wouldn't be voice command, it would be around how it could be used, what could be recorded, hell even if it can be sold at all
From how I take that though is what he is saying with "In Australia, the Kinect's always-on nature may lead to unexpected regulation" and "whether anyone else can intercept their information or remotely access their device" is that there may not be current regulation that covers the Kinect, but that it is possible in the future. This may be before or after release. It also states with the "informing of consumers if their data can be intercepted or remotely accessed", that if something happens along the lines of consumers data information does get breached and accessed and the Kinect data gets out, Microsoft is going to have one hell of a suit on their hands. They could be sitting back and waiting for it to happen and go after the money first. Microsoft has painted a pretty big target on themselves with their bad press, so it is bound to happen eventually. Considering some of their executives have had their Xbox live accounts hacked already: http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/20/microsoft-xbox-live-accounts-hacked/
if the data on the Xbox one in connection to consumers accounts contains data from the Kinect as well, this can be a major problem for Microsoft down the road legally if this is being classified as a surveillance device, and that data winds up in the hands of people who were not supposed to have it due to negligence on Microsoft's part. He could just be laying the groundwork for civil/ criminal action down the road.
 

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TehCookie said:
I would love to set one to UK English so anyone who wanted to turn it on had to speak with an accent.
There is no such thing as UK english accent wise do you mean the queens english? (which hardly anyone speaks because it makes most people sound like a total tosser). The UK has a pretty diverse range of accents literally travel 10 or 20 miles or even much less in some cases and people sound totally different I live here and I have trouble understanding a few. My own accent is a hybrid part devonshire and part brummy for instance or at least I have come to believe anyway as when I am in worcester of birmingham people think I am from Devon and when I am in Devon people think I am from Brum.

OT:As for it not recognising the command I couldnt care less I always unplug my 360 when its not in use (why no off switch MS?) to save electricity and I would do the same if I got a Xbox One I mean I still have to pick up a controller to play and insert a game anyway unless I go mental and decide I want to play a downloaded kinnect game I suppose (which I cant because my rooms to small).

I am more concerned about there being another disaster like the RROD especially from the rumours that have been about and with MSs current track record I am erring on the side of caution this time (which they have admittedly made easier than usual for me to do).
 

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BlackJimmy said:
"Only available in X countries at launch" is starting to become a running gag for the XBox One, isn't it?
'Microsoft announces Xbox One controllers will only work in 17 countries at launch. "We hope that customers in other countries can take advantage of the other media experiences offered by the Xbox One and are not put off by the lack of controller support", a spokesman said.'

Distressingly, I don't think this will affect Microsoft hugely, as long as it works in America (still the major video game-purchasing market) then the only thing that will affect them is anything that affects American consumer rights; judging from some of the posts on here, plenty of people are still willing to purchase one.
 

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gyroscopeboy said:
http://au.ign.com/articles/2013/08/31/xbox-one-voice-commands-only-available-in-5-markets-at-launch [http://au.ign.com/articles/2013/08/31/xbox-one-voice-commands-only-available-in-5-markets-at-launch]
One of which ISN'T Australia.

This is turning into the mother of all failed launches.

Fuck you microsoft.

P.S Apologies if this was already posted..I did search for it.
Well the console doesn't has to fail over this but this looks like one of those MTV Made episodes where they try to make the school cutie into a rugby player.

Just see small failure after failure.. it tries to be a good console, it tries its best but sometimes it is complicated you know.

Yes I just said the xbox one looks like a 16-17 year old that is utterly cutely trying to be something it isn't and it comes with all the little failures. A shame really because under all those small failures it still is a game console. It still will play games and it still will be awesome like that. It is all the extra crap that just... ugh.

Look this isn't the dreamcast, now that is a failed launch as it comes! And a shame to the dreamcast actually is awesome. I think that the xbox one will be like a stuttering engine for the first year. As in sales and you know getting taken serious. Once it is has grown out of its 16-17 year old ackwardness it would be muchos better.

It is a very ackward console right now.
 

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Maximum Bert said:
TehCookie said:
I would love to set one to UK English so anyone who wanted to turn it on had to speak with an accent.
There is no such thing as UK english accent wise do you mean the queens english? (which hardly anyone speaks because it makes most people sound like a total tosser). The UK has a pretty diverse range of accents literally travel 10 or 20 miles or even much less in some cases and people sound totally different I live here and I have trouble understanding a few. My own accent is a hybrid part devonshire and part brummy for instance or at least I have come to believe anyway as when I am in worcester of birmingham people think I am from Devon and when I am in Devon people think I am from Brum.
There article calls it UK English, take it up with them. I don't know what specific accent they're programming it for, but if they separate UK and US it's probably not something local for me.
 

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So, microsoft cannot be bothered to code one single word into the kinect. Bravo.
 

Maximum Bert

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TehCookie said:
There article calls it UK English, take it up with them. I don't know what specific accent they're programming it for, but if they separate UK and US it's probably not something local for me.
Really I wonder how we will all have to speak in the UK to get it to work then probably cockney I wanna see someone with a thick lancashire accent try and get it to do anything :)

I dunno then but seriously if it works fine for all UK accents any American would have no problem activating it by speaking normally as well.