Xboxes may be banned In the US as well.

[godfist88]

well this sucks, what am i going to do if my Xbox kick the bucket? can't buy a new one. stupid patent BS. although my Xbox is over 3 years old and it still works, and it one the big white ones... so maybe i won't have to worry bout' it failing. meh... guess i'll have to wait and see.

 

[lacktheknack]

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmlmw4Xvl41qlnuwno1_400.gif

This is killing me inside. Isn't this the absolute epitome of patent trolling?

When patent reforms become highly demanded, and patent owners ask why, we can point at this.

 

[BreakfastMan]

This is stupid, software patents really need to go. I think there was recently a ruling in the UK that invalidates/diminishes them, but unfortunately nothing worldwide yet.

Damn straight. The whole "patent wars" thing is just insanely stupid. Helps nothing but the corporations bottom line.

 

[neverarine]

not gonna happen... just sayin... the U.S. looovess big buisness if their part corrupt even better! the gov aint gonna let some rich money making system get put down,

now if it was a small buisness.......

 

[daveman247]

ok.... Is motorola running out of money or something? Or did they JUST realise whats goes on inside these xbox thingies

 

[loc978]

Despite all of the perfectly valid arguments against it, there's a vindictive little Microsoft-hater inside me that really wants to see this happen. I guess I just want to watch the world burn.

Also, I think Motorola should make royalties of the use of H.264 when it's built into an OS or a piece of firmware. Condemning folks pirating Windows and then turning around and pirating a codec for use in their commercial product... is a pretty typical Microsoft move, really. Glad it's being contested this time.

 

[Aeonknight]

I tried to care, but i'm too busy not being american, playing Diablo 3 on my PC

Adorable.

I swear sometimes I wish SOPA passed, just as a big "fuck you" to the rest of the world.

 

[ultrabiome]

i hope some of you realize there is a different between copyrights and patents.

irrc, copyrights are about the rights on artistic work: books, movies, music, etc. copyrights last a long time (and some companies like Disney are trying to get them to hold forever).

patents are about particular pieces of technology: hardware, software, etc. patents last for a much shorter time, mainly to allow the person or company who invented the technology enough time to get a profit, but not so long to stifle innovation or allow the company to be a total dick to everyone else by not allowing use.

we're talking about the latter.

 

[MorganL4]

This is stupid, software patents really need to go. I think there was recently a ruling in the UK that invalidates/diminishes them, but unfortunately nothing worldwide yet.

If you put time and money into developing a piece of software, that people find useful, unless YOU decide to put it out there for free, you have every right to patent, and profit from it.... Otherwise the argument could be made that I should get Windows for free, or Skyrim... These various things that people have spent years developing would have to be free.

And before you make the argument " well somthing that is 1000 lines of code, versus 100,000,000 lines of code are two entirely different things... Not legally... case and point: http://www.actionbioscience.org/genomic/crg.html

according to that article, once they allowed a patent on a bacteria they could then patent a mouse.... so by extension, no patent on 1000 lines of code, then no patent on 1 million. If size and complexity don't matter with living organisms, then it CERTAINLY doesn't matter for computer code.

 

[MammothBlade]

This is starting to sound much too like a war on gaming... as much as I prefer PS3, the future of the games market is potentially at stake because of a stupid patent dispute and ham-fisted judges. Everyone who cares about gaming should stand behind Microsoft.

If this happens, I hope people boycott Motorola HARD.

 

[Esotera]

If you put time and money into developing a piece of software, that people find useful, unless YOU decide to put it out there for free, you have every right to patent, and profit from it.... Otherwise the argument could be made that I should get Windows for free, or Skyrim... These various things that people have spent years developing would have to be free.

And before you make the argument " well somthing that is 1000 lines of code, versus 100,000,000 lines of code are two entirely different things... Not legally... case and point: http://www.actionbioscience.org/genomic/crg.html

according to that article, once they allowed a patent on a bacteria they could then patent a mouse.... so by extension, no patent on 1000 lines of code, then no patent on 1 million. If size and complexity don't matter with living organisms, then it CERTAINLY doesn't matter for computer code.

Protecting a program that a company has written is entirely different from preventing other companies using similar algorithms in completely different software. If someone actually implements a method in code (say 30 lines) and another company mysteriously produces the same method, with exactly the same 30 lines, then they should be able to sue. If someone implements the same method, but does it without looking at the original, then they should be allowed to do so, as long as their program isn't replicating exactly the same functionality as the original.

Without getting much more technical, most software patents aren't on new or exciting ideas, and it's impossible to know which ones you're breaking as programmers often reach the same solution on a problem. The program itself is already protected, there's no need to copyright maths.

 

[The Funslinger]

Ever since I first saw Han Solo blast out of Mos Eisley in the Falcon, I've wanted to be a smuggler. Guess now I'll get my chance.

You just need a huge dark brown German Shepherd and call it Chewie.

In all seriousness, this is THE ULTIMATE bullshit.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

I tried to care, but i'm too busy not being american, playing Diablo 3 on my PC

Adorable.

I swear sometimes I wish SOPA passed, just as a big "fuck you" to the rest of the world.

I agree, I would love to see out problems spread to those that laugh at us just for being "Americunts". People don't understand that we're gamers just like them that don't like our mutual form of entertainment to be fucked with. But we're in the wrong for being American. Shoddy world we live in. :\

 

[Richardplex]

I tried to care, but i'm too busy not being american, playing Diablo 3 on my PC

Adorable.

I swear sometimes I wish SOPA passed, just as a big "fuck you" to the rest of the world.

I agree, I would love to see out problems spread to those that laugh at us just for being "Americunts". People don't understand that we're gamers just like them that don't like our mutual form of entertainment to be fucked with. But we're in the wrong for being American. :\

To be fair, it's not that people have problems with US citizens, it's that people have problem with the US as a power. If the US showed the world that yes, they actually do have the power to control the internet, or at least make life really uncomfortable if they really wanted, ala a SOPA like situation, us non americans aren't going to be hateful towards the citizens, it's going to be against those with power.

And come on, let's be realistic here. Americans laugh at everyone else's problems as often as we laugh at yours, the difference is, we get less of a chance to do it to you. So it's all concentrated in small bursts instead of being consistently spread out.

 

[Something Amyss]

I think you've got a pretty narrow view on the issue. If copyright had such a relatively short time limit, companies like Marvel, DC Comics, Nintendo and many other companies that rely on established characters and IPs would take a big hit to their profitability.

And?

No, seriously, and?

Further, why do they NEED to be able to rely on this? It actually stifles innovation, because they tend to rely on old fallbacks.

Besides, you're talking about companies that take away the IP rights of the authors. Why should I feel bad for them? Why should anyone? You accuse me of a narrow viewpoint, yet there is no real reason to feel sympathy. These are the exact industries that are creating a harmfulenvironment in the first place.

 

[Something Amyss]

ok.... Is motorola running out of money or something? Or did they JUST realise whats goes on inside these xbox thingies

We have no idea how long this has been going on.

 

[Freechoice]

While I agree copyright laws have gotten out of hand, I would go for up to the death of the author. I'm hoping on getting a book published in the future, and I think it would be rather tragic for someone to make a moderately successful piece when they're about 25, just to see it taken and rehashed and made much more successful and have to watch all that money flow into someone else's pocket (especially now with people saying the 10-20 year olds of today will probably be living easily into their 100s). Information does need to flow into the public domain, but authors and artists shouldn't have to bear witness to someone else making money off of their idea.

What you're concerned about is if you wrote something and you're in your 80's (from a proposed 56 years to get a profit) and someone does your idea better. Really, it's fair enough to want to make money off of work, but keeping information out of the public domain just so you can make money until the day you die is just as bad as it is now in principle.

As well, copyright law was redesigned to let corporations profit from the works of long dead authors (Walt Disney being the foremost example), not artists.

You're just being hopeful and greedy.

I tried to care, but i'm too busy not being american, playing Diablo 3 on my PC

Adorable.

I swear sometimes I wish SOPA passed, just as a big "fuck you" to the rest of the world.

I agree, I would love to see out problems spread to those that laugh at us just for being "Americunts". People don't understand that we're gamers just like them that don't like our mutual form of entertainment to be fucked with. But we're in the wrong for being American. Shoddy world we live in. :\

It's always the fucking Anglos that pull that shit too. Brits, Aussies, but not the Irish. Irish are pretty cool on the internet.

If you're from Ireland, good on ya.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

I tried to care, but i'm too busy not being american, playing Diablo 3 on my PC

Adorable.

I swear sometimes I wish SOPA passed, just as a big "fuck you" to the rest of the world.

I agree, I would love to see out problems spread to those that laugh at us just for being "Americunts". People don't understand that we're gamers just like them that don't like our mutual form of entertainment to be fucked with. But we're in the wrong for being American. :\

To be fair, it's not that people have problems with US citizens, it's that people have problem with the US as a power. If the US showed the world that yes, they actually do have the power to control the internet, or at least make life really uncomfortable if they really wanted, ala a SOPA like situation, us non americans aren't going to be hateful towards the citizens, it's going to be against those with power.

And come on, let's be realistic here. Americans laugh at everyone else's problems as often as we laugh at yours, the difference is, we get less of a chance to do it to you. So it's all concentrated in small bursts instead of being consistently spread out.

Why are we, the gamers that share the same thoughts and interests, being grouped with those that laugh at another country's expense? The people that do that I doubt are even concerned with games.

OT: I'll be buying all my Motorola products second hand from now on.