Xenomorphs - ruthless killing machines or just misunderstood?

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AgentNein said:
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If I'm not mistaken, the xenomorphs are actually genetically engineered weapons of a sort.
As in, they were deliberately created to be literal ruthless killing machines, going above and beyond the call for brutality that a simple beast struggling for survival would operate by.
Can we all just pretend that Prometheus never happened?
I'm pretty sure this was a thing a long time before Prometheus was even a shadow of a thought.
Hmm, I don't remember that in any of the movies pre Prometheus, but perhaps I've forgotten.
Pretty sure that was never stated but it was my pet theory from Aliens on. It simply didn't make any sense for an animal to be that deadly as a consequence of evolution - especially when they go into hybernation as soon as they've exterminated all other life in their area.
 

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Applying morality to the actions of the xenomorphs is like trying to apply morality to a wolf hunting and killing a deer. You just can't because there is no morality to apply, it is simply how the predator/prey relationship works. The only difference is that when it comes to the xenomorphs humans are the prey.
 

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I agree, the movie is called Alien for crying out loud, of course the alien is the protagonist. Just like Hans Gruber is the protagonist of Die Hard (he died, hard.). As well, all the Terminator wanted to do was kill all humans. Was that so wrong?
 

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That's what I liked about Alien over the other Alien films, they literally made it feel like it was more than just a dangerous animal. That's what I took away from it any way, because a good horror doesn't make the villain/creature something easy to kill and leaves certain pieces unexplained.

I wouldn't say the crew is to blame in any way since it's still dangerous to keep roaming around, they had to take action against it because they weren't sure it would attack them later or give them diseases. Also, I'm sure we would feel angry about a friend dying from any creature/alien, so it would be hard to be open to it.

I reckon the alien seemed a bit misunderstood but still too aggresive to accept since they actually striked first. Doesn't matter if it was just a face hugger, it's still first blood. And at the beginning where they were searching for the beacon, there was another alien sitting on a chair or something with a massive hole in it's chest. They seem more like a deadly plague that requires other life forms to expand their population. That's what I gathered after watching the first before the rest. It's funny, people say Aliens is alright story wise because it's a good movie, but I still reckon that movie turned the series into a shit direction first.
 

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I actually like the xenomorphs, i think there cute :D

they just need big hugs.
 

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Lieju said:
You'd need to look on how the xenomorphs act with each other.
Well, they certainly have problem solving skills, but they are not empathetic towards one another. In Alien 4, they gang up on one of their own and viciously slaughter it to use its acid blood to escape their cages. That's smart in a gruesome "for the greater good"-kind of way, but not really indicative of particularly social behaviour.

I think the comparison to soldier ants somebody made in this thread is kind of neat in that they clearly don't care about individual aliens' survival; they will throw lesser specimens in the line of fire and kill their own if they perceive it to be of overall benefit. They are calculating but without mercy towards every living thing, including themselves. The only possible exception might be the queens and their eggs, which would make sense as they are the only kinds of individuals necessary for survival of the species. Protecting them at the cost of losing loads of soldier and worker specimens makes sense.

Anyway, to add to this, there are a lot of indicators that xenomorphs are biologically designed weapons and that the ship they were first found in was actually a sort of bomber, a bomber carrying weapons of mass destruction, basically. The Space Jockey (the fossilized pilot they find there) being infested and killed was presumably an accident, like a bomb going off before it is at its destination. This is further supported by Prometheus, although I don't really think of that movie as canon too much. But it adds to it, I guess. Still, it's implied in the very first Alien movie already.

If you were to design a biological weapon like that, there is little reason to give it empathy. It does require some basic sense of self-preservation to avoid losing a lot of its effectiveness though (lest it pointlessly jump into holes and kill itself or something or enemy forces could figure out a single strategy that would always work against them; they need to be able to adapt to be useful), which would explain aliens' reaction to fire and other obvious threats. At the same time, they do view a lot of their forms as expendable, which is why they rushed quite a number of xenomorphs into the auto-turrets in Aliens (2) before ceasing the pointless assault (they couldn't know the guns were almost out of ammo, so the assault would actually have succeeded if they had kept it up a little longer): You wouldn't want to let their survival instinct overrule their main function, which is to be an expendable soldier, a weapon.

By the way, the OP puts a lot of emphasis on "survivor". Personally, I never interpreted that as a "poor, misunderstood, alone survivor, the last of its kind there" or something like that, but more as a description of how it is designed: Capable of withstanding most environmental threats, requiring little food or sleep, being rather single-minded in its hunt etc.. It's a survivor, i. e. a creature well designed for survival... in a combat zone, basically.
 

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They're perfectly understood as ruthless killing machines.

First they face-rape an unwilling human, then when the rape-baby is born it kills its mother and then it needs to kill something else to grow into a proper sized xeno.

When it is a full sized xeno it focuses on capturing more humans to drag in front of the face-rapers to die to rape-baby birth OR it just kills things.

Repeat until planet has no more mammals.
 

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Skeleon said:
Lieju said:
You'd need to look on how the xenomorphs act with each other.
Well, they certainly have problem solving skills, but they are not empathetic towards one another. In Alien 4, they gang up on one of their own and viciously slaughter it to use its acid blood to escape their cages. That's smart in a gruesome "for the greater good"-kind of way, but not really indicative of particularly social behaviour.
I would disagree with that. It's been a long time since I saw that movie, so I don't remember exactly how that scene went, but if they will work together to kill one of their own, it indicates social behaviour and hierarchy. They had a plan and acted it out, choosing the one being sacrificed. And sacrificing someone for the greater good doesn't mean they have no empathy. It's difficult to speculate on this kind of thing, but it's possible they'd view the sacrifice as something the sacrificed one wants. Humans are empathic, but have done horrible things and justified them with 'if they knew how it would help us, they would have agreed', or 'we are doing them a favor by killing them because this way they don't go to hell'.

I can see humans doing something similar. If you have humans in a situation where killing one would help others escape (especially if one person is someone others or the leader doesn't like)

BTW, ants are eusocial animals.
 

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AgentNein said:
And they believe that some birds learn how to use tools. Not just actions passed down through evolution, but actual no foolin' learning. I think most interesting actions by the aliens can be chalked up to either this, or just lazy writing.
They've done tests with crows where they'll put two in cages in sight of each other, and give each a test tube with food at the bottom. They then give one a length of wire and the other a length of wire bent into a tool, after the one with the straight wire sees that the tool can be used to get the food it will bend its wire into the same shape and use it.
 

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Lieju said:
I would disagree with that. It's been a long time since I saw that movie, so I don't remember exactly how that scene went, but if they will work together to kill one of their own, it indicates social behaviour and hierarchy. They had a plan and acted it out, choosing the one being sacrificed. And sacrificing someone for the greater good doesn't mean they have no empathy. It's difficult to speculate on this kind of thing, but it's possible they'd view the sacrifice as something the sacrificed one wants.
Especially regarding the last sentence: Do watch it again. It's hard to evaluate since most of their interactions are hissing, but it certainly doesn't seem like the creature in question wanted to be sacrificed. It fights back, hisses at them and is then ganged up on and torn apart. As for hierarchy, maybe, but I doubt it. All hierarchical behaviour I'm aware of is tied to the form of xenomorph in question (so the lesser creatures in Aliens (2) are used as cannon fodder, whereas the queen remains behind with the eggs, obviously), and the ones in that cage in Alien 4 were all of the same subtype. Obviously I couldn't tell you why they decided to kill it rather than another one, but frankly it didn't seem to be due to any particular reasoning. One of them had to be killed. Perhaps the animal that figured that fact out simply picked one of the others at random and the other ones, seeing what was happening, chimed in. At least that's how I interpreted it, but it's obviously hard to determine. But considering their basic self-preservation drive, it would make sense that whichever animal first planned it would choose one of the others and the remaining ones - not particularly desiring to be killed themselves - joined in rather than risk being attacked. But it's all mere guesswork anyway since we can't look into their heads and determine what they thought, what (if anything) they communicated among each other etc., so...
 

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Skeleon said:
it would make sense that whichever animal first planned it would choose one of the others and the remaining ones - not particularly desiring to be killed themselves - joined in rather than risk being attacked.
That's definitely social behaviour, then. They saw a conflict and picked a side. Their reason might have been self-preservation, but they chose to work together to achieve this.

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All hierarchical behaviour I'm aware of is tied to the form of xenomorph in question (so the lesser creatures in Aliens (2) are used as cannon fodder, whereas the queen remains behind with the eggs, obviously), and the ones in that cage in Alien 4 were all of the same subtype.
So, they are eusocial, then? (like ants)
Although, it doesn't make much sense they'd abandon their young. And that kind of behaviour limits their intelligence in general, because they don't have older members teaching them, all they have to go on are their instincts.

I haven't seen the later movies, even the ones I have seen, I have forgotten the details of, but how does rearing the young work, exactly? It would make sense if they'd usually capture their prey, use them to lay their eggs and take the hatched youngling to their group. Abandoning your young works against hieharchical structure.

Even if they were engineered to be like that, they still survived, and evolved further.

Caramel Frappe said:
.. Well actually in Aliens, one of them took a little girl and placed her in the hive so she could give birth to more xenomorphs.
Well, that makes sense.

It seems to me like an animal that originally was solitary and laid eggs and abandoned them, but evolved into an eusocial species.

Wereduck said:
It simply didn't make any sense for an animal to be that deadly as a consequence of evolution - especially when they go into hybernation as soon as they've exterminated all other life in their area.
I don't see anything in that that doesn't make sense from an evolutionary standpoint. Except that in general an animal could kill all other life.

AgentNein said:
And they believe that some birds learn how to use tools. Not just actions passed down through evolution, but actual no foolin' learning. I think most interesting actions by the aliens can be chalked up to either this, or just lazy writing.
Much more than just birds can learn things. Even spiders have been observed to learn, nothing complex, but they can remember things and change their behaviour.
 

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Lieju said:
So, they are eusocial, then? (like ants)
I think so. I guess that is social behaviour; I misused "social behaviour" to mean "empathic behaviour" earlier. They don't display any empathy including towards their own, but they do portray social behaviour; just nothing human- or mammal-like. They will protect the queen, but they don't care about non-spawning individuals from what I can tell. There is something along the lines of caring/motherly/child-like behaviour in Alien 4 (including caressing and the like), but that only happens with the human-alien hybrid[footnote]Kind of a misnomer considering all xenomorphs supposedly adapt some of the hosts' genetic material anyway; that's why the so-called Predaliens (xenomorphs spawned from Predator-hosts) have the Predator-like mouth structure; but you know which creature I mean, the fleshy alien monster thing...[/footnote]; so arguably that behaviour could be due to the mammal-aspects of that particular creature. I'm not aware of anything of the sort happening with the xenomorphs themselves.

Although, it doesn't make much sense they'd abandon their young.
Now, some of this stuff comes from additional sources (that are of questionable canon), but the "lesser creatures" didn't refer to young animals. To my understanding, the cannon fodder aliens in Aliens (2) are fully grown, they are just of a different type. Kind of like the differences between worker and soldier ants.
Or are you referring to leaving the hive behind? I'd imagine some animals remained there to help guard the queen and eggs, but we don't see that in the movie as it is focused on the marines' actions at the time.

And that kind of behaviour limits their intelligence in general, because they don't have older members teaching them, all they have to go on are their instincts.
Instincts and a rather outlandish concept: Genetic memory. Supposedly they can inherit some sort of memory from their queens. But no, they don't have older animals teach younger ones, to my knowledge.

I haven't seen the later movies, even the ones I have seen, I have forgotten the details of, but how does rearing the young work, exactly? It would make sense if they'd usually capture their prey, use them to lay their eggs and take the hatched youngling to their group. Abandoning your young works against hieharchical structure.
We first see that in Aliens (2), since there's no hive of any sort in Alien. They capture prey, stick them to their hive's wall and place eggs near them. When the facehugger hatches, it latches onto the victim, infects them and dies. The spawning chestburster (killing the host in the process) is the actual new member of the hive, the creature that will actually grow into a new xenomorph; the facehugger is just a vector, an impregnator. From there it gets hazy: We know that the chestburster grows in size, sheds its skin a couple of times doing so and then has it harden into the chitin-like armored shell. Presumably, they have to eat in order to grow in size, although we never actually see them eat, only kill. Since we never see chestbursters just running around looking for food and chestbursters aren't really seen outside of the hive, unless a facehugger somehow was taken away from the hive (like happened in the first movie), I'd assume that in a proper hive they will feed on the remains of the spawning victims in order to grow to their designated size and subtype. But this is speculation; again, I don't think we ever see the xenomorphs use their mouths to actually eat, nor do we see them eat the victims they killed. But where else is the additional mass supposed to come from as they grow into the various adult forms? Especially new queens would take tons of food, one would imagine.
 

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Desert Punk said:
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DoPo said:
I understand that. I'm not saying the crew had much choice in the matter either and neither am I saying that what they did was wrong, given the circumstances.

What I'm trying to say is that what the alien did wasn't strictly speaking 'wrong' either. There's a difference (to me at least) between killing because I'm programmed to or because I want to and killing because I'm trying to survive.

What I'm doing here is trying to challenge the notion of the alien being a programmed killing machine with no other purpose than to wipe out everything that moves.
I get the idea that you are putting forward that the alien is a survivor, does what it can to keep living and only attacked the humans cause it was threatened. You also put forward it had to kill in order to survive. This is not true, all animals have the fight or flight response. The Xenomorph has speed and agility over humans. The creature could of simply gone to the furthest reaches of the spaceship and hid from the humans. Thus surviving and not killing anyone (think of newt from aliens). Running and hiding is the most efficient way to survive (if you pick a good spot to start with) as you are not expending energy engaging in hand to claw combat.

But this is not what happened. The Xenomorph when consistently faced with fight or flight response, always chose to fight. This is what makes it a programed killing machine, it is programed to always pick the fight response and it makes light work at killing humans and has no remorse/feelings about it.

There is always a choice when it comes to killing something. (There is something odd about applying human/animal behaviors to creature that is supposed to be utterly alien to us and there is an argument to be had about validity of applying these behaviors to the Xenomorph)
 

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Skeleon said:
Although, it doesn't make much sense they'd abandon their young.
Now, some of this stuff comes from additional sources (that are of questionable canon), but the "lesser creatures" didn't refer to young animals. To my understanding, the cannon fodder aliens in Aliens (2) are fully grown, they are just of a different type. Kind of like the differences between worker and soldier ants.
Or are you referring to leaving the hive behind? I'd imagine some animals remained there to help guard the queen and eggs, but we don't see that in the movie as it is focused on the marines' actions at the time.
I meant their young that hatch outside the hive without any adults around.

I guess they could have some kind of 'homing instinct', so they'd seek out the hive, but then why send them out in the first place?
Skeleon said:
And that kind of behaviour limits their intelligence in general, because they don't have older members teaching them, all they have to go on are their instincts.
Instincts and a rather outlandish concept: Genetic memory. Supposedly they can inherit some sort of memory from their queens. But no, they don't have older animals teach younger ones, to my knowledge.
This 'teaching' could be just the young ones following what the older ones do, and learning by example. If there is social contact, they are learning by example.

Skeleon said:
When the facehugger hatches, it latches onto the victim, infects them and dies. The spawning chestburster (killing the host in the process) is the actual new member of the hive, the creature that will actually grow into a new xenomorph; the facehugger is just a vector, an impregnator.
Why have facehuggers at all? I never understood that. They seem like a waste, why not have just the chestburster dig directly into the victim? Or lay eggs into the animal you use to grow the eggs? That's what animals like wasps that breed like that do.

If the facehuggers are engineered, then why?
If they naturally evolved, what are they an adaptation for? It's possible they originally were an adaptation for something else, and now just a remnant.
 

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Lieju said:
...but then why send them out in the first place?
I don't think they do.
Again, in Aliens (2) they brought the victims into the hive.
In Alien, no hive existed and it was the humans who took Cain back into their ship. If they hadn't done that, the chestburster would've spawned pretty close to the egg, where Cain had fallen.
Similarly, in Alien 4 the chestburster spawned far away from the hive only because the victim wasn't restrained as they normally are; he wasn't stuck to the hive's wall since he was artifically infected by the scientists; he could move around, which would've been impossible in a hive like the one in Aliens (2).

The only time when they are sent out normally would presumably be when the eggs are first deployed by the Space Jockeys. After that, the xenomorphs will establish a hive and drag victims there.

Young xenomorphs appear to hatch outside the hive by accident rather than by design (apart from the first batch that would spawn when the eggs are first deployed before a hive is even established of course).

This 'teaching' could be just the young ones following what the older ones do, and learning by example. If there is social contact, they are learning by example.
It could be, but we never see that actually happening, at least as far as I'm aware.

Why have facehuggers at all? I never understood that. They seem like a waste, why not have just the chestburster dig directly into the victim? Or lay eggs into the animal you use to grow the eggs? That's what animals like wasps that breed like that do.
Heh, I think that's where the whole meta-aspect of it comes in. Outside the universe, the idea was apparently to create what is basically a "face-raping" monster. Most of the xenomorph-stuff is quite sexual, at least according to some interpretations; like the shape of the xenomorphs' heads. H. R. Giger is apparently known for that kind of style.

If the facehuggers are engineered, then why?
If they naturally evolved, what are they an adaptation for? It's possible they originally were an adaptation for something else, and now just a remnant.
I'm not sure why they would've been engineered like that. Maybe it's just - resource- and nutrient-wise - cheaper to create a carrier, a vector, that brings the actual weapon into a nutrient-rich environment: A host.
Although one could argue that if that's the consideration, then why not just engineer eggs that can hold more nutrients directly?
Another idea might be that facehuggers at least have the capability of moving around and infiltrating enemy strongholds rather than having to plant the eggs directly where the enemy is?

But honestly, I dunno whether this is ever explained anywhere.
A lot of the xenomorphs' biology, lifecycle and motivation are left intentionally vague so that it remains a suitably alien creature. And much of the additional information about them is from sources of questionable canon-status (like AvP books, games, movies and other "extended universe"- and "crossover"-stuff). *shrug*
 

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Johny_X2 said:
I've gotta say that's a pretty silly way to look at things, silly as in humorous. It's essentially the same type of argument the Wolf gives in the childrens book that tells the Wolf's side of the story in the fable of the 3 Little Pigs. "I wasn't going around blowing down houses and gobbling up piggies. No, I was trying to bake a cake for my dear sweet grandmother but I needed to borrow some sugar. I had a mighty bad cold at the time, prone to big sneezes. And a couple of my sneezes knocked down a couple houses. It'd be a waste to leave a half-dead pig laying in a pile of rubble so I gobbled him up."

The point is that you lack context. Taken purely from the first film, you can kinda make the argument that you are: that the Alien is just doing what it does to survive. But you have to think of the Alien life cycle. As you mention, it's very birth requires that a life be sacrificed. It's birth ends with the death of something else. It's an apex predator, most assuredly a carnivore. It has no interest in talking about peace, sorting out some misunderstanding that they could all laugh about later "Yeah, sorry about popping out of that first guy. But ya know, he shouldn't have got so close to my egg. Can we just put this behind us and move on with our friendship?"

Again, you lack context, but this is hinted at in the first movie. The entire reason that Weyland-Yutani Corp. wants to get their hands on one of these things is so they can breed them and start making them into biological weapons. They didn't want to capture and study them because of their marvelous social skills and good manners.

According to lore established in Aliens vs Predator 2 for the PC, an alien drone in the absence of a queen will go into hibernation and begin molting. It's exoskeleton becomes much harder as it goes through a type of mutation that ultimate gives rise to a Praetorian-class Alien. If one of these survives long enough (and if a queen still has yet to rise) then it will eventually morph into a new queen. This is how new hives are established. One piece of lore that the series has always held onto is the fact that if a hive were to be established on Earth, it'd essentially be the end of the world. The Xenomorphs are far too cunning, reproduce far too quickly to be put down if they're allowed to establish a foothold. Based on this lore, the reason the Alien goes into survival mode is the instinctive drive for it to molt into a new queen and establish a new hive...obviously it can't do this once it's dead. And that brings up the notion that you lack context for: a full-blown infestation.

What it comes down to is that, since you haven't seen the other films, you're rooting for what you see as the underdog. 1 Xeno vs a group of mean, nasty humans. Well consider this: the alien is more than adapt at hiding and stealth. If it didn't want to be found, didn't want to kill, it very easily could have avoided the crew on that ship. If you watch Aliens (second movie in the series) it will become clear that by slaughtering everyone in sight, they're just doing what Xenomorphs do. Anything that can be captured is taken to the hive for a good ol' face-hugging (which leads to death), anything that fights back becomes food (which leads to death as well). It's just their lifecycle, they're an insectoid race, after all. When a hive is present, the Xenomorphs will actually launch raids, the way ants in a forest march en-mass to scour the forest floor for food to bring back to their ant-hill, so too does a Xeno hive vacate en-mass to bring more bodies back for food and implantation.

It was a unique thought you had, but like I said: it just lacked context. Trust me, Aliens were specifically designed by whoever thought them up to be an unstoppable horde of death and terror.

Edit: In short, watch the 2nd movie and tell me if you think your theory still holds water. :p
 

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Johny_X2 said:
I've gotta say that's a pretty silly way to look at things, silly as in humorous. It's essentially the same type of argument the Wolf gives in the childrens book that tells the Wolf's side of the story in the fable of the 3 Little Pigs. "I wasn't going around blowing down houses and gobbling up piggies. No, I was trying to bake a cake for my dear sweet grandmother but I needed to borrow some sugar. I had a mighty bad cold at the time, prone to big sneezes. And a couple of my sneezes knocked down a couple houses. It'd be a waste to leave a half-dead pig laying in a pile of rubble so I gobbled him up."

The point is that you lack context. Taken purely from the first film, you can kinda make the argument that you are: that the Alien is just doing what it does to survive. But you have to think of the Alien life cycle. As you mention, it's very birth requires that a life be sacrificed. It's birth ends with the death of something else. It's an apex predator, most assuredly a carnivore. It has no interest in talking about peace, sorting out some misunderstanding that they could all laugh about later "Yeah, sorry about popping out of that first guy. But ya know, he shouldn't have got so close to my egg. Can we just put this behind us and move on with our friendship?"

Again, you lack context, but this is hinted at in the first movie. The entire reason that Weyland-Yutani Corp. wants to get their hands on one of these things is so they can breed them and start making them into biological weapons. They didn't want to capture and study them because of their marvelous social skills and good manners.

According to lore established in Aliens vs Predator 2 for the PC, an alien drone in the absence of a queen will go into hibernation and begin molting. It's exoskeleton becomes much harder as it goes through a type of mutation that ultimate gives rise to a Praetorian-class Alien. If one of these survives long enough (and if a queen still has yet to rise) then it will eventually morph into a new queen. This is how new hives are established. One piece of lore that the series has always held onto is the fact that if a hive were to be established on Earth, it'd essentially be the end of the world. The Xenomorphs are far too cunning, reproduce far too quickly to be put down if they're allowed to establish a foothold. Based on this lore, the reason the Alien goes into survival mode is the instinctive drive for it to molt into a new queen and establish a new hive...obviously it can't do this once it's dead. And that brings up the notion that you lack context for: a full-blown infestation.

What it comes down to is that, since you haven't seen the other films, you're rooting for what you see as the underdog. 1 Xeno vs a group of mean, nasty humans. Well consider this: the alien is more than adapt at hiding and stealth. If it didn't want to be found, didn't want to kill, it very easily could have avoided the crew on that ship. If you watch Aliens (second movie in the series) it will become clear that by slaughtering everyone in sight, they're just doing what Xenomorphs do. Anything that can be captured is taken to the hive for a good ol' face-hugging (which leads to death), anything that fights back becomes food (which leads to death as well). It's just their lifecycle, they're an insectoid race, after all. When a hive is present, the Xenomorphs will actually launch raids, the way ants in a forest march en-mass to scour the forest floor for food to bring back to their ant-hill, so too does a Xeno hive vacate en-mass to bring more bodies back for food and implantation.

It was a unique thought you had, but like I said: it just lacked context. Trust me, Aliens were specifically designed by whoever thought them up to be an unstoppable horde of death and terror.

Edit: In short, watch the 2nd movie and tell me if you think your theory still holds water. :p

Yes, I do lack context and I'm fairly certain that my entire theory will crumble to dust after watching the rest of the movies, however, based on the first movie alone, it's actually quite simple to make that assumption and back it up. And yes, I kind of came up with the idea just for the kicks. It's interesting how everyone takes he topic so seriously though. I just wanted to see what it would be like to look at the xenomorph from the first film through a different set of spectacles.
 

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Johny_X2 said:
Yes, I do lack context and I'm fairly certain that my entire theory will crumble to dust after watching the rest of the movies, however, based on the first movie alone, it's actually quite simple to make that assumption and back it up. And yes, I kind of came up with the idea just for the kicks. It's interesting how everyone takes he topic so seriously though. I just wanted to see what it would be like to look at the xenomorph from the first film through a different set of spectacles.
You were bound to get a strong reaction seeing as how you posed a statement that was contrary to what is essentially established canon. But really Xenomorphs are what they are, there really aren't very many ways you can look at them. Everything about their lifecycle requires killing other species, they're apex predatosr.

Still, it's funny to think of the Xenomorph from the first movie as just being an innocent animal trying to survive in a hostile environment.