Yahtzee Wrote a Book
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Very creative and witty use of sarcasm too. I can understand why you're so fond of Yahtzee.Venatio said:
Oh this is too much. I suddenly understand why Yahtzee is so popular.Venatio said:
With your deft grasp of repetition used for humour I can understand why you're so fond of Yahtzee.
Haha, I was referencing the little messages he places after his Zero Punctuation videos. Amazon is a website where things can be purchased. (I think)OANST said:
I am genuinely sorry. We fall on opposite sides of the battlefield, purely because you like Yahtzee, and I have so much untempered hate for him it automatically makes me judge everyone who likes him, perhaps it's snobbish to do so, sure, but I judge all the same.Venatio said:
I'm sure you're lovely, really.
But you must appreciate how for someone coming here looking for validation as to why this man of questionable talent can be so popular, and then have one of his most vocal defenders misunderstand about 5 jokes in quick succession and miss out on some pretty blatant irony somewhat validates my opinion a little?
I think it does pretty well, I actually like the symbolism of the whole sentence, both the characteristics of the suns situation and "mood", tells that it's getting late. It creates atmosphere, It's funny I've just read this other book which also colorfully described a sunset. "As the sun sets - a ball of molten iron sinking into the chilling waters of the Diamond Sea - you catch sight of Valsinore at long last". Sure you could describe that as simply, at the sun sets, you see valsinore, but that would be plain and boring.MrSpectabular said:
Well what is good writing really, I didn't know that there was a standard, and usually people are very at odds about what that standard is.
The paper you link to, George Orwell seems to focus completely on expressing oneself clearly, when the goal is clarity, not entertainment or creative ways of expressing a setting. Indeed George Orwell talks specifically about the political use of the language, and how better clarity can be achieved by not over expressing yourself, when you need people to understand you as best as possible.
In Yahtzees description of the sunset, he starts by saying that the day is wearing thin, effectively making sure that the reader knows already from this what 'time' of day it is, and then proceeds to 'paint' a picture of it, or set the mood. Like a descriptive "!". If we apply George Orwells guidelines, even though they aren't IMO meant to be applied to this form of writing, Yahtzee wouldn't even be able to write that the day is wearing thin, because this is a metaphor, and someone could misunderstand it, it would lack precision.
I didn't find it particularly amateurish, at least it wasn't boring, but than again I find that the terms, amateurish writing and good writing to blend together a little since given the lack of concrete examples.
No not really, I mean he describes it as flamboyant, as in having the characteristics that flamboyant covers.OANST said:
Hey guys, we should stop this squabbling. It's not really fair to the Escapist or Yahtzee to be squabbling and arguing with each other and hijacking this thread, we should keep the comments purely about the sample chapter.
It sucks.
It sucks.
I don't think this will rock the world, but I might pick it up at a library or buy it if it's cheap. To me it's like finding an amusing post, but the post goes on for a few hundred pages and you can carry it around with you. It also gets better the more you read into it. I really liked how the adventurers from early on were recycled for the argument with the mayor. I don't know why but I like little details that interlock the story.
(Hurry for above average filler novels! You can read them again, and again, and again, and still be entertained! It sure beats Redwall.)
(Hurry for above average filler novels! You can read them again, and again, and again, and still be entertained! It sure beats Redwall.)
I agree with you. I imagine those first two pages will make more sense after reading the first chapter since they seam a little more plot centered.Mr. Win said:
You are an anti-fanboy. You said it yourself: you have issues with Yahtzee, to the point of registering here to post your rant. Thus, your opinion is worth exactly the same as a fanboy's opinion.MrSpectabular said:
As for my opinion, I'm thinking about buying it. I like Pratchett and Adams, and although what is shown here could be better written, it is quite readable. Let's see how the rest of the text fares.
In a striking way, or colorful and brilliant way. The point isn't how it is flamboyant, it's that what it says. That the sign is flamboyant, I suspect is simply pointed out because it makes the fact that Johns failure to express himself more clearly where they needed to go. Is even more of a failure, given that a flashy sign tells anyone that there are more inns, that in fact it's a street dedicated to inns. So it would be obvious (because of the street name given by the flamboyant sign) to anyone, that if you were to guide someone to one of those inns, simply telling them to meet at the inn, is insanely inadequate.OANST said:
edit: I think John needs a talk with George Orwell
But that doesn't answer the question of what is flamboyant about it. Is it curved in a flame like pattern? What? What is it?DayDark said:In a striking way, or colorful and brilliant way. The point isn't how it is flamboyant, it's that what it says. That the sign is flamboyant, I suspect is simply pointed out because it makes the fact that Johns failure to express himself more clearly where they needed to go. Is even more of a failure, given that a flashy sign tells anyone that there are more inns, that in fact it's a street dedicated to inns. So it would be obvious (because of the street name given by the flamboyant sign) to anyone, that if you were to guide someone to one of those inns, simply telling them to meet at the inn, is insanely inadequate.OANST said:
edit: I think John needs a talk with George Orwell
You aren't allowed to say this anymore, no one's allowed to say this anymore, ever. Please. ):>ResiEvalJohn said: