Yesterday I saw Suicide Squad...and it was Good...[MAJOR SPOILERS]

[SweetShark]

...But only just good. Not very good or anything else. Just Good.
First of a big disclaimer here: Nearly all the characters in the film I saw with the exceptions Batman, Joker, Harley and maybe Deadshot, are unknown to me. So If I say I like/hate a specific character like Boomerang or Rick Flag for reasons, don't judge me for who they are in the comics. Thank you.
With that said, I will start by saying my opinion for all the major characters of the film and then the good and the bad points of the film in general. Lets Begin:

Characters

DeadShot
Deadshot is the "man", the main character we follow and root for having of course the biggest character development in the film also. Not an origin story mind you, but a spark of humanity from his past so we can like him enough even if we know...well, he is a bloody assassin for hire. Will Smith potraited Deadshot very well from the few comics I read about him [the comics which also Bane was on it], with of course some jokes he "throw" just for the laugh. Some hits some don't...
My favourite moments with only him was of course when he take action. Man the scene who single handled the Lovecraftian Horde was AWESOME!!! Hope for a sequel with Deadspot in more scenes like that.
Also not any kind of problem with the obvious "Deadshot is White in the Comics" subject.

Harley Quinn
Ah Harley, Harley, Harley...the one I really looking foward to see in the movie. And she didn't disappoint at all. At first I thought she would be unbearable being the insane/batsh*t[sorry] character of the group and do random for lol, but surprisingly it works. I think is because we know all the main cast are bad guys and only few of them are serious, Harley built on it and make it more enjoyable. With that said, Harley is a very tragic characters in reality, falling in love with another insane character [Joker] and expecting to have a normal life [base the desire she had cause of Enchantress magic]. Also she had a very good solid speech in the Bar Scene. Good stuffs
Sexy as much as is needed for a PG-f*cking 13 movie and her scene always delightful.

El Diablo
One word for this character: Respect.
I really like a character who clearly even if Amanda Waller and similar people think he is a bad guy, in reality he just want to forget his past and be a pacifist. The reason for being a pacifist is justify, so it doesn't fell something forced for us to swallow. At first he doesn't do a lot in the movie, but when he do, oh boy he get serious. If he can make Deadshot a little afraid, then as I said, respect for that also. Especially in the end which he become this GIANT FLAMING SKELETON!!!! HARD!!! CORE!!!!!


Captain Boomerang
The Brony of the group. I can't believe I say this, but indeed we see have a villain who love carring around a little doll unicorn with him. Unceccessery? Sure. Funny? Hell yeah!
But here is the thing: Even if he is fan of My Little Pony [I guess?], he doesn't share the same ideas of the show. He LOVE to betray his associates for his personal gain [at least in the beggining]. My favourite example is of course when he tricked Slipknot to see if indeed the squad have mini-bombs to their necks.

Croc
A well-know villain in the Batman the Animated series, not so much in the comics for me. But I liked him being the one-liner Brute of the team. My favourite moment was when he said he is beautiful even if clearly the others thinks he is not. BECAUSE HE IS GOD DAMMIT!!!! I AM FABULOUS B*CHES!!!!!
You know, it is really sad when Croc have more personality with just few lines than Superman from the BvS movie....

Rick Flag
Now, I know most of you will say is bland as f*ck....and you are right. However he is THE necessary bland character to make the movie carry on. The one who must be "normal" to make the other obviously "we don't give a f*ck" team members to continue their mission to save the world. He is also bland so our main focus is only to the bad guys. Not in a random soldier Call of Duty dude....
Sadly the Love between him and the Enchantress is also bland, so he is a meh for me.

Kitana
Sadly even I said Rick Flag is a necessary bland character, Kitana shouldn't had been also bland. He is literally a Japanese ninja/samurai/whatever assassin who carry a sword who TRAP THE SOULS OF THE ONE SHE KILLED. Btw, SHE ALSO CARRIES THE SOUL OF HER HUSBAND WITH HER!!!! How cool is that?
Not cool enough it seems because she is nearly no existant in the movie... no character built, no a lot of screen time. Nothing. I hope to make her more important in the sequel.

Slipknot
...............Good for him being the sacrifice to see if indeed they have bombs in their necks?
......most pointless character ever. Sure, he served to make C. Boomerang's characterisation more strong [aka. being an betraying assh*le], but couldn't he had at least more screentime and maybe a introduction to make us care about him? It was SO obvious he will die!

The Enchantress
Last but not least from the Suicide Squad.....wait, she was never member of the squad, wasn't she? At first I thought like the rest of the people she will be indeed a member with all this advertisment and posters, etc, etc, but by my surprise she is the villain of the movie. Not a big shock really when you take into account she is literally a ELDER GOD WHO CONTROL PEOPLE BY TURNING THEM INTO BLACK HUMANOID LOVECRAFTIAN BEINGS WHO CAN USE GUNS!!!!!! F*CK F*CK F*CK!!!! SO METAL!!!!
*Hem*, anyway The Enchantress visually at first she is so great! As I said about the Marvel movies, most of them are awesome because they use visual and motion aspects of the films to present something different and unique from what we see in the comics [like in Ant-Man or the new Dr. Strange]. The Enchantress is the visual beauty done right. Something entirely different to make the movie FAR more interesting. And the tranformation scene with the hand. OH MY GOD that was AWESOME and I want to see it again in the future!!!!
As a character she is alright for a villain and as I said she is good looking at first......and then she turn into her real form...I guess she look "weird" cause, well, she is a lovecraftian goddess [her crown have EYES, the only thing I like about the design], but I don't like when she....break dance while she work in her spell....
Gladly for some reason she transform into her dirty version to fight, and I am ok with that.

Amanda Waller
Oh my, Oh my, Oh my.....Even if Rick Flag present her as a God to the Suicide Squad, she is the Devil. This woman is Evil. When I was reading the comics I didn't cared so much for her at first, but in the movie? DDAAAAAAAAAMN!!! She is mean, manipulative with the infinitive informations she have, cold bloodied by just killing in a matter of second her own people to keep her operation a secret, smart as f*ck......well, not so smart, but I need to explain this later why...

Joker
In a weird way even if I didn't saw a lot of him in the whole movie, I have SO many things to talk about. At first I thought he will be a major character in the movie....and he still is, but only into the background and in the flashbacks, but he is maybe in 8-9 scenes [I tried to count them]. However this was not a problem because I like him. Not like crazy mind you. But enough for to want him to be a villain in Ben Affleck's Batman movie. At first his Gangsta transformation of Joker wasn't appealing to me at first, but it grew on me.
The different kind of costumes of his gang members were wearing helped greatly. Also the costume members had a weird personality on them. Like, seeing the guy who wearing a full-boby suit of a Panda two times in the movie, it give me a reason to watch a future Batman movie with the hope seeing Batman himself fighting teh Panda. Crazy I know!
But my favourite part of Joker is his LOVE for Harley Quinn. At first he seems he just wanted to have fun seeing her just as his toy or a part of his plan to lure Batman. like in the cartoons and comics. Not in this version of him. He really like her. We can clearly see it in some few but sweet scenes when they were together or even alone. Seeing a version of Joker who want to murder a lot of people, hijack the bomb application and save her using a helicopter AND free her in the end by wearing his unique JOKER-SWAT costume......I LOVE IT and it is a delightful change.

Batman
I am Batman. The Best version of Batman in the movies, that is.

*Because I am tired...REAL tired writing all this text...I will write the good anf bad later. Bye!*

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

I thought it was a decent adaptation of the characters that was heavily burdened by a crappy villain (Enchantress) and some atrocious editing in the first act.

If Joker had been the primary villain - trying to kill Waller and free Harley - and if the editing hadn't been outsourced to the guys who made the fricking trailer, it would've been a lot better.

Ultimately, I went "well, that wasn't as bad as I expected, but it wasn't great either." Solid 5/10.

 

[maninahat]

The first half was incoherent and boring, the second half was just boring. It's the single worst movie I have seen this year, and I saw Batman v Superman.

 

[Hawki]

I saw it. It was fine. Good first act, bit tedious second act, third act comes somewhere in the middle. Better than BvS and Deadpool, not quite as good as Civil War. It fits the spectrum of "average," somewhere in the vague middle of the 30-plus films I've seen this year.

 

[Fox12]

I liked it more then any of the other Marvel or DC films in the last few years. The plot made way more sense then the shitshow that was Civil War, and the characters were way more likeable then the ones in BvS. I liked the lack of CG, and the dark humor was pretty good. I'd rather see a spinoff movie with these characters then the main line ones. Does anyone really care about Aquaman?

The editing was a little weird in the first half, but they made it work. I ended up liking the Joker a lot. The villain was somewhat boring, but she worked. I kind of liked the Lovecraftian aspect of her character.

 

[King Billi]

I honestly thought it was a very shoddily put together film though It seems the kind of movie that will stand and endure thanks to the charisma of its characters.

I'm actually really curious how different this film could have been with a re-edit though as even just based off of its trailers there is a lot of scenes that are missing or which seemed like they were meant to play out differently than they did.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I don't think it's a bad movie, just mediocre and incredibly disappointing by the standards set up by the trailer.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

I liked it more then any of the other Marvel or DC films in the last few years. The plot made way more sense then the shitshow that was Civil War, and the characters were way more likeable then the ones in BvS. I liked the lack of CG, and the dark humor was pretty good. I'd rather see a spinoff movie with these characters then the main line ones. Does anyone really care about Aquaman?

The editing was a little weird in the first half, but they made it work. I ended up liking the Joker a lot. The villain was somewhat boring, but she worked. I kind of liked the Lovecraftian aspect of her character.

Lack of CG? I wonder if we were watching two completely different movies because it the final act was a CG eyesore. It was an awfully made film, not as bad as BvS but not good like Civil War.

 

[Comic Sans]

I went and saw it with a friend who is a big Harley Quinn fan, and we both felt incredibly underwhelmed. She thought it was just okay leaning on the negative side, I thought it was terrible. It was just dull. Despite the eclectic editing and pacing I actually rather liked the first third of the film. At least it was colorful and had style. Then as soon as they got to the city it all went downhill. Just a bunch of one note characters who for the most part get nothing in the way of development, walking through a burned city fighting faceless goons. It should have been called "Deadshot and Harley Quinn" rather than Suicide Squad since the rest of the squad except for Diablo get nothing to do except make one liners from time to time, and even Diablo only gets something to do in the last 20 minutes or so. Killer Croc, Flagg, Boomerang, and Katana did literally nothing the whole movie to justify their existence on the squad. Even the one bit that seemed important for Croc, the planting of the bomb underwater, was taken by some random soldier while we saw 2 seconds of Croc fighting goons. The movie had no idea what to do with it's characters. None of them except the aforementioned three got a single noteworthy awesome moment. That's an absolute crime in an ensemble action flick. Hell even the really weak Avengers 2 gave every character some cool scenes and more than like 3 lines each, everyone felt like they did something so fans of every character are satisfied.

Even beyond that, it was just dull to watch. The enemies were not noteworthy and did nothing interesting. The action scenes felt bog standard. Except for Deadshot decisively ending the first fight and Diablo turning into a monster nobody used their abilities in an interesting way, just standard slash/shoot. And it was really jarring that the enemies were immune to being riddled with bullets but suddenly die when slashed by a boomerang or hit with a bat. The plot was boring and uninteresting. Enchantress was cool but did nothing outside of her first appearance that was at all cool. Most of the characters got like 3 lines each. The pacing and editing was awful. The soundtrack was eclectic to the point of being distracting and feeling tryhard, attempting to force a mood that the movie itself wasn't supporting. If you really like Deadshot and Harley Quinn then you get your money's worth, but everything else was just a fucking mess. I would possibly call it worse than BvS, a movie I actively hated, because at least that one made me feel something. This was just a dull slog that should have been so much better

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I went in expecting it not to suck. That's it. I was initially annoyed they made Joker/Quinn actual lovers instead of an abusive relationship it should be, but then I remembered Batman killed a man in BvS.

Actually that fact? Made everything more palatable. The movie universe is an ElseWorld, well this is the world were Joker actually loves Harley in his own fucked up kind of way. Besides they got Waller pretty damn spot on, I didn't like her killing her own people because I feel it betrays the patriotism of the character, but close enough.... still feel she should of been played by a heavier actress.

I think the movie is really really dumb, and it clearly suffers from a hatchet editing job, but I also laughed quite a bit and really enjoyed myself watching it. It has some "so bad its good" moments like Diablo trying to have like an ordinary life with that stupid fucking tattoo of his, and Boomerang's obsession with that stuff unicorn that they NEVER EVER explain. Or why he leaves the group and comes back.

The villain doesn't get enough screen time, but I liked the concept of her, that shes this Eldritch Outer-dimensional God....but I have a bias towards thinking such things are cool.

For all it's flaws, I really feel this movie got right everything BvS did wrong: It let itself have a bit of fun with the source material and embrace some of the more fantastical elements. It's a stupid fun movie.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I thought it was a bad movie that could have been a good movie (not great, but pretty good) if it had just been edited differently.

In fact, I think that most of the characters are written quite well (at least what little writing there was for them), even if they aren't exactly like their comic book counterparts.

I will say I have huge problems with a lot of the visual choices they made.

Batman feels super out of place in every scene he's in. I'm actually convinced that Ben Affleck wasn't there for most of the filming and that the Batman in this movie is one of the stunt doubles, which is why he's almost always out of focus so you can't get a good look at him. Seriously, just look at the scene with Deadshot and his daughter, Batman is front and center in a large part of the scene, but then he's blurry almost the entire time. You know how when they're filming a movie and the costumes look really fake and rubbery until they add all the effects in post? Batman looks like they forgot to add the effects in post. Everything about the scenes he's in looks fake.

Deadshot is just Will Smith doing Will Smith.

Amanda Waller was good, but then again it's not exactly a difficult character to do in my opinion.

The Standout was definitely Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. Made the whole movie palatable.

Why does El Diablo have a skull tattoo on his face when he can just turn into Ghost Rider and have an ACTUAL SKULL FACE?

Why does Captain Boomerang just leave and come back with no explanation?

Why does Katana get the shaft the whole movie? Seriously, she does nothing, she doesn't have to be there for a single scene.

Enchantress's brother (does he even get to have a name?) doesn't get much characterization, and doesn't get to do much. He might as well have been one of her magical constructs.

The Killer Croc and the monster soldiers are ugly, and not in the good kind of scary ugly, I mean bad make-up "how do they think this actually looks decent for a multi-million dollar movie" kind of ugly. The Enchantress's army really just looks like they stuck some papier-m?ch? on people's heads and called it a day. Croc's head is too big for his body.

I'm entirely unconvinced when the director says that this is the cut of the movie he's happy with. I predict a "director's cut" of the movie to come out, just like with Batman v Superman which will fix a bunch of pacing issues with the movie and maybe add in more of the Joker scenes. And if that doesn't happen, well then David Ayer is kind of a hack in my book (and also Training Day is shit, come at me bro).

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

I'm afraid I'm rapidly turning into a person who will butt in and say "NO! It's not a good film. You enjoyed it, but that doesn't make it a good film. Two different things." In other words, a giant throbbing hairy sweaty asshole.

But yeah, it's not a good film. At all. There are many aspects to it which can be called objectively poor. It's the worst film I've seen this year, last year, and the year before that. Granted, I usually only go see well reviewed movies in theaters, but with the critical split of Suicide Squad I made an exception.

It's badly written, poorly paced, poorly told, shittily edited, overstuffed with characters, littered with pointless scenes, tonally inconsistent, devoid of character arc or development (save for Diablo), literally too dark in places visually, the marketing was blatant bait and switch (which I wouldn't even mention, but apparently retards who still get hyped by trailers bought into it), Joker was completely pointless and the worst on screen version of the character to boot, gives off an incredibly cynical corporate vibe, the plot is forced and stupid, the use of pop songs was absolutely wretched, and perhaps the worst aspect of it was how downright retarded it assumes its audience to be.

It's garbage, and the hordes of people who praise it only fill me with more contempt for the average moviegoing audience. But hey, if its success means we're not gonna get similar hatchet job with that standalone Batfleck movie, I can let it slide.

and also Training Day is shit, come at me bro).

Please do elaborate. Not that I'm defending Training Day as a transcendent masterpiece for the ages, but I'm always interested to hear people's reasons for opinions like this.

 

[DementedSheep]

I found it...meh. The only characters I gave any amount of fucks for were Dead Shot and El Diablo (and the later largely just because of the sad backstory). Most of the characters feel pointless. If Katana, Captain boomerang and Killer Croc weren't there would it have changed anything? unlike them Harley got decent screen time and some attempt at characterization but I don't like her character and that joker was cringe worthy.
The only scene I can really say I liked was the enchantress transformation scene with the hand (because that was creepy).

 

[Megalodon]

It's kinda funny. While I agree the film was reasonably good, I have to disagree on the 'why'. Deadshot was fine and dandy. It's Will Smith, unless his children are involved he can normally be relied on to be entertaining on screen. Captain Boomerang was actually one of the funniest characters in the film imo, though I don't necessarily buy the 'tricked Slipknot to see of they really have bombs' thing, he tried to run as well, and just got pinned to a wall by Kitana.

Waller was decent-ish. Though I really lost any goodwill towards her when she started gunning down her subordinates, and the final where she faces down the squad with the kill switch, Flag or Deadshot really should've just shot her in the head there.

Now for the bad. Joker and Harley. Joker just plain sucked. The character design was, and has always been atrocious, and he had neither the comedic touch of Romero and Nicholson, nor the psychotic presence of Nicholson and Ledger (or the magnetic voice of Hamill). He looked and sounds like some punk doing a bad Ledger-Joker impression. The there's Harley. Including the origin story was a mistake, there just wasn't enough time to establish and justify the extent the Joker gets his claws into her (though the Joker being crap doesn't help here). This was a story badly rushed and would've made more sense in a dedicated Joker/Harley film, all this one needed was 'Joker's Girlfriend, Really Crazy' as character set up. However, the main issue with her was just how hard she was pushed, she was clearly meant to be the breakout character everyone loved, but that seemed to backfire here (as it so often seems to when writers artificially decide on a 'breakout' character in an ensemble). She came off more annoying than amusing in many of her scenes, Deadshot and Boomerang's antics and snark felt far more natural and entertaining than her 'lol I'm crazy, find me funny/charming!' presentation. Not that she didn't have her moments, but she was nowhere near as entertaining as the film seemed to think.

 

[Zontar]

I've been on the fence about what to give it since I saw it. On the one hand I feel it's a 4/10 due to the outright terrible editing, incoherent plot and nonsensical pacing, but on the other hand it's better then Batman V Superman and I also gave that a 4/10 and don't think it's as bad as a 3/10. But suicide Squad is definitely not a 5/10 or above.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

Meh. The Script was mediocre at best, and that's before the editing room chainsword was taken to what little plot they had. The end result is less a scatter-shot plot, and more a Mary Shelley cadaver hacked together from the corpses of at least 3 different movies, 2 tv shows, and probably 6-10 short films.

 

[King Billi]

Why does Captain Boomerang just leave and come back with no explanation?

Boomerangs always come back.

Sorry I'll let myself out.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

I went in expecting it not to suck. That's it. I was initially annoyed they made Joker/Quinn actual lovers instead of an abusive relationship it should be, but then I remembered Batman killed a man in BvS.

He kills a couple dozen people, to be honest.

It's weird. When I was playing the Arkham games, they really emphasised the physical brutality of what Batman does to criminals. But I did a little self-defence training way back yesteryear, and they told me that if you crash a guy's head into a wall or the pavement and he doesn't get up after fifteen seconds, that man's dead.

Once you realise that, it really stretches disbelief to think that Batman could spend three decades thrashing the shit out of thugs and not accidentally give one of them an embolism or something.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I went in expecting it not to suck. That's it. I was initially annoyed they made Joker/Quinn actual lovers instead of an abusive relationship it should be, but then I remembered Batman killed a man in BvS.

He kills a couple dozen people, to be honest.

It's weird. When I was playing the Arkham games, they really emphasised the physical brutality of what Batman does to criminals. But I did a little self-defence training way back yesteryear, and they told me that if you crash a guy's head into a wall or the pavement and he doesn't get up after fifteen seconds, that man's dead.

Once you realise that, it really stretches disbelief to think that Batman could spend three decades thrashing the shit out of thugs and not accidentally give one of them an embolism or something.

I mean the thugs in the arkham games are all roided out dudes or guys in armor.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

I mean the thugs in the arkham games are all roided out dudes or guys in armor.

It shouldn't matter. If he beats them badly enough that they're unconscious for more than a minute or so - which he does all the time - there's a serious risk of them dying.

I mean, I can suspend my disbelief about it most of the time, but whenever the "thou shalt not kill" rule gets brought up in relation to Batman, I go "Weeeeee-lll...."