You Can't Be the Hero If You're the Rapist
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The common sense of the gaming world put ever so eloquently yet again. Now if we could just show this to Jack Thompson and his ilk maybe we could put a dent in their little quest for ban-hammer privileges
My opinion on this is that with all the time and effort we're putting into banning a game based around rape we probably could have prevented a few actual rapes ('evil prevails when good men fail to act' and such).
I understand what all the anti-game people are getting at but I personally think we could put our effort and resources somewhere that might actually yeild a more positive result than pissing off some sexually dissatisfied individuals somewhere (it's not like they can't find stuff like this elsewhere).
I understand what all the anti-game people are getting at but I personally think we could put our effort and resources somewhere that might actually yeild a more positive result than pissing off some sexually dissatisfied individuals somewhere (it's not like they can't find stuff like this elsewhere).
actually a holocaust tycoon has been done back in the 70's or 80's it was called KZ manager i saw it in the book SupercadeTenmar said:
I dislike the premise of this argument, why should gaming be about being the hero? Really limiting the scope of games so much is a lot more harmful an idea than banning rape games. The villain, the anti hero and the many harder to classify protagonists are what we need. If games are limited to only being the hero then the potential you get is heavily limited.
Are you answering your own question here? As I would contend you can be an anti-hero or even a tragic hero and have still raped some one. Thomas Covenant would be such a character, while from a book not a game he is still a hero is his own very flawed manner.Arrers said:
What if its child-version Hitler? Although that would explain alot about him...MaxTheReaper said:
Hmm... ok, I see that as a valid defense. Although I personally think that a reasonable society knows where the draw the line and won't let it slip.... and one day, we'll have a reasonable society
its someones choice to play rapegames, is it not?Vanguard_Ex said:
anyway, why are japan banning this game when america's people are outraged, america doesn't give japan profit from rape games, so japan didn't need to try and ban it at all
"we're japan, we'll bend over, for all your needs"
I think the worst part with this is that everyone is talking about a game that 99% of the people talking about it have never played so we do not really know the context of the game.
It is basically like Fox news they said Mass Effect was a sex simulator when it had only like a minute sex scene that was not a required part of the story.
Granted it is doubtful that this game has any sort of redeeming qualities to it and is more then likely just what it sounds like but I am not going to judge it without playing it. ( I will probably never play it though) I think that is the worst part of all the media attention to this game is that it just gets it in the public eye and will probably push more sales of it to those that never new it existed
It is basically like Fox news they said Mass Effect was a sex simulator when it had only like a minute sex scene that was not a required part of the story.
Granted it is doubtful that this game has any sort of redeeming qualities to it and is more then likely just what it sounds like but I am not going to judge it without playing it. ( I will probably never play it though) I think that is the worst part of all the media attention to this game is that it just gets it in the public eye and will probably push more sales of it to those that never new it existed
Made my points on this already.
Rape games should be banned until there's a reasonable counterpoint.
Game murder isn't the same as game rape because of the emotional identification. The 'walking wounded' are hardly ever portrayed for that reason, it's too damn distressing. If you just count life as an on/off switch, you can justify most forms of brutality.
(Let's face it, they've done worse to the contents of your dinner plate most nights)
But, if you can get that emotional linkage in there, suddenly murder isn't quite so easy to rationalize:
Games like Rapeplay base their game around that aspect. Once someone can come up with a way of portraying sex realistically in a game, then I'm fine for it to be portrayed pervertedly: But don't let's let the perversions come first.
Rape games should be banned until there's a reasonable counterpoint.
Game murder isn't the same as game rape because of the emotional identification. The 'walking wounded' are hardly ever portrayed for that reason, it's too damn distressing. If you just count life as an on/off switch, you can justify most forms of brutality.
(Let's face it, they've done worse to the contents of your dinner plate most nights)
But, if you can get that emotional linkage in there, suddenly murder isn't quite so easy to rationalize:
Games like Rapeplay base their game around that aspect. Once someone can come up with a way of portraying sex realistically in a game, then I'm fine for it to be portrayed pervertedly: But don't let's let the perversions come first.
Poor rat...The_root_of_all_evil said:Made my points on this already.
Rape games should be banned until there's a reasonable counterpoint.
Game murder isn't the same as game rape because of the emotional identification. The 'walking wounded' are hardly ever portrayed for that reason, it's too damn distressing. If you just count life as an on/off switch, you can justify most forms of brutality.
(Let's face it, they've done worse to the contents of your dinner plate most nights)
But, if you can get that emotional linkage in there, suddenly murder isn't quite so easy to rationalize:
Games like Rapeplay base their game around that aspect. Once someone can come up with a way of portraying sex realistically in a game, then I'm fine for it to be portrayed pervertedly: But don't let's let the perversions come first.
Anywho, thanks TRoAE, I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who wanted to see it banned.
You miss my point. Within the game of GTA, you choose whether or not you kill civilians, whereas this game centres solely around rape.dogstile said:
The ban equates censorship, even if the game is saying something no one wants to hear. But just because they have the right to express themselves does not mean we are required to pay it any attention. Let the companies make what they want. Give people the right to buy and play whatever game they choose. Companies will only make games that will sell, and this game will be the test to see if rape games are a viable market. If this game is a success then we learn something about people, something we didn't want to know and don't want to be true. But I have a feeling that if left to it's own devices this would become at worst a niche market selling shoddy products, and at best a memory of a tasteless idea.