You Can't Be the Hero If You're the Rapist

[Geoffrey42]

How on earth did you take what I said as me trying to shame you?

At the very least you were calling "a lot" of us liars, and at most you were calling "a lot" of us budding rapists (according to you, people engaging in rape fantasies are just ticking time bombs, a few too many simulated acts of rape away from snapping). Accusing people defending something of actually being engaged in the something is a common tactic used when there is a negative social stigma associated to the something. The purpose traditionally being to draw upon the defender's desire not to be painted with the negative stigma, i.e. "shame" them, into backing down. If there was some other rationale behind your statement, I apologize for misreading it, given how closely it matched a pattern I've seen so many other times in various contexts.

It should have dawned on me earlier: for a lot of you attacking RapeLay, it's not about protecting society from a possible increase in rape, it's about promoting your Fascist "my way or the highway" philosophy. I'm sure there are some for whom it actually is about the best interests of women, but I think the Fascists among you are simply fooling yourselves into thinking of it as a "think of the children" issue because on some level you perceive the defense of RapeLay as an attack on your lifestyle.

 

[Drakulla]

Dude, what game are you playing.

 

[Valentine82]

Rape happens globally, not just in Japan.

I wasn't calling anyone liars nor budding rapist, I just ralized that some people here have the fetish.

I'm busy and have better things to do than continue coming back here and discussing why it's a bad idea to make rape an acceptable masturbatory aid in a society in which women are frequently raped.

 

[KaiusCormere]

Murder is worse than Rape/Torture.

No, it's not. That's entirely subjective but many women would prefer the former to the latter. I would. And by the way, I'm sure I could think of tortures that would leave you begging for death, maybe a few months with a spinal colum full of thorezine inducing full tactile hallucinations would change your mind.

I second your opinion Valentine. I know while deployed to the Middle East, that I had planned, should I be in danger of being captured, to force my would-be captor to kill me if possible, rather than be taken alive and tortured. I consider that a personal standing policy against being taken alive by anyone I have any belief may use torture.

 

[Geoffrey42]

[a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/6.116823.2295197]Valentine82[/a] - "I'm busy and have better things to do than continue coming back here and discussing why I think it's a bad idea to allow rape to be a masturbatory aid in a society in which women are frequently raped."

There. FTFY.

 

[meisnewbie]

It's no good to posit cognitive dissonance on someone who is not willing to discuss anything imo

Also, I'm confused as to what "frequently raped" means. Does "infrequently raped" mean like, women don't get raped

 

[Muphin_Mann]

A: I find it disturbing that you subscribe to that theory. By that logic Isralies could launch a nuclear attack against Germany. Just paying them back for the nazi thing.

B: Also, i will not provide a real police officer while you get to give a highly unrealistic fictional character as your example.
B2: And dont try to use the guy from Saw either.

I've never even seen SAW. I don't watch shit.

Furthermore, I'm talking more on a person-to-person basis.
Your example is stupid. Massively so.
I'm not saying, "Kill one thousand people because there's one dude who deserves it in the crowd."

Also, I don't really see how he's unrealistic. None of the things he does are beyond the capabilities of you or me.
Well. Maybe not beyond me, anyway.

Well, i *could* kidnap torture and murder people, but i wont. Not even criminals unless its in direct defense of a life. Because if i murder murderers and you murder murderers and Dexter murders murderers then at some point we will all murder each other.

Murder is worse than Rape/Torture.

No, it's not. That's entirely subjective but many women would prefer the former to the latter. I would. And by the way, I'm sure I could think of tortures that would leave you begging for death, maybe a few months with a spinal colum full of thorezine inducing full tactile hallucinations would change your mind.

I second your opinion Valentine. I know while deployed to the Middle East, that I had planned, should I be in danger of being captured, to force my would-be captor to kill me if possible, rather than be taken alive and tortured. I consider that a personal standing policy against being taken alive by anyone I have any belief may use torture.

Keep in mind that torture and rape are two different things. If the rapist does what he wants exactly as he wants it the event is fairly quick and in time people can recover. If torture goes perfectly (for the perpetrator) then it would go on forever until your pysche was utterly destroyed and you where incapable of experiancing anything at all.
Rape (evne something like date rape) might leave emotional scars that take decades to heal but murder and torture are designed to effectivly kill an individual in either body or mind.

 

[Phototoxin]

No we wouldn't.

Also in New Scientist Nov 2008 there was an article about rapists propogating genes, its probably linked to the 'girls like bad boys' type attitude. As generally they would be such failures that rape is their only way to pass on their genetic information. So there may even be a genetic predisposition.
Also in the Arthurian legend I thought Percival was the virgin hence wore white?

And from a legal perspective murder is a higher crime than rape.

 

[YukoValis]

If the women in the game demand not to be in the game then I will understand. Until then it's not voilating their rights

 

[Gigawolf1]

Without rape, genetic variance would be down. After a good massacre, ancient armies liked to get down and dirty with unconsenting women in the mud. Chances are a good number of people alive today have one ancestor who was raped (and is also descended from said rapist as a result of said rape). I claim no numbers, this is only a guess.