You discover your children are attracted to each other...

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The "blanket acceptance" remark was referring to the frankly frightening number of people in this thread having absolutely zero reservations about such a scenario, which is a statement I was originally talking about in the post of mine you originally quoted. Best to read mine as well.

I can see where you're coming from now, but your original posts didn't make it clear at all. I pointed out that you hadn't really made an argument to support what you were saying, and you responded by saying that people who blindly accept incest were doing the same thing. How was I supposed to interpret that? If I wasn't included in that group, than your response was irrelevant. If I was included, than your response was wrong. In either case, saying that the other side is doing the same thing refutes your argument as efficiently as it does theirs. No matter how you look at it, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Edit: Oh, I missed the fact that you weren't the person making the original post. I was only quoting Johny Novgorod there. Doesn't seem to change all that much, though.

 

[chinangel]

]I can see where you're coming from now, but your original posts didn't make it clear at all. I pointed out that you hadn't really made an argument to support what you were saying, and you responded by saying that people who blindly accept incest were doing the same thing. How was I supposed to interpret that? If I wasn't included in that group, than your response was irrelevant. If I was included, than your response was wrong. In either case, saying that the other side is doing the same thing refutes your argument as efficiently as it does theirs. No matter how you look at it, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Edit: Oh, I missed the fact that you weren't the person making the original post. I was only quoting Johny Novgorod there. Doesn't seem to change all that much, though.

Certain things just don't require a long explanation to prove they're bad. First degree premeditated murder, rape, pedophilia, etc. Incest is one of them. It's just wrong.

sorry to butt in here, but let's try to keep things a bit civil. However in the cases you mentioned: murder, rape and pedophilia, these all have a clear victim, someone being harmed.

In the case of willing, consensual incest, who is being hurt? Especially if no child comes of it? Who is the one who will be damaged or forced to suffer as a result? Who is the victim?

 

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Certain things just don't require a long explanation to prove they're bad. First degree premeditated murder, rape, pedophilia, etc. Incest is one of them. It's just wrong.

Rape, murder and child molestation aren't bad because "they just are"; the reasons that they're bad are just very simple. They all hurt people in horrible, horrible ways. The same isn't true for an issue as complex as incest. Does it hurt and/or damage people? The answer is a vague and uncertain "Well... sometimes?"

To say that something is bad because "it just is" is the ultimate cop-out.

Edit: Aaaand, ninja'd. Sorry @chinangel if I wasn't being civil with that post. To me it seemed like just standard argument stuff, but I can be a right asshole sometimes. If you could point out the problematic elements of my post, it would be a great help. If you were talking about my post at the top of this page though, yeah that was over the line. I would edit it, but it's already been quoted.

 

[Jynthor]

I'd be totally fine with it. If they love each other and both consent to it, no one should have the right to take that away from them.

 

[Padwolf]

I honestly do not know. I wouldn't love them any less, but I don't really know what I'd say. I wouldn't be angry, just a bit speechless. Happy to know there's a little more love in the world, but really I just do not know. This is a bizaare thread.

 

[Lord Doomhammer]

I think the wise thing to do would be to kill off your family and go to join the knights watch on the wall.

 

[schrodinger]

I would question where my parenting went wrong, then ask if this is 'love' or them just being horny teenagers. I would try to persuade them to go and date other people that's not related to them and see what happens from there. If that fails then they better fucking wait until they're adults if they want this relationship to be serious, and i'll warn them if this is truly what they want, then they better be ready for the potential fallout if this relationship goes horribly wrong. I would also recommend if they want a child then it'll have to be either a donated egg/sperm because there will be no inbreeding in this family.

 

[SirDerpy]

I don't know why most people are OK with incest. Are you single childs? As someone who has a sibling I find the notion disgusting. Send my non-existent kids to therapy.

I'm a middle child with four siblings, but still OK with incest. I have no interest in any of my siblings, but that doesn't mean I can't understand how someone might have romantic interest in their siblings and I don't find the notion in any way disgusting.

I thought this was about sexual attraction, not romantic interest. Bottom line, are you ok with your kids fucking each other?

No, I'm not a single child. Yes, I think consensual incest is fine, as long as they're smart enough to make decisions for themselves. Just thought I'd answer your first question while I was at it.

Now, on the topic of sexual attraction. Here's another question on top of that. Think about getting it on with that old lady down the block. Doesn't that just make you want to projectile vomit? So are we now going to proclaim that grannybanging is a disgusting habit, and anyone who partakes in it must be mentally ill? Disgust isn't enough to condemn, after all.

And also, if I had kids, I don't think I would be fine with them fucking anybody, especially as kids, but again, when they're adults.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I don't know why most people are OK with incest. Are you single childs? As someone who has a sibling I find the notion disgusting. Send my non-existent kids to therapy.

I'm a middle child with four siblings, but still OK with incest. I have no interest in any of my siblings, but that doesn't mean I can't understand how someone might have romantic interest in their siblings and I don't find the notion in any way disgusting.

I thought this was about sexual attraction, not romantic interest. Bottom line, are you ok with your kids fucking each other?

No, I'm not a single child. Yes, I think consensual incest is fine, as long as they're smart enough to make decisions for themselves. Just thought I'd answer your first question while I was at it.

Now, on the topic of sexual attraction. Here's another question on top of that. Think about getting it on with that old lady down the block. Doesn't that just make you want to projectile vomit? So are we now going to proclaim that grannybanging is a disgusting habit, and anyone who partakes in it must be mentally ill? Disgust isn't enough to condemn, after all.

And also, if I had kids, I don't think I would be fine with them fucking anybody, especially as kids, but again, when they're adults.

Not only is it disgusting, it's by and large illegal and with the exception of certain kinds of chimps and rats, unnatural. It's also usually the cause and/or result of some heavy psychological trauma.

 

[Silvanus]

Not only is it disgusting, it's by and large illegal and with the exception of certain kinds of chimps and rats, unnatural. It's also usually the cause and/or result of some heavy psychological trauma.

Of course, neither the current legality [http://logical-critical-thinking.com/logical-fallacy/appeal-to-law-fallacy/] nor the "natural" status [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature] of something have any connection to whether it's ethically okay or not.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Not only is it disgusting, it's by and large illegal and with the exception of certain kinds of chimps and rats, unnatural. It's also usually the cause and/or result of some heavy psychological trauma.

Of course, neither the current legality [http://logical-critical-thinking.com/logical-fallacy/appeal-to-law-fallacy/] nor the "natural" status [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature] of something have any connection to whether it's ethically okay or not.

If ethics are indeed "a system of moral principles" then I'm sure each one of us has their personal definition of what's ethical and what's not.

 

[Silvanus]

If ethics are indeed "a system of moral principles" then I'm sure each one of us has their personal definition of what's ethical and what's not.

Fair enough, but I'm fairly certain that there are quite a few examples of unnatural things you consider fine and dandy, like televisions and aeroplanes.