You Don't Exist if You're Not on a Social Network

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AdumbroDeus

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GRYPHOM said:
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DracoSuave said:
One sign of becoming old and uncool and no longer 'hip' is threads like this.


Just sayin'
Somehow I doubt most of the posters in this thread were ever "cool".


There's two groups here.

1. People who are too old and are therefore married to traditional methods of social networking.

2. People who simply aren't social and don't see a point.
1- You're a douchebag.

2- Who gives a shit about Facebook at all? I'm not a social outcast. I'm actually very social, but I don't use Facebook often. I use it less than once a month to say "Hey! What was the homework for *whatever*?"

[Edit] 1 is my personal opinion. 2 is also an opinion, but I feel like it more or less explains that you are in fact wrong about the social outcasts.
This entire thread is based around being douchebags to the younger generation/the crowd that uses FB as an integral part of their social experience (I'm gonna generalize here, usually the more popular crowd).

If I come off as an asshole, it's only cause you guys were an asshole to me first by generalizing me and my crowd for adopting a tool for improving social interaction when the majority of you guys didn't for those two reasons.

And you don't need to be married to FB to make it useful, all you need to do is occasionally post statuses, have basic personal information up, and occasionally check up on friends/events (which I suspect is basically how you use it).


Sometimes you need to be blunt, and though I attempted to say those in relatively nice ways, there's really no nice way to say "you're a loser or you're an old fogey".
 

Pat8u

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I have a friend who has never made an internet account ever hes like a ghost stalking forums

OT: well you only exsist to those who know you if you don't have any accounts on the internet
 

Creator002

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So, my mum doesn't exist? Quite interesting. I will have to inform her of this problem and rectify it in the morning.

I don't think it's just people 16 down. The teacher in my TAFE[footnote]Technical and further education. Say you leave school and the later decide to come back and finish. It offers year 10 to 12 as well as courses in other areas (carpenting, hospitality, music, etc.).[/footnote] class has to constantly tell people to get off Facebook and YouTube (mainly the former) and our ages range from 16 to 23.
 

Korak the Mad

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According to these teens, since I don't have a Facebook, Myspace, or a Twitter account I technically don't exist. Yeah, and I'm a computer program that has somehow become sentient and is voicing it's opinion about the world.

It's sad to say that alot of people teens and young adults are so absorbed with these social networking sites that it has consumed most of their waking hours to constantly update their profile and posting things that should only be thought not posted. I'm in college and I see that about 70% of the students that have a laptop will be using it to go on to Facebook, or Twitter.
 

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Creator002 said:
So, my mum doesn't exist? Quite interesting. I will have to inform her of this problem and rectify it in the morning.

I don't think it's just people 16 down. The teacher in my TAFE[footnote]Technical and further education. Say you leave school and the later decide to come back and finish. It offers year 10 to 12 as well as courses in other areas (carpenting, hospitality, music, etc.).[/footnote] class has to constantly tell people to get off Facebook and YouTube (mainly the former) and our ages range from 16 to 23.
What do you expect? It's TAFE. If they weren't distracting themselves on Facebook, they'd be distracting themselves some other way, hence why they're at TAFE and not uni.
 

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smithy_2045 said:
Creator002 said:
So, my mum doesn't exist? Quite interesting. I will have to inform her of this problem and rectify it in the morning.

I don't think it's just people 16 down. The teacher in my TAFE[footnote]Technical and further education. Say you leave school and the later decide to come back and finish. It offers year 10 to 12 as well as courses in other areas (carpenting, hospitality, music, etc.).[/footnote] class has to constantly tell people to get off Facebook and YouTube (mainly the former) and our ages range from 16 to 23.
What do you expect? It's TAFE. If they weren't distracting themselves on Facebook, they'd be distracting themselves some other way, hence why they're at TAFE and not uni.
Ha ha. Especially true because we're doing our final semester of VCAL. Just seems like they don't care about getting their year 12.
 

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I don't know how old you are OP, but it was like that when I was in Highschool. I'm 21 and I remember about 7 or 8 years ago making fun of people who would waste their whole time out socialising worrying about taking pictures to put on myspace (because facebook wasn't in yet).

I don't see how any of the people who spend much time on forums can not understand where they're coming from.

When I was 15 (2005 if you don't feel like doing the math/s) I would get more upset and feel more violated if someone logged me in on MSN accidentally and ignored my friends than if they read my diary cover to cover and put photocopies up around the school.

It's a big fucking deal, because teens don't tend to assume that something innocent is happening, their biochemistry and the media they partake of encourages them to blow everything out of proportion and make wild, dramatic assumptions and accusations. So my dad switching my PC on for whatever reason and my MSN auto logging in and my friends seeing me log in and "ignoring them" was because I somehow hated them and wanted to have a fight for some reason.

Social networking is the kind of thing that needs to be more closely monitored (age restrictions etc, parental guidance) and needs to be educated about in schools. It's a part of modern life which we don't fully understand yet as it's so new, we need to be proactive.

Don't just dismiss these girls as stupid, the straight A students are doing it too. I think we need to accept the reality and minimise the negative affects rather than demonise it (we should all know how that feels as gamers) and try to stop people using it.

EDITing for clarity: I'm not saying we need to stop people using social networking with that last sentence, I'm saying we need to minimise negative affects rather than trying to demonise and ban it.
 

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Omnicide said:
I going to point out that not all teens are like that.

The ones that are, well, I'm not sure how they can be that stupid.
Fixed that for you.

OT: Yeah, they're stupid teenagers. Who gives a rat's ass?
 

JoesshittyOs

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Well, yeah, you are completely out of the loop in most cases when it comes to things like not being on facebook, but that doesn't mean you don't have a social life. One of the few reasons I check on mine every few days is to see some of the dumb shit that people post to their hundreds of friends.

I'd say most of the people that I personally know who don't have a Facebook or legitimately don't give a shit about their Facebook account are some of the coolest people I know.
 

Sizzle Montyjing

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And people say i don't have a life?
They beleive that people don't exist if you don't have facebook.

This is just sad, sad on so many levels.
 

zehydra

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It should really be "tween girls" not just "tweens", if we are to go by that article, anyway.
 

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AdumbroDeus said:
DracoSuave said:
One sign of becoming old and uncool and no longer 'hip' is threads like this.


Just sayin'
Somehow I doubt most of the posters in this thread were ever "cool".


There's two groups here.

1. People who are too old and are therefore married to traditional methods of social networking.

2. People who simply aren't social and don't see a point.
I'd have to agree with this post. I can't really think of exceptions to this, apart from a potential third group of hipster-type people who perhaps don't use it because everyone else uses it.

Other than that, I can only think of potential cultural differences as being the cause for the phenomenon of someone not using Facebook. For example, perhaps it's a predominantly British thing to do, and that's why I can't understand many posters' attitudes. However, it's quite possible that this theory has absolutely no substance whatsoever, and that it's far more localised perhaps to age groups in single towns/regions or even single friendship groups.


To the person that mentioned they have a weekly BBQ (or similar) to meet up with friends, I also have a similar arrangement with my group of friends where we always go to a certain club on a certain day every week. However, the logistics of meeting up (including where we're meeting up to predrink and indeed who is actually going) are pretty much all sorted out through Facebook. Without it, I can't even think about how we could arrange such a thing at the short notice that we usually do (perhaps the afternoon just hours before meeting up). The plans for each week were almost always slightly different, as people had work or were ill, or had to get a taxi or bus and thus needed to plan for that and work out where they needed to be and when so they could arrange the timing of dinner followed by going to the supermarket for drinks.
Apart from mass-texting (expensive for those not on mobile contracts, and obviously slower than typing) or trying to arrange something in advance in person (difficult as attendance to lectures was usually nowhere near 100%), I can't think of a better way than Facebook (where we are all in a group and can join group chat at our leisure to talk to one another, without anyone needing to be invited as with MSN and other chat programs).

Facebook certainly makes it easier to socialise. I don't know whether this fact cheapens that socialising in any way, but it doesn't matter to me because before I used the site, I basically didn't get a chance to do any at all, and was left out of most events and meetups. Also, Facebook is an easy way to share news or web links that we know people might be interested in (usually posted to our group wall rather than our public wall, to localise who can see it).


With all that said, however, I do understand that it takes a group of friends all having Facebook to make all this great stuff possible. If a majority do not have it, and instead use (what I personally perceive to be) inferior methods of communication, then the system becomes kind of pointless (as one of the major advantages is ability to communicate with everyone at once). The fact that everyone I know uses it is likely the reason that I can take advantage of so many of the features of the site.
In addition I recognise that many people spam their feeds with a large amount of useless drivel (likely many of those quoted in the original source), though I suspect this is more a problem with the person than with Facebook itself. I should also emphasise that Facebook should not replace face-to-face socialising. It is, more than anything else, a tool to assist in realising plans to meet IRL. It is a tool to assist in one's social life, not to replace it. Perhaps many of these girls do not understand this fact.
 

Brandon237

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I don't exist :D Unless this place counts. Which it doesn't right? Totally cool... that is so awesome that I can type and affect the the universe, through my effect on all 4 fundamental forces, WITHOUT EXISTING! I am the most awesome person who does not exist...

In all seriousness... stupid. I have a decent social life and I'm quite sure I exist... and I use no social networking sites, at all.
 

GigaHz

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Teens are stupid.

I know, I was one.

As they get older, social networking will still be a part of their lives but it won't be as significant as it once was.

When I was in university, I'd use Facebook and Twitter every chance I got simply because I liked the idea of social networking. These days, I still have a Facebook/Twitter but I rarely use it other than to check out events or respond to other peoples comments.

I actually know of girls who (OMG Cardinal sin!) deleted their Facebooks all together. I can assure you, they still very much exist. I'd probably follow suit if I didn't use mine to communicate with relatives in Europe. These girls are heros to me.
 

Nikolaz72

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chuckey said:
http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/10-things-you-dont-know-about-teens-and-social-networking-2527367/?pg=2#poll-CD1D3920C43811E09933ECECFD6D37FB

According to teens, If your not on a social network you're not alive and you don't exist. I think this is absolutely ridiculous. These girls would rather check there Facebook for a whole day than learn something in class. (that I don't mid too much.) HOWEVER! These the only thing that runs in the minds of these girls are getting home and uploading a picture of them selves just to have others comment on them. One girl even became depressed because one of her friends got more "likes" than her.

Before your start attacking me and saying things like, "they are only young girls! They don't understand!" That's not the point. The point is that these kids are setting a bad example for all teens these days who would rather interact through facebook than in real life. It's saddening to see so many kids shallow intentions.

What do you think about this? Do you really think this is how most kids 16 and younger think now a days?

Also let me leave you a quote from this article: "There's more 'life' happening online than offline. If you are not online, you are completely out of the loop--you don't have a life, you don't really exist."

EDIT: Fixed the title from 'your' to 'You're'
No? And I walk around them every day so I would know. If everyone is like that where you are. Sucks to be you.
 

Agarth

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So if I'm not on a social network... I don't exist... I'm going to be a phantom of peoples imagination for the rest of my life then. Awsome? I don't really like humanity so I'm this guy...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/153/510/photo.jpg?1311560159
 

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chuckey said:
What do you think about this? Do you really think this is how most kids 16 and younger think now a days?
No, no it isn't. This is an example of a biased sample, in which the cross-section being examined is not at all indicative of the state of the entire population. If some teenagers place greater value on online interactions than actual in-person interactions, that is a sign that they are messed up. I use my facebook account to chat with people when I can't see them in person, and that is its express purpose: to supplement in-person interactions, not replace them. The problem I have with this kind of story is that it always seems to be arguing that teenagers are all mindless invalids that, because of modern technology, are incapable of rational thought, and that social networking sites are utterly pointless indulgences that serve no purpose other than corrupting the impressionable youth of our generation, neither of which is true.