You ever feel like Origin is Steams' lil brother that was bashed in the head with a brick?

[Nerves82]

I use Steam every day, it is awesome. I recently started playing Battlefield 3 again after 10 months of not playing it so I had to re install Origin (yes I uninstalled the crap program). It is a great game but it is made worse by the requirement to use Origin. I just bought the Premium DLC for BF3 and it is great. A few days later it goes on sale for $10 less the what I bought it for. I gave customer service a chat because Steam is cool enough to give me the sale price if I bought it right before the sale. All I got from EA is the runaround and a few 15% codes that are worthless simply because I wont buy another game on Origin again. My friend put it well when he said, "Sorry we made you pay to much for a game, but here is same codes so you can may to much for a game again.

On another note, Origin is what, 3 years old now? And they STILL have no gifting option. They refuse to take my money legitimately when I want to give it to them but are, instead, content with just getting it dishonestly with no regard to customer dissatisfaction.

Having to use Origin again just made me realize how much they suck and how awesome Valve is. I am taking the tour through there studios tomorrow, it will be great.

Does anyone think EA/Origin will ever get there S*** together or will they forever be a FAIL?

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

Being a big fan of Sim City, I've only just come into contact with Origin for the first time.

It's... something. Not something I like. Certainly not something good or valid in any way. It's essentially a lot like the Microsoft store. "Our competitor did a thing so we must also do this thing, but lets not actually bother to make it cool or interesting in any way". It's "EA: The Store". And it will never be in the same league as a Steam client because the only reason it exists is to serve the game's producers, not the customers.

That said, I don't hate Origin. I resent that I have to use it at all when it would be much easier for everyone if EA would just go back to releasing games on Steam. But the client itself is inoffensive to the point of being pure banality. I nothing it. I can't even work up enough passion to hate it.

 

[Auron]

Origin works fine, in fact their cloud for savegames in every single game is a feature Steam should emulate, everything else, but the hour tracking and a decent way to backup the games, work flawlessly over here. People hate on it for free because it's EA.


PS - okay forgot another detail, their regional shop over here is complete bullshit, not sure about the US or UK ones. All of my Origin keys actually come from Amazon or Steam but barring that the service works well enough. Gifting, market and other extras would be nice but I barely use the store already might as well just give someone a code.

 

[Laughing Man]

I use Steam every day, it is awesome. I recently started playing Battlefield 3 again after 10 months of not playing it so I had to re install Origin (yes I uninstalled the crap program). It is a great game but it is made worse by the requirement to use Origin. I just bought the Premium DLC for BF3 and it is great. A few days later it goes on sale for $10 less the what I bought it for. I gave customer service a chat because Steam is cool enough to give me the sale price if I bought it right before the sale. All I got from EA is the runaround and a few 15% codes that are worthless simply because I wont buy another game on Origin again. My friend put it well when he said, "Sorry we made you pay to much for a game, but here is same codes so you can may to much for a game again.

Let me get this straight, you bought a game it then went on sale a few days later and you automatically think that EA should give it to you for the new lower price simply because Valve would do that. They instead offer you some discount codes and instead of being thankful that they offered you ANYTHING (and let's get this straight right here and right now they didn't have to offer you a thing) you decided to moan about it?

On another note, Origin is what, 3 years old now? And they STILL have no gifting option. They refuse to take my money legitimately when I want to give it to them but are, instead, content with just getting it dishonestly with no regard to customer dissatisfaction.

Speculation, trolling perhaps an example would be nice, how exactly are they refusing your money and then obtaining it dishonestly?

Origin has only ever once refused to run a game, it carries out tasks and operations in seconds and without error and when I start it up it runs in seconds. It may be more basic than Steam in it's overall feature but I want it to run my games and not question everything I do, Steam on the other hand has become a bloated mess that tries to do a bit of everything and does none of it well, it is slow to load, painfully slow to navigate, will time and again refuse to run games and don't even get me started on trying to publish to the Steam workshop or up loading images, it may be feature rich but it doesn't even do the basics very well any more.

Does anyone think EA/Origin will ever get there S*** together or will they forever be a FAIL?

Will Valve ever work out that no one cares about about Steam on Linux especially when their decade old Windows client has become a pile of slow ass wank that is more of a pain to use than almost all of their main competitors?

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

People hate on it for free because it's EA.

I don't hate it because it's EA, I hate it because it doesn't really do a whole lot better - or even on-par - with Steam, while simultaneous having a ridiculously limited game selection.

I'll use it whenever an EA game that I actually want to play like Mass Effect 3 or Dead Space 3 comes out and requires me to, but that's about it. If they want me to actually use Origin on a regular basis and maybe one day instead of Steam, they have a very long way to go in improving their service.

 

[Nerves82]

I like how none of these comments are reverent or speak to the concerns or griefs I have with Origin. A company that is in the business of charging large amounts of money for digital, non tangible products should be very interested in the happiness of the consumer. Costumer service and satisfaction is dead.

I use Steam every day, it is awesome. I recently started playing Battlefield 3 again after 10 months of not playing it so I had to re install Origin (yes I uninstalled the crap program). It is a great game but it is made worse by the requirement to use Origin. I just bought the Premium DLC for BF3 and it is great. A few days later it goes on sale for $10 less the what I bought it for. I gave customer service a chat because Steam is cool enough to give me the sale price if I bought it right before the sale. All I got from EA is the runaround and a few 15% codes that are worthless simply because I wont buy another game on Origin again. My friend put it well when he said, "Sorry we made you pay to much for a game, but here is same codes so you can may to much for a game again.

Let me get this straight, you bought a game it then went on sale a few days later and you automatically think that EA should give it to you for the new lower price simply because Valve would do that. They instead offer you some discount codes and instead of being thankful that they offered you ANYTHING (and let's get this straight right here and right now they didn't have to offer you a thing) you decided to moan about it?

On another note, Origin is what, 3 years old now? And they STILL have no gifting option. They refuse to take my money legitimately when I want to give it to them but are, instead, content with just getting it dishonestly with no regard to customer dissatisfaction.

Speculation, trolling perhaps an example would be nice, how exactly are they refusing your money and then obtaining it dishonestly?

Origin has only ever once refused to run a game, it carries out tasks and operations in seconds and without error and when I start it up it runs in seconds. It may be more basic than Steam in it's overall feature but I want it to run my games and not question everything I do, Steam on the other hand has become a bloated mess that tries to do a bit of everything and does none of it well, it is slow to load, painfully slow to navigate, will time and again refuse to run games and don't even get me started on trying to publish to the Steam workshop or up loading images, it may be feature rich but it doesn't even do the basics very well any more.

Does anyone think EA/Origin will ever get there S*** together or will they forever be a FAIL?

Will Valve ever work out that no one cares about about Steam on Linux especially when their decade old Windows client has become a pile of slow ass wank that is more of a pain to use than almost all of their main competitors?

 

[DoPo]

Will Valve ever work out that no one cares about about Steam on Linux

[sup][citation needed][/sup]

Of course, Valve probably did the Linux client on a whim and since nobody actually wanted it, that's why they eventually opened the beta which started as lottery based (more or less). Yeah, that makes sense - Gabe Newell sitting in his chair and drawing ideas out of a hat of what should Valve do next - I cannot see any other way they reached that decision.

 

[nexus]

Since it's release, it has definitely become more functional. I mean it just barely gets the job done.. the job being letting you play a game on PC from EA, without being hindered 100% of the way.

It's still sketchy at times. I'm also still convinced it's just glorified malware, spyware, "corporate telemetrics" etc. In that special sort of way that EA does it..

 

[Vegosiux]

Yeah, that makes sense - Gabe Newell sitting in his chair and drawing ideas out of a hat of what should Valve do next - I cannot see any other way they reached that decision.

Whether intentionally or not, I see what you did there and can't stop chuckling. I just wonder if he just pulled another hat out of the hat (yo dawg), or was it a crowbar.

As for Origin, no I don't hate it because it's EA, but because, as was mentioned, it simply isn't that good of a service, and I'm not too concerned about having to pass up on a few exclusives. There are too many games and too little time as it is...

 

[DoPo]

Yeah, that makes sense - Gabe Newell sitting in his chair and drawing ideas out of a hat of what should Valve do next - I cannot see any other way they reached that decision.

Whether intentionally or not, I see what you did there and can't stop chuckling.

Lol, it wasn't intentional. Now you made me chuckle, too. OK, I made me chuckle with your help. Or something.

 

[Tayh]

If you willingly use steam, then you should not be allowed to complain about Origin.

It is in my experience that Origin succeeds in doing what it's meant to; provide DRM and a client for downloading and playing games.

 

[Aeshi]

I'd say Origin is more of a Streamlined little brother to Steam.

 

[DoPo]

If you willingly use steam, then you should not be allowed to complain about Origin.

That right there makes no sense at all. How exactly does one make you unable to criticise the other? Are there other pairs like that in the world? Maybe if I eat pickles, I must never say I don't like olives, too? Or if I wore a pair of jeans I must never criticise somebody's haircut. Dunno, seems it makes as much sense as what you said.

 

[Twilight_guy]

When Valve inevitably does something dumb and burns all its bridges instantly I'm going to be so happy. The community will finally hate everything and will get to see that monopolies are bad. Hooray!

Anyways, everyone hate Steam when it first came out and it took quiet a bit of time for it to be loved. Every hated Origin when it came out, there is less hate now from what I see. I predict that with time people will actually like it (as much as people who generally have a hate-on EA can anyways)

 

[AD-Stu]

I just bought the Premium DLC for BF3 and it is great. A few days later it goes on sale for $10 less the what I bought it for. I gave customer service a chat because Steam is cool enough to give me the sale price if I bought it right before the sale. All I got from EA is the runaround and a few 15% codes that are worthless simply because I wont buy another game on Origin again.

I just want to focus on this one bit - you bought a DLC pack, which you say is great, for a price that you were obviously happy to pay at the time, and then wanted to complain when it went on sale some time later? I'm amazed you even got the discount codes out of them.

You've got to realise that you were unlikely to get the difference back from EA on this one, just like you're unlikely to get the difference back on pretty much any purchase you make from any other company anywhere, online or live. My supermarket doesn't give me back money because something I bought last week went on sale this week. A car dealer wouldn't give me a refund if I bought a car a week before a big discounting run. Why would any company be any different?

I mean good on you for trying, you're freerolling since the worst they can do is just say no and all you've lost is a few minutes of your time. But you can't seriously have expected them to give you the money just because Valve likes to give money away?

 

[sanquin]

When Valve inevitably does something dumb and burns all its bridges instantly I'm going to be so happy. The community will finally hate everything and will get to see that monopolies are bad. Hooray!

I already 'hate' everything. Or rather, dislike. All companies are in it for the money, and I dislike all of them for it. I didn't like steam when it first came out and I still don't. Problem is that I can't get several popular and a ton of indie games any more without using steam. I'd much rather burn the whole client to the ground and find a better solution than a company renting licenses to you rather than you actually buying and owning a game.

And no, I'm not excusing 'they're in it for the money' to excuse them. As even though they want to make money, they should also make good games to keep their customers happy. Which is why I find it odd that EA hasn't gone bankrupt yet. Doesn't give me much hope for the gaming community as a whole really...

 

[ShinyCharizard]

Oh *****, *****, *****. Origin works fine. In fact it's even smoother than steam is. All it lacks is a decent range of titles. I swear the majority of people who hate on the program just want to jump on the hate EA bandwagon for no other reason than it is popular to do so.

 

[Doom972]

More like a slow learning little brother. It came much later than Steam and doesn't seem to be catching up very quickly. It's basic, but stable.

I think that giving you that 15% discount was more than fair - it's not that you deserved compensations (you got exactly what you paid for), but they decided to be nice anyway. The fact that valve was more generous with you, is a point in Valve's favor, but it doesn't mean that this is the standard (though I'm sure we all wish it was like this).

I don't hate Origin, but I still prefer to get my games on Steam mainly due to sales. If EA would start selling some popular games for 75% I'll buy games there as well.

Will Valve ever work out that no one cares about about Steam on Linux especially when their decade old Windows client has become a pile of slow ass wank that is more of a pain to use than almost all of their main competitors?

Actually, many people care about Steam Linux. It's nice to be able to use Steam natively in the OS of one's choosing.

When was the last time you played a game on Steam? 2004? Steam loads and works faster than Origin and GFWL for me.

 

[Lee Quitt]

Steam fanboys really have short memory's, god i remember trying to get Half Life 2 to work, that was an infuriating experience. Origin is much better after 3 years than steam was at that point in its life.

Furthermore Origin still manages to some things better then steam, for example when Skyrim broke street date in Australia I was unable to preload form disk, only download via the internet, despite having the disk right there! This resulted in my having to wait till 12 just to install the game, then down load a hefty patch that went at a snail pace for over an hour. BF 3 broke street date, installed from disk then downloaded the day one patch, launched at 12 on the dot.

 

[Olas]

I've basically hated it ever since I was forced to download and install it to play my Mass Effect 3 disk. Of course I'm not allowed to run my installed game unless I have origin running in the background too for no reason. It then went on to interrupt me with a message every time my internet connection went down while I was playing the singleplayer campaign. Thanks for doing that without asking or anything Origin.

I don't even care if it's a good store or what have you, anything that does this kind of crap isn't getting my money. Steam FTW I guess.