Sir, you make some fine points. I have to say, I have never had any major issues with steam and I have been a user since 03. Preloading games has always been a breeze. Every once in a while I have had a compatibility issue, but nothing I have not been able to fix with Google. Origin on the other hand has always given me problems and has never been a stable platform. I need to restart it quite often just to get it to operate normally. Hell, I still have a game (Alice: Madness Returns) that has such a bad glitch that I can not play the game, even after extensive time with the EA support team. After 10 months away from it, I was expecting improvements but I was disappointing. For being such a big, powerful company you would think that the quality of the products they produce would be better.Monster_user said:
You ever feel like Origin is Steams' lil brother that was bashed in the head with a brick?
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Thank you for writing what I was going to write.Laughing Man said:
I agree with Laughing Man, just because Steam has been known for giving back x amount of money when you buy something a day before a sale, doesn't mean others should. Hell, I dare you to go into a store and try that, they'll just point you in the direction of the exit. It's not just stores either, just look at currency it goes up and down every day, and just cause the next day your dollar may have bought an extra 2 or 10 cents it doesn't matter, you bought it on a day when it was worth that amount.
People need to get off the 'hate EA horse' and realise that it's actually okay that Origin exists. Steam needs some competition, and I know a few things about Steam that I find shady/consumer unfriendly such as not being able to get a refund. I know many digital product companies don't allow refunds or selling your digital copy, but it's still something I want and Steam doesn't give.
Origin is just the Black and White lollies compared to the starburst lollies.
Considering issues that were pointed out here
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/9359-Dear-Origin-You-Stink.2
have still yet to be addressed and only recently did Ubisoft announce that it was sending some its catalogue to Origin (in a backhanded sort of way in a press release about its own content service) here.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122227-Ubisoft-to-Sell-Competitions-Games-on-Uplay-Store
I consider the analogy to be appropriate.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/9359-Dear-Origin-You-Stink.2
have still yet to be addressed and only recently did Ubisoft announce that it was sending some its catalogue to Origin (in a backhanded sort of way in a press release about its own content service) here.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122227-Ubisoft-to-Sell-Competitions-Games-on-Uplay-Store
I consider the analogy to be appropriate.
It's already heading that way unfortunately. God-damn I wish everyone just adopted the GOG way of doing things. Sign in once to download your games and that is it. It's just so much better.OlasDAlmighty said:
I like Valve a hell of a lot more than EA, in fact I don't even like EA at all. That said, from my experience with both, I've found Origin to be a hell of a lot smoother and stable than Steam is. Steam crashes on me, I sometimes get errors just switching from the store to the community tab, some of my games perform a first time set up every time I start the game, and I've had problems with the last 3 games I've pre-ordered, causing me to never pre-order a game on Steam ever again. I've never had any of these problems with Origin.
Hey, hey, hey, don't judge my preferences.SushiJaguar said:
On Topic, never have used Origin, seeing as how I just get most of their games on my Xbox. Steam all the way, bitches. It's only so long before we're giving them our firstborns for their sales.
Eh...I've had my run ins with Origin, but I can't hate the service completely. Yes, when I used it was slow. Yes, the ads at the time were obnoxious and intrusive. But my CD drive stopped working on my old computer, and it let me replay Mass Effect 2, and the save is still cloud saved, so when I finally get around to ME3 (Maybe) then I could launch right back into it.
That said, if imitation's the sincerest form of flattery, then EA must really hate Valve, because they really could've copied a few more features from Steam. While I think it's a little much to expect a discount on something you did buy retroactively, it would have been one way EA might have kept your support. And that's sort of the crux of things isn't it? Origin has never felt like a service I was happy to use. Steam over time's become a community for me. I've made a few friends through it, friends I've kept and still play with years later. There's enough there to keep us interested, and when mass sales come along, if a game's cheap enough we all buy it to give the thing a try.
Origin has always felt like a shoehorned extra, some additional feature we only put on our computers because EA forced us too. Much like Games for Windows Live, it's just kind of stuck with the games it's foisted on us, and can't break into a wider market.
That said, if imitation's the sincerest form of flattery, then EA must really hate Valve, because they really could've copied a few more features from Steam. While I think it's a little much to expect a discount on something you did buy retroactively, it would have been one way EA might have kept your support. And that's sort of the crux of things isn't it? Origin has never felt like a service I was happy to use. Steam over time's become a community for me. I've made a few friends through it, friends I've kept and still play with years later. There's enough there to keep us interested, and when mass sales come along, if a game's cheap enough we all buy it to give the thing a try.
Origin has always felt like a shoehorned extra, some additional feature we only put on our computers because EA forced us too. Much like Games for Windows Live, it's just kind of stuck with the games it's foisted on us, and can't break into a wider market.
The only thing that really bothers me about Origin is that I have to have another client installed on my PC.
Steam is a slow, intrusive, buggy shit of a client and I hate it. The sales are nice and the fact that all of my friends have it makes it convenient but there is nothing else I like about it.
And at least Origin let's me play single player retail games right from install without FORCING me to download a multi-GB patch. It took me 4 days to play Shogun 2 and 2 days to be able to play Sleeping Dogs because Steam is a twat like that.
Steam is a slow, intrusive, buggy shit of a client and I hate it. The sales are nice and the fact that all of my friends have it makes it convenient but there is nothing else I like about it.
And at least Origin let's me play single player retail games right from install without FORCING me to download a multi-GB patch. It took me 4 days to play Shogun 2 and 2 days to be able to play Sleeping Dogs because Steam is a twat like that.
It's one thing to get annoyed at yourself for missing a sale, but getting annoyed at the vendor? That's just so dumb I don't even know where to start explaining why.
As for Origin, well, it works. And its not like anyone is pointing a gun at your head and forcing you to use it. Don't like it? Vote with your wallet. Basic economics. Oh wait... you get annoyed at vendors for putting things on sale... nevermind.
As for Origin, well, it works. And its not like anyone is pointing a gun at your head and forcing you to use it. Don't like it? Vote with your wallet. Basic economics. Oh wait... you get annoyed at vendors for putting things on sale... nevermind.
Because what you've listed as concerns and griefs are nonsense. You bought something and it went on sale a few days later ergo they should give you the stuff you bought at the higher price for the new lower price? When they didn't instead of accepting that or being thankful that they offered you ANYTHING (and as I said they didn't have to offer you jack shit) you decided to come here and ***** and moan about not being given something you were never entitled too disguised as a thinly veiled troll at Origin. Does THAT address your 'concerns' and 'griefs'?
LOL, improve by virtue of doing the basics worse than at any point in it's history? The only time Steam has been as slow as it is now was in the first year after it's launch.
Trolling nonsense, Origin spends less time spending info back than Steam does, and five seconds inspecting it's process tells you it does nothing that Steam doesn't also do
Which is just as bad as the one Valve makes you sign to use theirs.
Yeah that's why he's doing it for the good of the choice of the community, nothing to do with his bitching about Windows 8 or that he thinks MS is going to kill off Steam using the Windows App marketplace or that it is going to be nothing more than a test bed to see how much crap existing Windows client users will put up with so that their is less bitching when they finally roll out their Steam 'console' without a Windows based OS.
I am sorry but this really had to be proven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh_CliWKtQE&feature=youtu.be
Some notes, both clients fully updated, both clients loaded and then fully closed to take in to account preloading (Steam is even slower to load after a cold boot). Both clients are installed on an OCZ SSD and both are connected via a 30Meg Fibre internet connection. Origin loads MILES faster, enough to allow me tab to my games and then dick around for a further ten seconds. Origins Store loads in seconds, Steams' shocker, takes much longer and in both instances Steam was selected first. As for GFWL well everyone acknowledges that it's crap so using it as any comparative is a bit worthless. Oh and this is Steam running quickly as well.
I hate all these fucking DRM wrapped up in distro clothes services and want them to all fuck off and die painfully somewhere.
I merely tolerate origin. I regularly purchase games from steam, however I will not do so from origin. On the rare occasion that I buy an EA game, I will buy it physically. The only uses origin has for me is decreasing the number of shortcuts in my taskbar, and buying/downloading DLC (not equivalent to buying a game).