"You lie!"
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Most republicans do not hate healthcare reform (is that really what the BBC thinks?). The majority just don't agree with certain proposals, or doubt the intentions of some of the democrats.chrisdibs said:
I am disappointed that even Obama misrepresented some things and engaged in partisn politics. It's bad enough when republicans do it; why must democrats do the same?
I and everyone I know are not against reform.. REFORM!!! Not a complete restructure... I pay out the ass for my health care and I love it! If I get forced into some crappy health-care (even one such as Kaiser is crappy by my standards) I am gonna be pissed! And I will because I work entirely for small companies that will take the cheapest route instead of the best. It is a sneaky back-door approach to a take-over. Not to mention the cost...Cerebreus said:
Democrats are as partisan as they come. Republicans just own companies, whereas Democrats have their hands in so many company's pockets that it is ridiculous... we need to toss the whole government and start over if you ask me... even though that'll never happen.
all we get is toothless fuckers from the deep south saying shit like, "Jesus hates the NHS!!"Cerebreus said:
they may be misrepresenting the whole thing somewhat
but you gotta understand, we find it deeply shocking that (some) people from america have started holding up the NHS as the epitome of socialist evil. it's baffling.
so wait, Obama says that illegal immigrants would not benefit from these healthcare reforms, and this dude calls him a liar, could someone please tell me what the fuck this means:
source [http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text?version=ih&nid=t0:ih:965]
does this contradict the "you lie!" dude or what? it all needs to be cleared up in any case
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SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.does this contradict the "you lie!" dude or what? it all needs to be cleared up in any case
we all know that, everyone thinks it's childish and prohibitive to proper discussion to make such an outburst, but I'm just interested if the reasoning behind his outburst is also faulty.aakibar said:
You guys should watch a session of the Canadian Parliament. It's like a elementary school playground. There's hissing, yelling, and constant booing. It's not quite as viscious as the british set up, but it's still quite unruly.
After the age of 11, i think most people understand the whole "Wait your turn" rule. Obviously someone is a little late on that one. Its a formal press conference, and hes shouting like its a playground. Your in politics, and a respectable position in politics, so grow up and act your age... and your position.
Over such a sensitive issue, I can understand if it was a kneejerk reaction to Obama's speech. However, if it was planned that he would shout "you lie" at some point, then he is clearly very rude.
That being said, that sort of thing happens all the time in the House of Commons in Britain. During Prime Ministers Questions, the opposition spend most of their time comming up with clever ways to call the PM an idiot while shouting and screaming at each other. British MP's make politics look like a small war. The comments at the Congress are nothing compared to House of Commons stuff
That being said, that sort of thing happens all the time in the House of Commons in Britain. During Prime Ministers Questions, the opposition spend most of their time comming up with clever ways to call the PM an idiot while shouting and screaming at each other. British MP's make politics look like a small war. The comments at the Congress are nothing compared to House of Commons stuff
This is weak as piss compared to British politics - heres a link with subtitles (AS you'd probably miss it without them);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov4FKKlkqjM&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov4FKKlkqjM&NR=1
No. Affordability credits are not the same thing as being allowed to participate in the public option. The U.S. Supreme Court has generally held (as of late) that unless there are specific provisions in a bill the terms 'individual' or 'person' apply to all people illegal immigrant or not. So there are plenty of loopholes to work in this bill. This being only one.MusicalFreedom said:
That wasn't what got me, it's when everyone else went "oooohhhhhh" that pissed me off. You know, we have a place to act like 7th graders, and it's called MIDDLE SCHOOL. Maybe these fuckers that call themselves "politicians" need the attitude adjustment that your average teenager needs, which makes me sick. We should NOT be run by 12 year olds.
Yes, because nobody cared about that.Arsen said:
Plus, that was some middle eastern reporter guy. Not a freaking representative in our government.