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GistoftheFist

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viranimus said:
This is sort of why they used to have laws against entrapment, but hey, If its good enough of a justification for Chris Hansen to catch Pedos, I guess its good enough to catch cheaters, amirite?
What Chris Hansen does isn't entrapment. Busting pedos for trying to commit illegal actions isn't entrapment. Nobody forced them to speak to undercover police posing as tweens, or made them drive hundreds of miles with booze and birth control. Entrapment would be police telling you to do something then arresting you when you do it. And if you're dumb enough to get busted by Chris Hansen you deserve what you get.

Also, there's no law forcing you to remain faithful to a girlfriend. You can be a cheating sack of shit all day long, even though it's douchey it's not illegal.
 

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RJ 17 said:
FernandoV said:
RJ 17 said:
At least a good example of it.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/i-hired-a-honeytrap-to-catch-my-man-cheating-787468

Synopsis: a British woman hires a female PI that goes by the name of "Miss Honeytrap". The woman apparently wanted to find out if her boyfriend would be willing to cheat on her, and as such she hired Honeytrap specifically to try and seduce her boyfriend. Shockingly enough, the woman was heartbroken when she caught the two on a genuine date.

"I hired you to test my boyfriend and you stole him from me?"

Wellllll yeah...that seems like it would be a strong possibility when you PAY another woman to actively try and seduce your current boyfriend, how is this outcome so surprising?

(Edit) ~Disclaimer: Due to the inability of some people to recognize a jest, allow me to state that no, this topic is not me making a direct attack on the sanity of all women everywhere. This is a light-hearted joke thread created to share a humorous story of a woman who behaved in a ridiculous manner.~
...so you don't understand why a woman would be upset if the persons she hired to TEST her boyfriend instead actually went out with him?
Or, you know, she could have confronted her boyfriend with her suspicions of cheating rather than hiring a seductress to seduce him and then getting mad when they ended up being together.
Sure, but that's not the only reason you're calling her crazy; you are trying to say she's crazy because she got mad at how things ended up, and she has every right to be. Her method is crazy but she HIRED her to TEST her boyfriend, not see if they could be together.
 

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Hah, awesome for him! Hope he's happier with a better (less insecure) gf.
 

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RJ 17 said:
Dude, you have no idea, I used to think most women were normal until I was in a class where everyone of them except for one said that they wouldn't or didn't allow their boyfriend to have any female friends. I tried questioning them on it and it basically went like this.

me: So you don't trust your boyfriend?
girl: I do, I wouldn't trust the girl not to do something.
me: Guys are completely capable of stopping girls from making a move if they want to.
girl: Yeah but they wouldn't stop her.
me: Once again, you don't trust your boyfriend.
girl: No...I told you, I trust him.
me:...but...what? I don't even...never mind. You're right, guys shouldn't be allowed to have female friends and girls shouldn't have guy friends either.
girl: NO WAY! I should be allowed to have guy friends, it would unfair if I couldn't.

(this is obviously a summary but the argument was about this stupid. I don't think women are crazy but there is definitely something wrong with a good number of them.)
I could sort of follow her reasoning at first, I don't think that my boyfriend's going to look to go out and cheat on me but my self confidence is low enough that I can easily imagine him falling for someone better if they let him know he had a chance with them. It's not a trust issue, merely an "I am not worthy" issue.
But yeah, once someone says they should have privileges that their partner should not, that's stupid. Do unto others and all that. (It pissed me right off when my ex-boyfriend made me cut off my male friends - not all of them, just the single and attractive ones - even if I wanted to be selfish about the issue, I'd still be silly to give my boyfriend a reason to be similarly pissed off with me!)
 

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GistoftheFist said:
viranimus said:
This is sort of why they used to have laws against entrapment, but hey, If its good enough of a justification for Chris Hansen to catch Pedos, I guess its good enough to catch cheaters, amirite?
What Chris Hansen does isn't entrapment. Busting pedos for trying to commit illegal actions isn't entrapment. Nobody forced them to speak to undercover police posing as tweens, or made them drive hundreds of miles with booze and birth control. Entrapment would be police telling you to do something then arresting you when you do it. And if you're dumb enough to get busted by Chris Hansen you deserve what you get.

Also, there's no law forcing you to remain faithful to a girlfriend. You can be a cheating sack of shit all day long, even though it's douchey it's not illegal.
Its the very definition of entrapment. Your right no one forces them to make contact but you do realize that the cops posing are extremely and aggressively seeking chronophiles, right? Its not like they are simply going to "teen sex" chat room and looking down a list. In the conversations leading up to the event they are incredibly accommodating in order to lead their targets to the outcome they want. In many of the cases it was the Cop who initiates and turns the topic of conversation to sex. This is why 23 of the cases from the show saw the charges dropped and was a major contributor to the show being cancelled. Its not a matter of being dumb enough, these people were led by the nose down a primrose path not for the purpose of catching criminals, but specifically for television ratings, and it usually IS the dumbest who get "caught" in entrapment scenarios like this.

It being illegal does not diminish its nature of entrapment. If you remove the illegal nature of it its not really entrapment any more because that is the nature of what entrapment is, trapping and tricking someone into committing an illegal activity.

And this instance is only different in the context you provided. There is no law making infidelity illegal. Honestly this girl got what she deserved in this respect. It was a matter of not trusting her boyfriend. EDITIf she had trusted him, she would not have been testing his loyalty. And given the fact she needed reassurance in the form of testing his loyalty there relationship was never built on trust. It was a situation that she got burnt by forcing her boyfriend into a scenario that would be hard to resist regardless of if you were a man or woman (Yes, remember women cheat just as much if not more often than men)



inconsequential edit: How the fuck did I end up being the first post on both pages 3 AND 4?
 

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FernandoV said:
RJ 17 said:
FernandoV said:
RJ 17 said:
At least a good example of it.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/i-hired-a-honeytrap-to-catch-my-man-cheating-787468

Synopsis: a British woman hires a female PI that goes by the name of "Miss Honeytrap". The woman apparently wanted to find out if her boyfriend would be willing to cheat on her, and as such she hired Honeytrap specifically to try and seduce her boyfriend. Shockingly enough, the woman was heartbroken when she caught the two on a genuine date.

"I hired you to test my boyfriend and you stole him from me?"

Wellllll yeah...that seems like it would be a strong possibility when you PAY another woman to actively try and seduce your current boyfriend, how is this outcome so surprising?

(Edit) ~Disclaimer: Due to the inability of some people to recognize a jest, allow me to state that no, this topic is not me making a direct attack on the sanity of all women everywhere. This is a light-hearted joke thread created to share a humorous story of a woman who behaved in a ridiculous manner.~
...so you don't understand why a woman would be upset if the persons she hired to TEST her boyfriend instead actually went out with him?
Or, you know, she could have confronted her boyfriend with her suspicions of cheating rather than hiring a seductress to seduce him and then getting mad when they ended up being together.
Sure, but that's not the only reason you're calling her crazy; you are trying to say she's crazy because she got mad at how things ended up, and she has every right to be. Her method is crazy but she HIRED her to TEST her boyfriend, not see if they could be together.
Again: "Or, you know, she could have confronted her boyfriend with her suspicions of cheating."

Seems you can't see the forest through all those damn, pesky trees. She's not crazy for being upset that her boyfriend was cheating on her, she's crazy for intentionally putting him into a situation that encourages him cheating. Essentially she hired a hooker for her boyfriend and then got upset because he went out with said hooker. It's precisely her method that is the joke here, not the final outcome.
 

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Relish in Chaos said:
RJ 17 said:
Relish in Chaos said:
No, that's nothing to do with why some men think some or most women are insane, and it works the other way round too.

This is just one crazy woman who you shouldn't take as the goddamn spokesperson for the entire population of women.
Good lord calm the hell down, this was a light-hearted topic poking fun at a person who acted in a ridiculous manner, no need to take it so seriously as though I'm ACTUALLY making an attack on the psychological state of all women everywhere.
Right, well, your title was somewhat misleading and inflammatory, and frankly, I'm fed up of the gender-political threads that keep popping up.
Then why did you pop in and read one?
 

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RJ 17 said:
Again: "Or, you know, she could have confronted her boyfriend with her suspicions of cheating."

Seems you can't see the forest through all those damn, pesky trees. She's not crazy for being upset that her boyfriend was cheating on her, she's crazy for intentionally putting him into a situation that encourages him cheating. Essentially she hired a hooker for her boyfriend and then got upset because he went out with said hooker. It's precisely her method that is the joke here, not the final outcome.
I agree that the sensible course of action would have been to confront him about it. But I don't think you can mock her for being upset with the outcome, if he wasn't actually a douche and did love her, he'd have turned down the other girl, it's not like men are incapable of turning down temptation. That was the result she was hoping for.
Of course, if she got that result, she wouldn't have deserved him. :p
 

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ghaleonausa said:
Relish in Chaos said:
RJ 17 said:
Relish in Chaos said:
No, that's nothing to do with why some men think some or most women are insane, and it works the other way round too.

This is just one crazy woman who you shouldn't take as the goddamn spokesperson for the entire population of women.
Good lord calm the hell down, this was a light-hearted topic poking fun at a person who acted in a ridiculous manner, no need to take it so seriously as though I'm ACTUALLY making an attack on the psychological state of all women everywhere.
Right, well, your title was somewhat misleading and inflammatory, and frankly, I'm fed up of the gender-political threads that keep popping up.
Then why did you pop in and read one?
Know your enemy. :) It's stressful to read people slagging off women (or men, or gay people, or >insert group of people whose crime is being born with certain traits here<), but at least if we read what they're saying we can understand why they're so mean about us and what we can say in return to make them be nicer.
 

ghaleonausa

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lisadagz said:
ghaleonausa said:
Relish in Chaos said:
RJ 17 said:
Relish in Chaos said:
No, that's nothing to do with why some men think some or most women are insane, and it works the other way round too.

This is just one crazy woman who you shouldn't take as the goddamn spokesperson for the entire population of women.
Good lord calm the hell down, this was a light-hearted topic poking fun at a person who acted in a ridiculous manner, no need to take it so seriously as though I'm ACTUALLY making an attack on the psychological state of all women everywhere.
Right, well, your title was somewhat misleading and inflammatory, and frankly, I'm fed up of the gender-political threads that keep popping up.
Then why did you pop in and read one?
Know your enemy. :) It's stressful to read people slagging off women (or men, or gay people, or >insert group of people whose crime is being born with certain traits here<), but at least if we read what they're saying we can understand why they're so mean about us and what we can say in return to make them be nicer.
I can't argue with that logic.
 

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HAHAHAHAHA!

That's freaking hilarious. Maybe next time you'll think for more than 5 seconds before you pull that same shit. Impossible to feel sorry for someone who brings this sort of thing on themselves. Really, if you can't trust your Boyfriend, Girlfriend, whatever, then you need to choose better.

For anyone interested he went from this:


To this:
I'd say the bloke came out the winner there.
 

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viranimus said:
And this instance is only different in the context you provided. There is no law making infidelity illegal. Honestly this girl got what she deserved in this respect. It was a matter of not trusting her boyfriend. EDITIf she had trusted him, she would not have been testing his loyalty. And given the fact she needed reassurance in the form of testing his loyalty there relationship was never built on trust. It was a situation that she got burnt by forcing her boyfriend into a scenario that would be hard to resist regardless of if you were a man or woman (Yes, remember women cheat just as much if not more often than men)



inconsequential edit: How the fuck did I end up being the first post on both pages 3 AND 4?
Um, did you miss the fact he was already cheating? She suspected something after finding a message from another woman on his phone, so thats why she did it. So, she was kind of right not to trust him.
 

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Doclector said:
Phasmal said:
Doclector said:
The disturbing thing? As much as I know plenty of women who wouldn't play these kind of games, the kind of "Walk off ranting then say 'OMG, you should have followed me!" mindf*** games, I know just as many women who would, and do.

The wierd thing is, men don't do that, or at least, I've literally never heard of a man doing that. Every other crappy relationship based action, men can be guilty of just as much as women, and vise versa, but this one thing is something that seems almost exclusively female. Why is that, I wonder?

Then again, I'm sure males have a particular relationship douche move that females almost completely don't do.
To be fair the dude was already cheating.
And my ex used to play mind games like that all the flipping time. I would not think it was exclusive at all.
Intriguing. Of course, that leaves more questions, was such a thing isolated to your ex, or if a signifcant number of men do that, why not where I live?

Gah, understanding humans is the ultimate mindf***.
Here's a question, how many sexual relationships have you had with men?

If the answer quite low, how can you claim to know how men, in general, act in sexual relationships?
 

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Maze1125 said:
Doclector said:
Phasmal said:
Doclector said:
The disturbing thing? As much as I know plenty of women who wouldn't play these kind of games, the kind of "Walk off ranting then say 'OMG, you should have followed me!" mindf*** games, I know just as many women who would, and do.

The wierd thing is, men don't do that, or at least, I've literally never heard of a man doing that. Every other crappy relationship based action, men can be guilty of just as much as women, and vise versa, but this one thing is something that seems almost exclusively female. Why is that, I wonder?

Then again, I'm sure males have a particular relationship douche move that females almost completely don't do.
To be fair the dude was already cheating.
And my ex used to play mind games like that all the flipping time. I would not think it was exclusive at all.
Intriguing. Of course, that leaves more questions, was such a thing isolated to your ex, or if a signifcant number of men do that, why not where I live?

Gah, understanding humans is the ultimate mindf***.
Here's a question, how many sexual relationships have you had with men?

If the answer quite low, how can you claim to know how men, in general, act in sexual relationships?
The same way I try to understand normal, conventionally "sane" human beings despite not being one myself; By observing them. I don't mean of course, that I sit in the corner of the bedroom watching, but you'd be surprised how many public places people consider to be private, and how much you pick up when you're bored, trains being the best place for this kind of thing. The drawback, of course, is that you rarely see what happens truly in private, not just in the places that people sometimes believe to be private.
 
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I'm a feminist and I'm a man.

You can't explain that.

Women have taken enough shit over the years, I think they deserve to be a little crazy every now and then :D
 
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Matthew94 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
I'm a feminist and I'm a man.

You can't explain that.

Women have taken enough shit over the years, I think they deserve to be a little crazy every now and then :D
Usually I agree with you but you know that mentality is just wrong.
I know it is :D

What I mean is that crazy people do crazy things.

What happens to be inbetween their legs is irrelevant.

OP reeks of confirmation bias (even is it is a joke).