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Easton Dark

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I barely want to pay what places charge for the actual food... some pizza places have ridiculously marked-up prices.

I'm sorry... my attitude towards money just wont let me consciously hand money to someone random and get nothing material in return.
 

xxmyhero64xx

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I skipped everything to put my 2 cents in (hah!). But here's how I see it. If the waiter/waitress seems to be doing a half decent job throw some money in. If you are allowed a decent amount of tips your manager can lower your salary under minimum wage. And by god they will. So a large part of what they make is dependent on tips. I was fortunate for my last job to be 6 bucks plus tips but I've seen it go down to 2.50.
 

Fiad

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Ya a lot of the time here in the US waiters are actually paid below min wage because tips are factored into their pay. So even if you work in the fanciest place ever, if you don't get tipped, you are making less than someone working at McDonalds.
 

malestrithe

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Yeah, I do not think so. I'm not going to tip you because you give me a sob story about how "dangerous" the job is. Nor am I doing that because you trumped up an anecdote about how you saved the public from an outbreak.

Hate to break it to you, but food in general contains a small amount of bugs, rat droppings and other things that are unsanitary. I know this and it does not stop me from eating food at all. You do not get a tip for saving the public because your contribution is insignificant.

As for the tip, I have a minimum amount of work you need to do in order to get it. Bring me my food when it's ready, ask me if I want to refresh my drink twice and that's it. If you can't do that, you do not get a tip.

Now about complaining about the experience to the cashier, I don't. If I had lousy service, I never come back.
 

lunavixen

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I work in the fast food industry (I make $21.98AU per hour, more on saturdays and sundays), I deliver pizzas, and while tipping is not as prevalent or expected as it is in America, we do occasionally get good nights in tips. I'm in Australia, and unlike what Evil Smurf said, tipping does happen, it's just not as common.

OP:I would not eat at where you work.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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I just live in a country where we have a reasonable minimum wage so tipping isn't a thing at all.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Fiad said:
Ya a lot of the time here in the US waiters are actually paid below min wage because tips are factored into their pay. So even if you work in the fanciest place ever, if you don't get tipped, you are making less than someone working at McDonalds.
Management is supposed to make up for that, however. The problem is that many waiters don't ask management for the extra cash because (illegal as it may be) they get fired for doing so.

Disclaimer: I live in Aus, so this is based on anecdotal evidence from friends in the US.
 

TehCookie

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You get paid to do you job. If you do extra I'll give you extra, but I'm not giving you a tip for doing what you're suppose to be doing. That's what your boss pays you for (unless he doesn't *cough*restaurants*cough* then I will).

The most I'll always do is act nice, I don't get the point of treating them badly.
 

emeraldrafael

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Hahaha! you're funny. well im sorry to say, but im sure as hell not tipping someone behind a counter when they are calling back my order and then shipping me off to fill their quota (which i realize there isnt one in all cases but its the best way to describe it). I tip the delivery man because he/she has to drive out to wherever I live, put up with whatever traffic, and then has to fill his tank (because usually they dont get paid min wage or cost is costly and the nature of their job can easily put them in a constant red). I tip a person at a restaurant because i expect to have them come by and check on me (ask how the meal is, ask if I need another drink, ask if I would like anything else, and above all else, be courteous). if they dont, I take a certain percentage amount off their tip for each category they didnt meet my standard. Fast food places as you describe do not have any of the personal experience or the atmosphere to charge (as I hear some people call a tip) that warrants an extra charging.

oh dont owrry, i realize it sucks to work there, I did it myself. I was a concessionist at a theatre for 2 years and then an usher for another 2 after an incident with a rather difficult customer who couldnt grasp the concept of the line. and never once did i expect or ask for a tip. You think it sucks having to take orders, or make food, trying cleaning up after people in a theatre, in a dark room where its easy to hide what youre doing and theatre checks arent often routine so we have to rely on the customer complaining and then figuring out if the complaint is actually something to bother with. I got paid min wage to clean up including but not limited to: Shit, Piss, sexual fluids, blood, food (off floors, walls, and screens), diapers (having to fish those out by hand out of a light because ours are mounted to the wall with a bowl shape around for aesthetics), drinks that otherwise can result in someone slipping or worse coming out to ***** that they got their shoes sticky and dirty, and multitudes of other things in less than 4 minutes time. yeah, you can guess that doesnt happen and the theatre isnt spotless, but I dont stand outside a theatre when im done and wait as people walkin for the next showing with a hand out expecting a tip.

You (and I at the time) are bottom rung of the ladder, you do nothing of note that separates you from anyone else or most times even doing the job that deserves the tip (for example, Im sure as hell not going to tip a register ringer at a McDonalds when they're not making the food).

oh, and also:
newfoundsky said:
Management is Trying to Kill You

I work at a pizza chain, and a friend of mine works at a burger chain. So I can safely say that this holds true for most places. The management is trying to kill you.

I remember just a few days ago that a family of spiders had taken up residence in the flour.
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Sure it looks nice, but think of the location!

After bringing this to the managers attention, he scooped the spiders out, and put me back to work. I argued that the flour was contaminated and we should throw it out. We had plenty of good flour in the back and it wouldn't hurt. I was told that the flour was fine, and just get back to work. But me and my fellow crew members took a stand. We refused to use the pizza dough rolled in that flour and forced in doing so, saved the townspeople from from ingesting dozens of spider babies. I was able to use different flour.

My friend has less success at his workplace. The oil that they fry the chicken and fries in is home to the corpses of silverfish and cockroaches, and the management will only have that oil changed out every other week. People are eating decaying bugs. However, his place of work has very little job security. The last time the crew spoke up against the management there because of this, the whole crew was fired.

The regular crew members behind the counter actually care what you are eating. If it were up to us, the whole place would be fumigated every time someone sneezed. But the management is only concerned with meeting the profit targets that the owners set. It's not their fault though. They will lose there job immediately if they allow profits to become losses, so you have to understand that they would hesitate to do anything that might cause this. That bag of flour and that oil are small costs, but these add up. Management wants the owners happy, so that the store gets the things it needs so they can continue to work. Which brings me to my next point. . .
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yeah, thanks, Im sure am glad youre allowing these conditions to continue. you know, instead of reporting these surely well documented cases to whatever health board does your inspections and bringing this matter up. Its great you took a stand, whoop dee do. all that says is youre replaceable when management finds you no longer worth while to deal with and at your professional level you are very easy interchangeable with someone who could give less shits. So instead of doing something about it (getting rid of the higher up who makes the decision, seeing as they're telling you to do these hazardous things) you're just letting it continue. thank you for being part of the problem, and please, dont be surprised when i read that statement and feel no urge to tip you, or ever go to one of your eateries again. I'd rather go to a different one, even if they do the same, because at least they're keeping me in the dark, rather than saying "Yeah, it happens, but I dont really do anything to CHANGE it from ahppening again."
 

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Generally, I tip very good service for people doing jobs I know do not make tip based wages (such as a small ma and pa korean restaurant I love) and tip 15%+ for any people doing jobs I know are tip based (waiters, coffee shops, pizza delivery people), tipping more if I really like how their service. The latter is because I know many states allow you to pay a different minimum wage as long as the rest is made up with tips, a very dumb law in America that serves to make many annoying jobs even worse. Whoever got that through deserves a beating.
 

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TehCookie said:
You get paid to do you job. If you do extra I'll give you extra, but I'm not giving you a tip for doing what you're suppose to be doing. That's what your boss pays you for (unless he doesn't *cough*restaurants*cough* then I will).

The most I'll always do is act nice, I don't get the point of treating them badly.
if youre talking abouta boss doesnt have to pay you min wage because its expected to be made up in tips, then you can actually file to have whatever you didnt get through paycheck+tips. they have to pay you min wage, or at least give you equal to it. especially when people like to try and cheat a tax return by saying tips dont count.
 

Sandjube

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I tip very occasionally, but there's not all that many chances to so so in Australia. If I enjoy a meal however, I make sure I always walk up to the counter and thank the people for a lovely meal.
 

CpT_x_Killsteal

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No I don't tip. If you want the cash you DESERVE then don't vote republican, they'll just get rid of minimum wage.

Also I'm Australian so no one tips here anyways lol
 

Risingblade

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No a tip is reward for doing a good job it's not mandatory. If it takes you 20 minutes to refill my damn drink then kindly fuck off, it's not like I need you there I have legs but nope you can't go get your own food or fill your own drinks in those kinds of places. Now for tipping pizza delivery guys..that's what delivery charge is for...I usually let them keep the change if it's small enough but I never tip them.
 

Metalchic

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my girlfriend works at taco bell... rude customers and customers that hit on her are the norm, there not allowed to accept tips and can be fired for doing so. One of her coworkers was fired recently for accepting a tip...

I understand this policy is in place to prevent begging for tips which was a problem. but she had to sit down with a customer and explain she would get fired for accepting the tip and the result was an unhappy customer where previously there was a very happy customer who wanted to tip.

When i go in i order my food pay for it with my bank card wait for it check it before i leave and if its not right flag someone down (wait for them to look in my direction then wave) and let them know its not what i ordered they usually take it back and give me another that is what i ordered and then leave.

I fail to understand whats so difficult about that where people end up yelling and screaming and such at the person at the register... they don't usually have a lot of power unless there the manager... even then there not all knowing and all powerful.
 

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So you assume the employee working at the fast food is looking out for us? Sure I'm not denying that claim as there are people who think for our concern went eating/ drinking infected meal but I don't believe all of them think the same way.

On topic, no so far I haven't tip anyone because I'm not the one paying the bill.
 

Rawne1980

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newfoundsky said:
(And the UK, I think)
Works differently over here.

In the US, from what I gather, waiting on staff rely on tips for their wage. Here in the UK, waiting on staff have a wage.

If the service is exceptional, problems solved quickly, friendly etc then I may tip. But the vast majority of the time I go out to eat I won't tip. I'm not giving someone money for walking from the kitchen to my table carrying a plate.

The chef did the hard work.

As for delivery folk and the like. They get paid, why the hell would I give them money?

I very rarely tip and when I do it's only if i've had a bit too much to drink or it was flawless service (which is incredibly rare).
 

Angie7F

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Growing up in Australia and Japan, I never tipped.
Basically if the workers are paid enough and the companies are honest enough, your whole argument will be unnecessary.
 

likalaruku

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I always tip. The highest tips I give are based on how much I would hate to have that job & how good the wait staff is at pretending they wish they were anywhere else. I also add pity tips if they look utterly miserable.