You should totally buy 'Ghost Trick' for DS. Yes all of you.

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Vibhor said:
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there's a dead body you ASSUME to be you
You just ruined the story for everyone.
Not really, seeing as that *IS* the guy everyone thinks it is :/
It's only through a later complication that it becomes an issue at all.

Besides, the first paragraph of text in the game says EXACTLY THAT.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Vibhor said:
ZombieGenesis said:
there's a dead body you ASSUME to be you
You just ruined the story for everyone.
Not really, seeing as that *IS* the guy everyone thinks it is :/
It's only through a later complication that it becomes an issue at all.

Besides, the first paragraph of text in the game says EXACTLY THAT.
Go ahead, spoil the story more.
All you need to say is that the game has an interesting story and absurd yet believable premise.
No need to complicate matters any further.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Vibhor said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Vibhor said:
ZombieGenesis said:
there's a dead body you ASSUME to be you
You just ruined the story for everyone.
Not really, seeing as that *IS* the guy everyone thinks it is :/
It's only through a later complication that it becomes an issue at all.

Besides, the first paragraph of text in the game says EXACTLY THAT.
Go ahead, spoil the story more.
All you need to say is that the game has an interesting story and absurd yet believable premise.
No need to complicate matters any further.
Is there perhaps something wrong with your head?
There is absolutely nothing spoiler about anything I've said. The fact the main character wakes up without a memory of who he is gets expressed in the first couple of minutes of gameplay. Before the player is even given control of the game he says "I assume thats me".
The body, the name, his past are all pieces he has to collect as he goes along. That's the entire point of his story arch.

It can only be called a spoiler if you outright SAY what his quest and understanding of the situation leads to.
Have you forgotten the sequence in which
The lamp post assures you that you are the dead man thus making the new player believe that the spirit belongs to the dead man.You highlighted the "assume" too much thus giving the suspicion that a plot twist is somehow related to the dead body
You should not reveal anything except the gameplay as any moment of the story revealed is like losing a percentage of the experience.
 

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Vibhor said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Vibhor said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Vibhor said:
ZombieGenesis said:
there's a dead body you ASSUME to be you
You just ruined the story for everyone.
Not really, seeing as that *IS* the guy everyone thinks it is :/
It's only through a later complication that it becomes an issue at all.

Besides, the first paragraph of text in the game says EXACTLY THAT.
Go ahead, spoil the story more.
All you need to say is that the game has an interesting story and absurd yet believable premise.
No need to complicate matters any further.
Is there perhaps something wrong with your head?
There is absolutely nothing spoiler about anything I've said. The fact the main character wakes up without a memory of who he is gets expressed in the first couple of minutes of gameplay. Before the player is even given control of the game he says "I assume thats me".
The body, the name, his past are all pieces he has to collect as he goes along. That's the entire point of his story arch.

It can only be called a spoiler if you outright SAY what his quest and understanding of the situation leads to.
Have you forgotten the sequence in which
The lamp post assures you that you are the dead man thus making the new player believe that the spirit belongs to the dead man.You highlighted the "assume" too much thus giving the suspicion that a plot twist is somehow related to the dead body
You should not reveal anything except the gameplay as any moment of the story revealed is like losing a percentage of the experience.
You seem to be looking at this from too much of a 'I know the story' outlook.
If you didn't know the story, then when the main character says he assumes it is him, which is then supported by his own investigation and the magic lamp there, that just becomes the logic line of most players.
In putting 'assume' in the summary I was in fact NOT referring to a part of the story, as being told who you were and your purpose by the lamp was one of the first real 'new' elements of the plot. You seem to think I've approached this written explanation from the point of someone who knows what's coming, which is not my intention.

I admit that if you read too much in to what I said, you can suspect it might be important later. However only by drawing attention to my use in the manner you have, does it actually become a problem.
 

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manythings said:
I'll buy DS games when they are finally being sold at a reasonable price.
£15 isn't reasonable...?
I thought it was a god damn steal. I almost felt bad, like I came in just as the game was being discounted because nobody bought it.

I hope that's not the case, of course.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
manythings said:
I'll buy DS games when they are finally being sold at a reasonable price.
£15 isn't reasonable...?
I thought it was a god damn steal. I almost felt bad, like I came in just as the game was being discounted because nobody bought it.

I hope that's not the case, of course.
£15 or you. Here in Ireland getting any (non-shit) DS games, even ones that are years old, will still put me out ?30 if I'm lucky. Still waiting on the latest Professor Layton to come down from ?40.
 

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manythings said:
ZombieGenesis said:
manythings said:
I'll buy DS games when they are finally being sold at a reasonable price.
£15 isn't reasonable...?
I thought it was a god damn steal. I almost felt bad, like I came in just as the game was being discounted because nobody bought it.

I hope that's not the case, of course.
£15 or you. Here in Ireland getting any (non-shit) DS games, even ones that are years old, will still put me out ?30 if I'm lucky. Still waiting on the latest Professor Layton to come down from ?40.
Ouch, seriously?
If I were you I'd jump onto Amazon and order online. Could probably get it dirt cheap by comparison. Always did want to try Layton myself...
 

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Way to post spoilers. Your capitalisation in the first post spoils a key twist of the game.

The game is good, much better than the Pheonix Wright series in that it has much more gameplay and far more interesting plot (IMO the Ace Attorney games have nice atmosphere but lack interesting stories or particularly engaging characters). Ghost Trick has the same wit and great soundtrack with an actually good story and gameplay.

I still prefer games with more depth and character development though (9 hours, 9 persons, 9 doors is nice if you don't mind visual novels), and there isn't that much replay value. Rent and play once rather than buy I would say.
 

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Ugh.

It's only a spoiler if you draw specific attention to the fact it is one... how are people this thick? I did no such thing, but you just outright SAID what happens.
It's like someone watching Fight Club (as per previous example) and yelling SPOILER when someone mentions the narrators mental health problems at the start.

I just... forget it.
Yahtzee was right, good games can draw the worst fans.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Yours seems to be more along the M. Night Shammy line of "oh wow I never saw that coming".
ZombieGenesis said:
It's like when you watch Fight Club. First time through you might not suspect what's really going on. Then once you know, and you see it again, you can spot numerous nods and references to that truth throughout the movie.
You just described the same thing twice. Shyamalan films also have subtle hints and clues towards the 'twist' of the ending.
 

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Judgement101 said:
A good.....DS game? I'm am intrigued.
Erm, what?
The DS has arguably the best gaming library of this generation.


OT: It was good. Not amazing , but it was good.
 

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Radeonx said:
Judgement101 said:
A good.....DS game? I'm am intrigued.
Erm, what?
The DS has arguably the best gaming library of this generation.


OT: It was good. Not amazing , but it was good.
I can't really agree with that because my DS sorta just gathers dust....I really should play it more. Do you recommend the game? I need to expand my DS library.
 

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Judgement101 said:
Radeonx said:
Judgement101 said:
A good.....DS game? I'm am intrigued.
Erm, what?
The DS has arguably the best gaming library of this generation.


OT: It was good. Not amazing , but it was good.
I can't really agree with that because my DS sorta just gathers dust....I really should play it more. Do you recommend the game? I need to expand my DS library.
Ghost Trick was pretty good, I'd pick it up. It is incredibly unique, so I'd get it just for the interesting gameplay mechanics.
It has a pretty good story, to boot.
 

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ZOMBIEGENESIS. Listen. You spoiled it.
It's one thing for the main character to say a phrase in passing, like some Noir self-narrator talking over details excessively during an intro that DOES have a lot of dialog anyway. It's another for you to say the phrase in all caps, winking and nudging.

But it doesn't help that people quoted him so he can't edit it. If anyone's here without having played the game, just turn your mind off when reading the discussion on page 1.

Anyway, yes, it's a very, very good game. All I'd expect from a Phoenix Wright style of game, except with gameplay that ties in much more closely. And, just like Phoenix Wright, it gets some pretty badass soundtracks. UNLIKE Phoenx Wright, this one even had calm tracks that got me rocking to the beat.
 

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Agreed. It was bad enough to mention it at all, but the capitalisation just made it all the more obvious even to someone just skimming the thing. You have to be very careful to avoid spoilers when discussing plot heavy games like this.

And yes the music is great. I like to listen to the soundtrack to psych myself up when doing some work.

If you want to talk other great DS games, The World Ends With You is a great and original RPG and Megaman ZX and Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia are both good action games.

As for the best library, DS definitely has the biggest library, with some great stuff, but doesn't get as much in the way of epic triple-A titles. Still if you want a wide range of genres, especially those under-represented on consoles, its a cheap and excellent addition to your collection.