YouPorn wants to sponsor eSports teams.
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Legally? I don't know. I know that if you're a tobacco company you can't have anything that looks like its advertising for children, and I'm guessing that other "adult" things like alcohol and porn would fall into that category. So it might be legal to begin with. And yes, I know that e-sports isn't for kids, but an argument could be made and that's really all it would require if there is such a law. If it isn't...well, I'd still disagree on the sponsorship, but for a completely different reason.
Really, when you get down to it, the porn industry is a completely corrupt, vile industry. I would feel really uncomfortable in the knowledge that anyone would accept sponsorship from them.
That being said, if it was legally allowed, then yes, that person/team has all rights to do it. Granted, he will have that title of responsibility on his shoulders but it's his (and the company's) choice.
Really, when you get down to it, the porn industry is a completely corrupt, vile industry. I would feel really uncomfortable in the knowledge that anyone would accept sponsorship from them.
That being said, if it was legally allowed, then yes, that person/team has all rights to do it. Granted, he will have that title of responsibility on his shoulders but it's his (and the company's) choice.
List your credible and verifiable sources stating that every company in the industry is corrupt, or else it's just slander.xaszatm said:
Your personal opinion, which taints your claim it is a corrupt industry.xaszatm said:
OT; I don't mind if they started to sponsor teams, it'd be up to the individual teams to decide if they want YouPorn's logo next to their name. There are rules governing what you can put in an advertisement, so I doubt it would be anything too salacious.
You gave yourself the the job by making the assertion. That's how burden of proof works. No one has any rational reason to indulge any assertion if you're not willing to back them up.KingsGambit said:
Using people's unwillingness to take your word on faith alone as evidence that they'll never agree with you is illogical. Under those circumstances, the responses of reasonable people who could be swayed will will be functionally identical those of unreasonable ones who can't. You cannot even start to have a basis for separating the two until you've actually given them something beyond single-valued assertions.
Acting like people are somehow being unreasonable or irrational by not automatically believing you based on nothing but your own projected certainty is itself both irrational an unreasonable. So now they not only don't have an active reason to believe you, but you've also made yourself a witness against your own general credibility by being irrational in how you argue.
Saying stuff like this:
Only makes it worse. Now you either look like A) you did want to make a point, but crumbled at the first sign of challenge and are furiously backpedaling while trying (and failing) to avoid looking like you're backpedaling, or worse, B) you're telling the truth, and by implication do not care if you're ontologically right as long as you can keep FEELING right.
If the former, either pony up, or admit ignorance. If the latter, then go home: no one's going to help you stoke your feelings at their own expense, and if your aim is trick people into letting you feel the warm and fuzzy martyr, you'll only be tricking yourself. These are your only logical moves. Any other response can only be interpreted as evidence for B above.
...Or that you're a troll. That would be symptomatically identical to B, so all the more reason for people to blow you off if your response supports B.
I don't necessarily see a problem with this. My eSport team, that is if I had one, could be called something awesome! You know, like the Trojans.
Ehh. I would rather Pornhub get a sponsorship since I like them more but whatever works for them lol.
Alright, first off, I'm not saying corrupt and vile as if the porn sites are corrupting the minds of young children and what not. I'm talking about the industry itself to its workers, especially its female workers in particular. If someone aspires to be a porn star or if someone is a porn star in the past, I honestly don't care. It's a job and a way to make money. If they want to do it, more power to them.008Zulu said:
Furthermore, trying to make me prove that "every" porn industry is trying to set up one for a fall. It is impossible for one to find every company in the porn industry then prove that it is corrupt. Rather, these problems are considered "universal" as it affects a significant portion of the industry.
Now, as for those websites, I WILL warn that these contents can be considered not safe for work even if no actual porn is shown simply because its content.
For first-hand stories by ex-porn actresses: https://www.shelleylubben.com/pornstars
For a discussion on how larger porn companies coerce smaller ones into merging with them (ie standard business corruption): http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a5432/porn-star-talks-pirating-pornography/
Once again, I'm not saying that pornstars are sucking the souls and minds of people. I have no problems with pornstars themselves. I DO most certainly have a problem when said workers are being exploited by foul business practices, an incredibly misogynistic command structure, and insane fans.
Okay, there isn't going to be tits and 3 way double penetration fucking going on if they just sponsor a team, so calm down. And as someone already said, kids already fuck around with each other. So "YouPorn" isn't going to spoil their fragile poor blissful minds.
Eh. Long as they're not encouraging them to break the law....
Granted, that doesn't change the other issue you mention, of porn being so accessible. Keeping kids away from porn on the internet is like draining the ocean with a kid's pail.
And honestly, I'd rather have them thinking about porn than tobacco.Fappy said:
I'm pretty sure they've altered advertising rules for pornographic material. I mean, I don't know how old you are, but it's probably been since then.MorganL4 said:
Granted, that doesn't change the other issue you mention, of porn being so accessible. Keeping kids away from porn on the internet is like draining the ocean with a kid's pail.
Now I'm thinking of all the possible names they could give someone. And I need a shower. Several showers.Me55enger said:
That is a problem that does need to be dealt with, one way to deal with it would be to stop considering porn to be taboo and anything to do with sex to be immoral like someone else in this thread considers it. it is the attitude that it is immoral and dangerous that keeps the worst exploiters in the business and keeps someone of quality out because of the stigma that "I work in the porn industry" brings with it.xaszatm said:
Porn in itself is not dangerous or immoral, it is just another form of entertainment for those who do not have hangups about sex. Some porn does go over the line such as scat, child, and crush porn but saying because some of it is immoral doesn't mean all of it is. 2 consenting adults fucking on camera is not immoral. If society gets over the moral hangups then the business can be cleaned up by having the correct people running it rather than the most sleazy who do not care about their own image much less the well being of the actors/actresses.
As for Youporn sponsoring a team? Sure why not, it is a legitimate porn site that isn't full of malware. Simply having the logo amongst all the others isn't a big deal.
Bullshit.KingsGambit said:
Everybody* masturbates. Those who say they don't are liars (which I have no problem with - ultimately nobody should give a fuck what other people do when they're alone, or with really, really good friends). Most of those people look at porn - it makes wanking more fun. Like lube, or the occasional "posh wank" (with a condom).
Do some people get addicted to it and find they can no longer function properly as human beings? Yes, same goes for Alcohol, Drugs, Video Games, Food, Running... Pretty much anything. If people do it, then some dickheads get addicted to it and let it ruin their lives.
Doesn't mean it should be banned.
*Not everybody, admittedly, but near as makes no difference, so I apologise to the Asexuals and others who don't enjoy a bit of happy time when they're alone for whatever reason, but I can assure you: You're in the minority, and that's okay, because it doesn't actually fucking matter, the only person who's business it is, is yours.