your "alternate charachter interpretations"

[Warachia]

The Wise One from the Golden Sun series is the ultimate antagonist, and has been manipulating all of the PC's for some unknown end. This includes initially setting Felix and Issac's parties against each other.

I thought that was how it was in the original game, going with how much power the wise one has, and how he flat out cheats the system (as well as letting both parties leaving separately despite being able to effortlessly catch them) made it obvious he was in charge of everything.

 

[Warachia]

but the Romans were the biggest badass empire in history!

No, that would be the Mongol's.

 

[Warachia]

Here's one I have:

Spoiler: Marche of Final FAntasy Tactics Advance

Marche of FFTA:

Marche is the true villain of the game. His friends find a magic book that transforms Earth into a flawed, but still better than Earth world. Each of his friends gets what they wish for deep in their hearts (getting their family back, losing a feature they were mocked over, having a chance to actually have adventures, being able to WALK again, etc), and what does Marche (who doesn't have any major problems like some of his friends do) decide to do? LET'S JUST TURN THE WORLD BACK TO THE OLD WAY, EVEN IF MY FRIENDS ARE GOING TO SUFFER FOR IT. Why? Because this fantasy world isn't "real".

Granted, Ivalice wasn't perfect. There were corrupt asshole judges, the royal family was full of jerks, and there were criminal gangs and monsters. But most of these problems could have been FIXED. Ivalice is soooo much better than Earth. And yet he REFUSED to see the bigger picture, and didn't really try to put himself in the shoes of his friends who would lose so much more than him if the world went back. All because he didn't believe that Ivalice was "real", and thus it was all just escapism.

News Flash, Marche. That's a MASSIVE DICK MOVE. It's called EMPATHY, you dolt. You're a very nice guy already, so why the heck can't you empathize?!

...This character interpretation makes the game's "meh" story much much better.

Oh, and speak of the devil, someone else had the same idea!

Spoiler: Marche (FFTA

In Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced the player character Marche is an evil villain attempting to destroy the world who has deluded himself into thinking it would save everyone.

Yeah, that works too.

That interpretation could be argued to be a correct one, in the post game you are back in the magic world, with Marche (and everyone else) living quite happily in it, you could look at this as a different ending where he chose not to destroy the world.

 

[Eddie the head]

Just so you're aware, Lonesome Road is all about the backstory of the Courier.

I won't spoil it, but suffice to say there's a lot of character building for the PC all throughout the thing. It's phenomenally well done. Definitely check it out if you haven't yet.

awsome...I always felt I would have liked some background for my courier...Ive been meaning to check out the NV DLC's but just havnt gotten round to it

Where as I do like Lonesome road, I will say Old World Blues gives you a better Idea of how your courier thinks. And that it would be a good idea to play through them chronologically. IE in the order they where released in. Dead Money, Honest Heart, Old world Blues, then Lonesome road. It's all one nutritive, not that you need to play the previous ones but, it helps.

 

[Hjalmar Fryklund]

Here's one I have:

Spoiler: Marche of Final FAntasy Tactics Advance

Marche of FFTA:

Marche is the true villain of the game. His friends find a magic book that transforms Earth into a flawed, but still better than Earth world. Each of his friends gets what they wish for deep in their hearts (getting their family back, losing a feature they were mocked over, having a chance to actually have adventures, being able to WALK again, etc), and what does Marche (who doesn't have any major problems like some of his friends do) decide to do? LET'S JUST TURN THE WORLD BACK TO THE OLD WAY, EVEN IF MY FRIENDS ARE GOING TO SUFFER FOR IT. Why? Because this fantasy world isn't "real".

Granted, Ivalice wasn't perfect. There were corrupt asshole judges, the royal family was full of jerks, and there were criminal gangs and monsters. But most of these problems could have been FIXED. Ivalice is soooo much better than Earth. And yet he REFUSED to see the bigger picture, and didn't really try to put himself in the shoes of his friends who would lose so much more than him if the world went back. All because he didn't believe that Ivalice was "real", and thus it was all just escapism.

News Flash, Marche. That's a MASSIVE DICK MOVE. It's called EMPATHY, you dolt. You're a very nice guy already, so why the heck can't you empathize?!

...This character interpretation makes the game's "meh" story much much better.

That's probably how a good couple of his friends see him before he brings them around to his point of view. Though with Ivalice as a world being poorly established, it is hard to say how valid it is as an interpretation of him.

 

[Relish in Chaos]

The ?Other World? (hint, hint) in Coraline is actually limbo, and the evil witch disguised as Coraline?s ?Other Mother? governs that dimension. The "Other Father" and "Other Wybie", portrayed as unwilling slaves to the "beldam", may actually be tortured souls configured by her to look like familiar people from Coraline's world.

 

[Misterian]

For those that are into those 'Trollestia' or 'Molestia' interpretations, I will say I highly disagree with you on that, but I do have my views on how I see Princess Celestia from MLP:FiM.

You know these Friendship reports that you see in most of the show, right? I believe Celestia is actually having Twilight doing them primarily for Twilight's own sake. Things like the Elements of Harmony and defeating Nightmare Moon and Discord were really convenient by-products that Celestia knew she could take advantage of.

So while I utterly refuse to believe Celestia is a troll, I will agree with anyone that believes, as I do, that She plans alot more than she lets on, but even then her intentions are strictly benign.

 

[Mister K]

Here's a Blazblue theory.
(MIGHT BE SPOILERS SO BE CAREFUL IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED CONTINUUM SHIFT YET)

Hazama and Relius are actually as much a victim of their plan as anyone else. They are not in control of it at all and are just puppets to a higher power they created. In the events of Continuum Shift they are just reacting to the change in power and presumably the plan has changed because of this.

Of course this is all speculation.

Maybe, maybe...
Lets hope that Chrono Phantasma will clear things out a bit.

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

I've been preaching Yahtzee's "Pokemon characters all have chips in their heads to make them not realise they are actually living in a hellish dystopian nightmare world" for years. Since I was maybe 10. I was a fucked up ten year old.

My most recent would be thus:

Spoiler: Spoilers for ac3, sorry

Desmond Miles is SUPPOSED to be the next christ. But because he's aetheist, he chooses death instead of ironic Jesus-hood.

 

[GrimGrimoire]

but the Romans were the biggest badass empire in history!

No, that would be the Mongol's.

No. that would be the British.

The protagonist in Pokemon Emerald is a complete douchebag.
I'm not talking about beating up animals, trapping them in balls, being their "friends" and making them inflict the same upon other animals, or the fact that pokemon is post-apocalyptic, and that you are effectively being a vigilante and to some extent disstabilise what is left of Japan.
I'm talking about Wally.
Wally is a lonely, sickly boy living with his parents in Petalburg. He has a severe lung illness and needs a mask to breathe, and most likely can't use Fly because of the thin air.
You help him catch his first Pokemon, a Ralts. You inspire him, you make him want to see the world, to believe in himself, believe that he can be great, even with his sickness.
Wally is great, he is humble, hardworking, friendly and helpful. Wally never taunts you or is mean to you in any way. He's just a good guy.
He helps the protagonist from Ruby win a battle, and helps Ruby's father Norman at Sky Pillar.

After you first help him you meet again at Mauville City, where he is working hard, trying to convince his uncle that he is ready to take his first badge. He spots you, his friend and idol, and challenges you to prove to his uncle that he is ready, that his sickness isn't a boundary.
And you beat him.
You humiliate him in front of his uncle.
And you continue to beat him.
Every.
Single.
Time.
He's a sick, ten years old boy.

Eventually, you meet one last time at Victory Road, where he, despite his illness and your interference, he has made it to the Pokemon league. He tries to challenge you one last time, to show you how strong he has become.
And you pulverise him with a Lvl 70+ legendary weather dragon god.
Wally never leaves that cave, even though he is right next to the entrance. He can't fly, and even if he travels home, what should he say? That he was beaten into the dust by his "friend" time and time again?

 

[Little Woodsman]

For those that are into those 'Trollestia' or 'Molestia' interpretations, I will say I highly disagree with you on that, but I do have my views on how I see Princess Celestia from MLP:FiM.

You know these Friendship reports that you see in most of the show, right? I believe Celestia is actually having Twilight doing them primarily for Twilight's own sake. Things like the Elements of Harmony and defeating Nightmare Moon and Discord were really convenient by-products that Celestia knew she could take advantage of.

So while I utterly refuse to believe Celestia is a troll, I will agree with anyone that believes, as I do, that She plans alot more than she lets on, but even then her intentions are strictly benign.

Woo-hoo! I've been ninja'd for the first time!
I also think that a lot of the tasks Celestia gives TS&co are due to the fact that she has a deeper understanding of the nature of the elements of harmony than anyone else, and it is this
magic that brings the primary cast through so many difficult situations.
I also think that there had to be more to the whole story of sending her sister to the moon for
a thousand years than is readily apparent--I mean as soon as Luna's darker aspect was removed
Celestia invited her to become co-ruler of the kingdom again, without one word of recrimination.

 

[Little Woodsman]

is there a charachter in any media who you see in a completly different way? weather for fun or you think there may be some merit to your Idea of what they are like

Well, I assume you're talking about video game characters rather than characters from elsewhere, but I've been rewatching Utena again, so screw it.

Also, being that the thread is already on page 2, I know that the chances of any Utena fans actually seeing my post are almost nil. But what the hell, let's do this.

Shiori, from Revolutionary Girl Utena.

Normally viewed as a horrible ***** who is mean to Juri because... well, most people go with "because she's a *****" and leave it at that.

Me, I go a bit deeper.

See, the thing with Shiori is that she keeps dating men who she thinks Juri likes. She does this first before she knows that Juri is a lesbian (and in love with Shiori), but then she does it again after she learns the truth.

If she's just being a *****, why would she do that again when she already knows that Juri doesn't give two shits about guys?

My theory: Shiori is gay or bisexual too. Shiori has placed Juri in the "Male" role - Juri wears school uniform with pants instead of a skirt, and is one of the top athletes on campus - while Shiori has cast herself as the "female". She wants Juri to ask her out, but since she's the "girl" she can't ask Juri - Juri has to ask her. So Shiori says to herself "how do you get boys to ask you out?" Answer: make them jealous.

So Shiori keeps dating guys in front of Juri in an attempt to make Juri jealous enough to ask her out.

The problem? Juri assumes that Shiori is straight (because she keeps dating men) and so stays firmly in the closet and broods.

Shiori, seeing a lack of reaction, ups the ante and tries harder to make Juri jealous, dating someone she knows Juri dislikes.

When that guy publicly humiliates Shiori, Juri goes and tries to force him to take Shiori back to "make Shiori happy" at Juri's own expense.

And thus the viscous cycle continues. Shiori keeps trying to get Juri to react, and each attempt only makes Juri question whether or not she should just cut her losses and find someone else.

Much of this interpretation is based on Shiori's actions and motivations - as well as one line where Shiori screams at a mirror "It's not enough! Why won't Juri just tell me how she feels?!" This scene is immediately after she learns that Juri is gay and has feelings for her, by the way.

Ahem.

Anyway, I've wanted to talk about that for a bit, so thanks Vault 101 for giving me the chance to.

And if you are a fan of Revolutionary Girl Utena, please feel free to chime in. If you're reading this far into the thread.

....

Your take on Shiori is pretty much identical to what everyone in the anime club I went to had
when watching the show, so, yeah gotta agree.
You know what's really fun to do with Utena? Watch it with someone who's never seen it before
and watch the new viewer's expressions throughout--it's amazing fun.
Love your avatar, btw.

 

[game-lover]

Spoiler: Dante

Dante (The DMC1 and DMC 3 versions of Dante that is) is a actually incredibly cunning and powerful demon slayer who plays up the cocky attitude in order to hide what a badass he really is.

That's an alternate interpretation?? Then what was he supposed to be like before?!

 

[David Huff]

The silent protagonist in all those FPS's really isn't silent.
He just doesn't like to talk much, and can often think of a good joke, but he thinks what he says might be out of place. He lacks the courage do what he thinks is right, and feels almost as if he is being controlled by someone else, playing into his self-doubt that he can do nothing right. He has a low self esteem and fears for his life, but as a "manly man" of his culture, he must suck it up and be quiet, as Sergeant yells at him one more time to do everything. He wishes he could be in greater terms of friendship with his fellows, but the only time he's really around them is when the bullets fly, and then they all seem the same.
He sometimes fears what he does, of how mechanical and price it is--how he guns down dozens of screaming soldiers without a second thought and of how he can simply shrug off bullets to the point of nigh invulnerability. He is scared what he can do, the destruction he can bring, the weapons he fields and the enemies he kills. God knows no fury, and he fears when the barrel is pointed at him.

He is a god of war. And he is afraid.

Holy shit you just fucking blew my mind just wow, I see everything so differently now.

 

[Lonewolfm16]

but the Romans were the biggest badass empire in history!

No, that would be the Mongol's.

They were both badasses in the same way the Nazis were during WWII yes they were competent fighters who conquered large ammounts of land, and they had the advantage that nothing was too immoral for them to do if it gave them a advantage, but they were also clear examples of horrible barbaity and evil.

 

[redmoretrout]

I'm not sure if this counts as an alternate character interpretation, since Liquid directly brings it into question, but Solid Snake does not fight for any of the usual nonsense that Solid says in his soliloquy at the end of his games. Solid Snake does not fight for hope, freedom, or a better tomorrow. He fights because he was designed for it. He was built to be a fighter and he finds a perverse and sadistic joy in murder. He continually soul searches and attempts to convince himself he is fighting for a noble cause, and that this mission will be his last. But, both the audience and himself(maybe subconsciously) know but it won't be.

Everyone knows that Solid Snake will return and he will continue his fight regardless of the political situation or what conspiracies he discovers in the course of his adventures. He fights because it is a part of him, he was designed for it, and will die dying doing it.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

Gordon Freeman talks. Frequently. You just can't hear him. In half life 2 almost every character is immediately friendly towards him or warms up to him, and several even claim they go way back as if he were the life of the party, so obviously he has talked in the past. If Gordon honestly strolled around silently as he brutally murdered everything in his path with a crowbar, they would still think him an asset of course, but his allies would most likely find him intimidating rather than endearing. There never seems to be any sense of caution or uncertainty when someone demands the armored up bifocaled death machine do their bidding so I'm guessing he doesn't just coldly stare at them with his weapon raised to their throat like people assume.

 

[GodzillaGuy92]

the spartan program was started well before the Covenant war started. the Spartans were created to put down the anti-UNSC rebellion, not defend the human race from aliens.

True, but the Carver findings predicted that the Insurrection would eventually escalate to the point that it would rip human society apart. Remember how a single terrorist attack on a major city killed two million people and injured another eight million? It's only after the Carver findings came to light that the original Spartan project was relaunched. So the aim was always to prevent humanity's destruction, even if the whole morally-iffy child soldier thing didn't come up until the SPARTAN-II program a few decades later.

You know these Friendship reports that you see in most of the show, right? I believe Celestia is actually having Twilight doing them primarily for Twilight's own sake. Things like the Elements of Harmony and defeating Nightmare Moon and Discord were really convenient by-products that Celestia knew she could take advantage of.

Not sure if it's just me, but that's the impression I had about the friendship reports since the very beginning. Celestia's been around for thousands of years, is presented as basically infallible in her wisdom, and was the one to tell Twilight to make some friends in the first place, so obviously she understands the value of friendship. The interpretation of her that most intrigues me is, in fact, the exact inverse; thousands of years of ruling Equestria (the last thousand of which she had to do alone) have driven an insurmountable wedge between the princess and the subjects she's dedicated her life to, and Twilight's letters provide a means for her to vicariously reconnect with the ponies she can no longer approach or understand without aid.

To be honest, I don't believe it to nearly the described extent; it matches the available evidence and all, but we've never truly gotten any indication that Celestia is anything less than the cheerful prankster we've all come to know, much less an empty shell projecting a facade of content in order to mask her crippling loneliness. But at the same time, there is a pretty clear line between Celestia and her subjects, so I would be remiss in saying that there's nothing at all to the theory.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

The protagonist of Dragon's Dogma is actually braindead and is hardly able to form a coherent thought. This would explain why they follow up on everything that is so much as hinted at, have no problems sleeping with the duchess, never say anything and instead of leaping into action as a hero would, simply stand around mouth agape while zombies eat people and

Spoiler

are accused of treason

.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

Your take on Shiori is pretty much identical to what everyone in the anime club I went to had
when watching the show, so, yeah gotta agree.
You know what's really fun to do with Utena? Watch it with someone who's never seen it before
and watch the new viewer's expressions throughout--it's amazing fun.
Love your avatar, btw.

Yay! Someone who actually gets what I'm talking about! ^^

And yes, showing the series to someone and watching how they react to things is wonderful. Particularly the episode about delivering flowers to the amusement park. I love the "wait, did I just see what I think I saw?!" reaction.

Anyway, that's actually pretty awesome - I haven't talked to a lot of people who saw that deeply into Shiori. ^^

As for my avatar - thanks! Do you read "In Which Shadowjack Watches Sailor Moon" as well (which is where my avatar is from)? Speaking of alternative character interpretations, his are pretty awesome. I won't say more unless you've already read - don't want to spoil them for you.