Your best friend tells you they killed someone
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Surely you still respect other people in some way even without knowing about them anything else than that they exist? I at least expect that I as a person can be acknowledged by others to have some form of inherent value, just as I acknowledge the inherent value of any other person. You may value the people closer to you more than the ones that are not, which I understand and tend to agree with to a certain degree, but I don't think that should stop you from also valuing others as well.FelixG said:
In the case of murder I can't agree. I would lose most all respect toward by alleged best friend if they actually felt some form of satisfaction after murdering another person in cold blood, no matter how afwul they had experienced them to be. Even in a situtation in which the murder itself had for some unthinkable reason been 'necessary' I should expect them to feel some form of remorse. If not for the murder itself then at least for the regrettable situtation that had demanded it.
My best friend?
Killing someone voluntarily?
Well, knowing him, he would never, EVER take a life.
So if he actually did... I'm pretty damn sure he had it coming.
Probably a "Freddy Krueger" case, a child murderer released on a technicality.
So yeah, I'd help him out any way I can.
Killing someone voluntarily?
Well, knowing him, he would never, EVER take a life.
So if he actually did... I'm pretty damn sure he had it coming.
Probably a "Freddy Krueger" case, a child murderer released on a technicality.
So yeah, I'd help him out any way I can.
Well the threads already pretty much over here.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Depends why they did it. If he just walked up to some random guy and cut his throat I think I'd beat him into the ground and call the cops.
If the guy he killed raped his wife or some other such dreadful crime I think I'd be helping dispose of the parts the pigs didn't eat.
Edit: Honetly if such a situation occured t'would be my friend stabbing the guy who raped her in the eyes, so I'd probably help out.
Me I would help them And then kill them before they can work out how I know to dispose of a body
Or I would help them I mean they did the same thing for my last week
Or I would help them I mean they did the same thing for my last week
It's reassuring to know most of the Escapist community is okay with murder as long as it's done by someone they like.
I don't think killing someone makes anyone insane. I'd assist my friend as much as I could. I am not a moral paragon and will proclaim to be one. I want my friends out of jail so i can chill with them, not in jail where I can't talk to them. That would be lame.
I'd scoot him out the door, close it, and stop socializing with this individual. I don't wanna associate with a murderer, but I am not willing to be the one sending him to jail (In case I become his next hit).
I'd deploy rational thinking and unwavering efficiency. Disposing of the body would be the first and most important step. Nothing a handful of industrial plastic bags, a 2L container of bleach, a sharp blade and a shovel won't solve. Then I'd take him to a bar and ask him an assortment of question, the answers to which would determine weather I break his nose or pat him on the back. Either way he is my best friend and he will have to live the rest of his life with the knowledge and memory of what he did. The last words I'd say about it would be that if he ever has the need to talk about it, he should call me and no one else and I will never speak of that day again, unless he does. A person only has ONE best friend and to me that title commands unquestionable loyalty and trust.
captcha: no brainer
EDIT: Made the post, then read all the comments and DAMN there are some interesting cases. I specifically mean those people who would turn their best friend in without even asking questions and the few that were confused as to who or what we are talking about here... We are not discussing friends or bros or someone you met while in the pub. This is your BEST friend, someone you've known for years, who has shared in your triumphs and failures and stuck by you when you most needed it... How is it even possible to mistake or even have doubts about someone like that...? Even worse, people who would turn their best friend over because of morale or ethics. To me that just means that there is no one in your life that has been important enough to you to transcend law, government and all that subjective stuff, which is sad and is completely on YOU for not being worthy of that kind of relationship.
I've known my best friend for 15 years. We've stuck by one another through violence, sickness, relationships, growing up and changing, different jobs and university... I put a man in the hospital to protect a friend he didn't like but it was him that posted my bail and not the one I protected. Because of all these things I know him to the bone. I know how he thinks, why he does what he does and the same applies to him.
Lastly, for those who hold murder in such high disregard. I don't blame you, there are places in this world that would have you believe deeply in morality, law and government systems. Sadly, there are those other places that are on the exact opposite side of the spectrum and failing to understand that is terrible in itself. I need to see the world in shades of grey to live where I live and because of that I've understood that when it comes to people's ugly side murder is actually not that high on the list of atrocities.
captcha: no brainer
EDIT: Made the post, then read all the comments and DAMN there are some interesting cases. I specifically mean those people who would turn their best friend in without even asking questions and the few that were confused as to who or what we are talking about here... We are not discussing friends or bros or someone you met while in the pub. This is your BEST friend, someone you've known for years, who has shared in your triumphs and failures and stuck by you when you most needed it... How is it even possible to mistake or even have doubts about someone like that...? Even worse, people who would turn their best friend over because of morale or ethics. To me that just means that there is no one in your life that has been important enough to you to transcend law, government and all that subjective stuff, which is sad and is completely on YOU for not being worthy of that kind of relationship.
I've known my best friend for 15 years. We've stuck by one another through violence, sickness, relationships, growing up and changing, different jobs and university... I put a man in the hospital to protect a friend he didn't like but it was him that posted my bail and not the one I protected. Because of all these things I know him to the bone. I know how he thinks, why he does what he does and the same applies to him.
Lastly, for those who hold murder in such high disregard. I don't blame you, there are places in this world that would have you believe deeply in morality, law and government systems. Sadly, there are those other places that are on the exact opposite side of the spectrum and failing to understand that is terrible in itself. I need to see the world in shades of grey to live where I live and because of that I've understood that when it comes to people's ugly side murder is actually not that high on the list of atrocities.
I don't have a best friend, but if I did it would depend on what sort of bond we had.
Replies would vary between "Where do you want to hide the body?" and "Keep me the fuck out of this and go to the police" possibly depending on how long we've been best friends and what they've done for me in the past.
It's a lot to carry on your shoulders for the rest of your life, and if they're found out then you could get in a lot of shit too.
Replies would vary between "Where do you want to hide the body?" and "Keep me the fuck out of this and go to the police" possibly depending on how long we've been best friends and what they've done for me in the past.
It's a lot to carry on your shoulders for the rest of your life, and if they're found out then you could get in a lot of shit too.
No offense, but if it was my girlfriend's ex, I probably helped.
Other occasions, I'm not rightly sure as it may rest with circumstances.
Other occasions, I'm not rightly sure as it may rest with circumstances.
I guess it would depend on what happened (say, in self defense), but I'd probably try to convince them to turn themselves in, for their sake, while staying the hell out of it.
Well, first thing I'd probably do is ask if they know of a good sized pig farm with ease of access and a lazy farmer...
It depends really. All my friends are people that I've only known for for about four years now, but I don't judge my friends based on how long I've known them, rather on how well I know I can rely on them, and how much I'd do for them in return. For my very best friends, I know them well enough to know that the circumstances in which they might kill someone are quite different. In most cases I probably wouldn't turn them in, but I know which ones I would expect to support just for old time's sake, and which I would help because fuck it, they were probably in the right.
And naturally I would demand a lot of information before I do anything as rash as help them bury a body or turn my back on them as a friend.
It depends really. All my friends are people that I've only known for for about four years now, but I don't judge my friends based on how long I've known them, rather on how well I know I can rely on them, and how much I'd do for them in return. For my very best friends, I know them well enough to know that the circumstances in which they might kill someone are quite different. In most cases I probably wouldn't turn them in, but I know which ones I would expect to support just for old time's sake, and which I would help because fuck it, they were probably in the right.
And naturally I would demand a lot of information before I do anything as rash as help them bury a body or turn my back on them as a friend.
I am of the opinion that murder is only justifiable if it is in protection of yourself or someone else. If my friend didn't murder someone else for the previous reasons I would try to convince them to turn themselves in. And if they refused I would phone the police. It sucks and your friend certainly won't thank you for it, but everyone has to go through the consequences of their actions. I'm not going to help grant them a free pass and risk my own well-being simply because they are my friend, as difficult as that would be.
However, while they are in prison and after they are released, I will help them get settled back down again and readjusting to society if I can. Assuming they forgive me, of course.
However, while they are in prison and after they are released, I will help them get settled back down again and readjusting to society if I can. Assuming they forgive me, of course.
Not a dilemma at all.
I tell them to turn themselves in. I tell them I'll help them deal with whatever comes as the aftermath. I tell them no, I'm not helping them conceal evidence because they need to own up and take responsibility for their own action, which is the same as I'd expect others to tell me.
Sorry, but if you killed someone, you need to be called to account.
And quit it with the "But what if it was a child molester" hypothetical. What if it wasn't (which is more likely, considering there a lot more people who are not child molesters out there than those that are)?
But let me run a thought by you. I implicitly trust my friends to not be killers. So if friend of mine commits murder, they kinda shook up that trust a bit.
I tell them to turn themselves in. I tell them I'll help them deal with whatever comes as the aftermath. I tell them no, I'm not helping them conceal evidence because they need to own up and take responsibility for their own action, which is the same as I'd expect others to tell me.
Sorry, but if you killed someone, you need to be called to account.
And quit it with the "But what if it was a child molester" hypothetical. What if it wasn't (which is more likely, considering there a lot more people who are not child molesters out there than those that are)?
But let me run a thought by you. I implicitly trust my friends to not be killers. So if friend of mine commits murder, they kinda shook up that trust a bit.