I can't believe I didn't think of Grandma's Hands. Such a great song.nick n stuff said:throw a curve ball here. metal fan announcing his ultimate sad song.
Bill Withers: Grandma's Hands
Cos he don't have Grandma anymore. If he get to heaven he'll look for, Grandma's Hands.
touching stuff.
I wouldn't say Alice in Chains are nihilistic; that implies that they have no emotional attachment to the content of the song. A lot of AIC's stuff is very meaningful, for example, No Excuses is about how Jerry and Layne used to fight a lot, but they always ended up forgiving each other, regardless of what they were fighting about. I'm not doing the whole "think before you talk" thing, just saying that I never really heard anything in AIC's music that made me think of it as nihilistic; there's just too much emotion poured into the songwriting for it to be that, though I can see your angle.blindthrall said:Really? I think Black is a much more depressing song. There's alot of depressing Pearl Jam songs, something they have in common with...Shockolate said:Alive by Pearl Jam. Not so much sad as it is melancholy sounding. It makes me feel real down, right until the awesome free-style guitar solo, which kicks ass. MAJOR ASSAGE!...except with Alice in Chains, it's tempered by the nihilism. Is it really sad if the subject just doesn't care anymore?HitsWithStyxx said:Nutshell by Alice in Chains. The MTV Unplugged version has my eyes blurring up by the breakdown. :')
Comfortably Numb always gets me, especially the lines:
"When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
The child has grown the dream is gone"
In a classical vein, Marche Slav by Tchaikovsky. He condensed a whole lot of Russian suffering into that piece, and that's before Communism.
Something I Can Never Have by NIN is good, because it sounds so empty and lonely. It's the best song about a person you loved and lost.
But I think Mad World tops them all. It's just so hauntingly beautiful.
I see your point. Fatalistic would have been better word choice. I'm not sure it's tragedy when the subject has given up hope. It's sad, but not as sad as someone who is still trying.HitsWithStyxx said:I wouldn't say Alice in Chains are nihilistic; that implies that they have no emotional attachment to the content of the song. A lot of AIC's stuff is very meaningful, for example, No Excuses is about how Jerry and Layne used to fight a lot, but they always ended up forgiving each other, regardless of what they were fighting about. I'm not doing the whole "think before you talk" thing, just saying that I never really heard anything in AIC's music that made me think of it as nihilistic; there's just too much emotion poured into the songwriting for it to be that, though I can see your angle.blindthrall said:Really? I think Black is a much more depressing song. There's alot of depressing Pearl Jam songs, something they have in common with...Shockolate said:Alive by Pearl Jam. Not so much sad as it is melancholy sounding. It makes me feel real down, right until the awesome free-style guitar solo, which kicks ass. MAJOR ASSAGE!...except with Alice in Chains, it's tempered by the nihilism. Is it really sad if the subject just doesn't care anymore?HitsWithStyxx said:Nutshell by Alice in Chains. The MTV Unplugged version has my eyes blurring up by the breakdown. :')
Comfortably Numb always gets me, especially the lines:
"When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
The child has grown the dream is gone"
In a classical vein, Marche Slav by Tchaikovsky. He condensed a whole lot of Russian suffering into that piece, and that's before Communism.
Something I Can Never Have by NIN is good, because it sounds so empty and lonely. It's the best song about a person you loved and lost.
But I think Mad World tops them all. It's just so hauntingly beautiful.
I will agree with you that Mad World is an exceptional song.
Better word choice, yes, but I still wouldn't say "fatalistic", because that implies that they don't cover anything other than their own mortality in their music. And although some songs do indeed relate heavily to this, I don't think that ALL of their stuff is like that, especially the acoustic EPs. I think I'd borrow a term from Shockolate and say that they have a sound that's very melancholy.blindthrall said:I see your point. Fatalistic would have been better word choice. I'm not sure it's tragedy when the subject has given up hope. It's sad, but not as sad as someone who is still trying.HitsWithStyxx said:I wouldn't say Alice in Chains are nihilistic; that implies that they have no emotional attachment to the content of the song. A lot of AIC's stuff is very meaningful, for example, No Excuses is about how Jerry and Layne used to fight a lot, but they always ended up forgiving each other, regardless of what they were fighting about. I'm not doing the whole "think before you talk" thing, just saying that I never really heard anything in AIC's music that made me think of it as nihilistic; there's just too much emotion poured into the songwriting for it to be that, though I can see your angle.blindthrall said:Really? I think Black is a much more depressing song. There's alot of depressing Pearl Jam songs, something they have in common with...Shockolate said:Alive by Pearl Jam. Not so much sad as it is melancholy sounding. It makes me feel real down, right until the awesome free-style guitar solo, which kicks ass. MAJOR ASSAGE!...except with Alice in Chains, it's tempered by the nihilism. Is it really sad if the subject just doesn't care anymore?HitsWithStyxx said:Nutshell by Alice in Chains. The MTV Unplugged version has my eyes blurring up by the breakdown. :')
Comfortably Numb always gets me, especially the lines:
"When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
The child has grown the dream is gone"
In a classical vein, Marche Slav by Tchaikovsky. He condensed a whole lot of Russian suffering into that piece, and that's before Communism.
Something I Can Never Have by NIN is good, because it sounds so empty and lonely. It's the best song about a person you loved and lost.
But I think Mad World tops them all. It's just so hauntingly beautiful.
I will agree with you that Mad World is an exceptional song.
OT: How about Fell on Black Days?