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gorfias

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Leanord Maltin called "To Live and Die in LA" a bomb. I disagree and just watched this awesome clip:

The movie is so much fun and well done.

I'm looking for more fun in inappropriately vilified movies. All the better if they are on netflix streaming.

You favorites?
 

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Also by William Friedkin: "Sorcerer". Unfairly maligned movie that went over budget, was poorly marketed as another esoteric flick by the director of The Exorcist (it's not) and had the bad luck of being released on the same week as Star Wars. It's actually a great movie.
 

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Batman and Robin.

Very sill movie with OtT acting and garish lighting, but it was supposed to be. Comic heroes don't have to be serious, there's an inherent silliness to them at the best of times.
 

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Oh by, so many to choose from. Hmm...

If we're going by "favorite vilified movie(s) I think are actually good," well, the Star Wars Prequels come to mind, but that's more of them being a net positive for me. I'm not sure if I'd call the first two "good," but they weren't "bad" either in my mind. But if I'm choosing a single movie in this category, for me, it would probably be Alien 3. For me, it's one of the most criminally underrated movies out there, at least going by the director's cut. Not as good as the first two, but to me, it rounds out what came before into a good trilogy, and where I'm genuinely lamenting the notion of it being retconned by whatever Blokamp wants to do with the series.

If we're going by movies that I don't think are good, but still like elements of...hmm...well, the safe bet that comes to mind for me is Spider-Man 3. An "okay" movie for me that's weaker than the first two, but yes, I still like the movie. However, getting into the dregs, of movies I know are objectively bad, but can still enjoy elements of (not as in "so bad it's good," but rather "I know this movie is bad, but I think this moment/series of moments is actually good within it," or something similar, then it's a three-way tie between:

-Battlefield Earth
-Jupiter Ascending
-...the Last Airbender.

...I'll see myself out. :)
 

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I rather enjoyed M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village" though people often think it was terrible. I liked it; the cinematography was generally good, it's the only movie I can stand seeing Adrien Brody in, the music was phenomenal and I just liked the feel of it. Also Joaquin Phoenix.
 

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I consider the movie Street Fighter to be a genuinely good film. Regarded as a live-action version of cheesy cartoons, it's awesome.
 

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Spider RedNight said:
I rather enjoyed M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village" though people often think it was terrible. I liked it; the cinematography was generally good, it's the only movie I can stand seeing Adrien Brody in, the music was phenomenal and I just liked the feel of it. Also Joaquin Phoenix.
Agreed, when I first watched it I already had it spoiled for me, but still really enjoyed it. Especially the forest scene near the end where the 'monster' finds the heroine...

Have to agree with 'Good Bad Flicks' on Event Horizon. Gore a little much, but was just right in atmosphere. I even reckon 'Interstellar' quoted it when they tried to explain wormhole/space folding physics. Yeah, I called it Interstellar. Actually I didn't overly mind Interstellar either though. Probably because I watched it with friends.
 

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Spider RedNight said:
I rather enjoyed M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village" though people often think it was terrible. I liked it; the cinematography was generally good, it's the only movie I can stand seeing Adrien Brody in, the music was phenomenal and I just liked the feel of it. Also Joaquin Phoenix.
For me it would probably be The Lady in the Water. I actually enjoyed this movie. I dunno, hearing it was "a bedtime story", made me just assume things were going to be fanciful and weird, 'cause you know, bedtime story. I've heard people complaining that the mythology presented in the movie is all weird and bizarre, but it didn't seem any weirder than Pan's Labyrinth, and everyone loved that movie.

Another one I genuinely enjoyed was Van Helsing. I'm sorry but this was just a fun, funny romp for me. The villain was deliciously over the top, and chewed up every scene he was in. Van Helsing's sidekick was competent and actually useful, and he got laid where I hero didn't.

Mortal Kombat 1 & Annihilation.

Yeah, I liked them both. They had lame parts in them sure, but they had good fighting scenes, good music for a lot of it, and I liked how in Annihilation, they explain about why it's called Mortal Kombat. "In the end, it shall be decided how it always has been, in Mortal Kombat" The Mortal Realm, if you want to take it, whether you follow the rules of the tournament or not, you will always have to win it by mortal rules, which means to take the realm YOU WILL BE MORTAL. No matter how powerful a god you are, when you step foot into the Mortal Realm, you fight as a mortal. That's the leveling of the playing field. I really enjoyed that, as it gave the title a bit more depth of concept, not just "we kill each other".
 

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One of my favorite movies of all time is 'Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within'. I have only ever met one other person in real life who says they liked it, and I sell dvds so it comes up a lot. I've had people tell me they can no longer be my friend (jokingly) after finding out.

And I've never understood why it is so hated my so many, to me it was a really good movie.
 

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Gorfias said:
Leanord Maltin
Well, he also gave very BAD movies more than one star, like even three, so the man has no perspective.

Queen Michael said:
Street Fighter
While I didn't like the movie, I gained respect for the actor who played M. Bison. I learned that he was dying and that he wanted to leave behind something for his kids. And frankly, there were bits that made his part good. "But for me, it was Tuesday" is a line that will last forever.

Happyninja42 said:
Mortal Kombat 1
Actually good movie, and other people thought so.

Bobular said:
One of my favorite movies of all time is 'Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within'. I have only ever met one other person in real life who says they liked it, and I sell dvds so it comes up a lot. I've had people tell me they can no longer be my friend (jokingly) after finding out.

And I've never understood why it is so hated my so many, to me it was a really good movie.
Now, you've met two people.

OT: I'm going to point out that I, of course, watch bad movies for the sheer amount of cheese and make-fun-ability. That includes everything Riff Trax and MST3K, of course.
 

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Howard the Duck

That movie's great, I don't care what anybody says. Yeah, it has duck boobs, but that seems only "natural" in a universe with humanoid ducks. Yeah, it has some suggested interspecies shit going on, but so did Roger Rabbit. Seriously, the only uncomfortable thing about that movie now is that Jeffrey Jones is in it.
 

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Happyninja42 said:
Another one I genuinely enjoyed was Van Helsing. I'm sorry but this was just a fun, funny romp for me. The villain was deliciously over the top, and chewed up every scene he was in. Van Helsing's sidekick was competent and actually useful, and he got laid where I hero didn't.
Loved that one as well. Brings all the bad ass Victorian era monsters together, and as an Australian, we have federal laws in place that require us to love all Hugh Jackman films.

I'll put it out there that the James Bond films that didn't have Sean Connery in them still were a lot of fun. I still like George Lazenby and TIMOTHY DALTON as 007, even if many thought they didn't have the same pizzazz. Not forgetting Brosnan or Moore either.

Craig didn't do it for me though. Not his fault the script was as much fun as a garbage bag full of damp used tissues. Still. I'm sure someone will give it it's due. (I'll admit, as an action movie it is fine, probably better than many other action flicks, but c'mon! It's $%$#ing JAMES BOND! You're supposed to have fast cars, fast women and ridiculous plots!)
 

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Battleship.

And only because it features the Mighty Mo.

USS Missouri, one of the last battleships ever to sail the seas.

And we get to see it fire a full broadside of 9, 16" main battery guns.
 

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Hawki said:
Spider-Man 3. An "okay" movie for me that's weaker than the first two, but yes, I still like the movie.
Of everything you wrote, this one I'd agree upon. I have it on Bluray. The only thing that puts it into the "bad" category for me is that Peter Parker goes from being a dork in the first 2 movies, to being a putz at the beginning of this one, nearly losing Mary Jane. Other than that, it's a lot of fun.

Johnny Novgorod said:
Also by William Friedkin: "Sorcerer". Unfairly maligned movie that went over budget, was poorly marketed as another esoteric flick by the director of The Exorcist (it's not) and had the bad luck of being released on the same week as Star Wars. It's actually a great movie.
Thanks, I'll put that on my must see list. I had not recalled it came out the same week as Star Wars. No wonder no one saw it!

Wary Wolf said:
I'll put it out there that the James Bond films that didn't have Sean Connery in them still were a lot of fun. I still like George Lazenby and TIMOTHY DALTON as 007
George did fine in the roll, was well liked and would have gone on to make more but he was worried about being type cast, so he left for greener pastures. Like when Shelly Long left "Cheers". Saturday Night Live did a skit called, "what was I thinking" with a dopple ganger for her.

I loved Tim as 007 but the movies felt mean spirited and dull (though, before CGI had some stunts that were so good people probably couldn't process how great they were... like a flaming car driving off a cliff as a plane drives underneath its arc). I'm a big 007 fan but remember almost nothing about them.

Which brings me to another vilified movie I love: Die Another Day. It is silly, but is an homage to Bond, including many site gags and references to earlier films. It is my favorite Brosnan 007 by far.

MrFalconfly said:
Battleship.

And only because it features the Mighty Mo.

USS Missouri, one of the last battleships ever to sail the seas.

And we get to see it fire a full broadside of 9, 16" main battery guns.
I literally laughed out loud when I saw the enemy weapons shot Battleship board game pegs. This is more like, so bad it's good!
 

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Super Mario Bros.

https://youtu.be/KsGkMSY_Fag

Only philistines couldn't appreciate such a sublime masterpiece.

Philistines I say! Philistines!
 

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Wary Wolf said:
Spider RedNight said:
I rather enjoyed M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village" though people often think it was terrible. I liked it; the cinematography was generally good, it's the only movie I can stand seeing Adrien Brody in, the music was phenomenal and I just liked the feel of it. Also Joaquin Phoenix.
Agreed, when I first watched it I already had it spoiled for me, but still really enjoyed it. Especially the forest scene near the end where the 'monster' finds the heroine...

Have to agree with 'Good Bad Flicks' on Event Horizon. Gore a little much, but was just right in atmosphere. I even reckon 'Interstellar' quoted it when they tried to explain wormhole/space folding physics. Yeah, I called it Interstellar. Actually I didn't overly mind Interstellar either though. Probably because I watched it with friends.
Well, there's at least one other fan of The Village out there. I thought the characters, story, and cinematography were quite beautiful. The director didn't go down hill until Lady in the Water, for me.

As for Interstellar, I think that wormhole explanation has been around for a while. I saw the exact same explanation used in A Wrinkle in Time, which I believe was released in the 50s. I'm not sure where it originated from.
 

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As for Interstellar, I think that wormhole explanation has been around for a while. I saw the exact same explanation used in A Wrinkle in Time, which I believe was released in the 50s. I'm not sure where it originated from.
Ah, cool. Thanks for clarifying that further. Shame on both of them then. Still, gives me another movie to look for.

Proto Taco said:
Super Mario Bros.
With the technology at the time, the adaptation was the best they could do whilst sticking to the source material. I think it was in many ways a courageous to depict the game in a live-action movie.

Whilst I pride myself on being a philistine, SMB is a guilty pleasure.

Otherwise I remember really loving North as a kid. But then, I probably didn't get a lot of the references at that time that turned a lot of people off it. To me it was a reasonable fable about the 'grass is greener on the other side'.

Think it's a bit unfair that Bruce Willis won the 'Worst Actor' award for it though. I thought he was fun, and had fun in a different role. I can still remember his quote: "It's so hot that your balls will stick like crazy glue." or something like that.
 

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The vilified movies I like have been probably the most popular to hate, though I think they had a... certain charm. The Transformers movies were the height of summer blockbusters for me until Pacific Rim and The Avengers came out. I LOVED seeing all the robots realistically Cg'ed fighting and interacting on the screen... what little screen time they had anyway. Hell, I think out of the whole franchise Transformers 2 was my most memorable watch in part due to the "infamous" debut of the twins, a.k.a Skids and Mudflap. They were the best part of the movie and my favorite tfs', next to Jazz, Starscream, and Bumblebee, I thought they were pretty funny, made chuckle more than I care to admit, and while I can understand how people say they were annoying (nothing compared Jar Jar Binks Imo) I never saw how they racist caricatures of black people, I mostly thought they were a parody of white people trying to act they had a hood mentality, being "wangstas". Anyway, I was dissapointed they weren't in the following sequels even if they said they were going to be killed off (good at least, I wouldn't of wanted them to show it.

The two bad things I can say about the franchise is that obviously there was A LOT of wasted potential and character development for the titular characters and the story elements left on the table, especially between movies (almost nothing ever seemed connected), and the over focus of human characters and the abysmal, shameless, over-saturated reliance on the American military to defeat the Decepticons all throughout the movies. BUT seeing Optimus wrecking the shit out of the Decepticons in the last ten minutes of the movie (as little compensation as it is) was also pretty great too.

The Star Wars prequels, with obvious exception of the the Phantom Menace, also weren't that bad to me. I've never been a star wars fanboy and the expanded universe outside of the games is all just elusive mist to me. After watching the "sequel" movies I honestly can't tell how they are supposedly superior to the prequels. And again, I don't see the racism in Jar Jar Binks or Gungans or whatever the fuck that was about. Annoying? yes. pointless? yes. Should've been left on the side of a desert sandstorm? Most assuredly. But not something that "killed the star wars franchise". It should've peacefully died out long ago if you ask me... which you didn't so *ahem* excuse me.
 

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Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It's admittedly been a while since I've seen it, but I thought it was quite good when I first watched it. Most criticism of it I've seen seems to fall into three broad categories:

1. It has silly scenes in it, with the nuke being the most commonly brought up. This is true, of course, but the original trilogy had their own share of ridiculous action, and the fourth had some very good, memorable part as well: the scene with the ants, the chase in Hanger 51, the alien take-off at the end, etc. People seem to focus too much on the implausible in this, overlook similarly unlikely things in the originals, and then ignore the good parts.

2. Too much CGI. Once again, this is true, and there are times when it is nigh-unforgivable, such as the jungle chase with the monkeys. But at the same time, a majority of the movie is still practical effects in actual locations - it is nowhere even approaching Star Wars I-III levels, or even a lot of other films coming out around that time. An irritating part, yes, but an overstated one.

3. It has aliens. This one I really don't understand: when I ask people about why Crystal Skull is bad, an extremely common response is just to say "it has aliens in it," and it just baffles me that this is such a huge sticking point. Yes, it is different from the originals, when Indy was hunting for religious relics, but it is also a movie meant to emulate the pulp fiction of the eras they are set in. The originals were set in the pre-WWII time of treasure hunting, tombs in the ancient parts of the world, and stories like The Maltese Falcon or King Solomon's Mines. The 1950's were the time of science fiction, UFOs, distant aliens and Cold War paranoia: the difference in time period made the inclusion of sci-fi entirely appropriate. Just because it is different doesn't mean it is bad.

Anyways, that's my account of it. It's hardly perfect, but I still enjoyed it and don't really understand the hate it gets.