I never thought about it, but that's really the only way to explain Necron weapons: Guns that fire nuclear lightning. It's so genius.Exocet said:Necrons of course.
Necromantic robots with guns that fire nuclear lighting.
Honestly,I think there is nothing quite as awesome as that.
Yes, they run concentration camps, but it isn't their default strategy. You'll notice they're the only major power that have allies outside their own race, because they're willing to accept diplomatic solutions. By today's standards their methods of dealing with their enemies would no doubt be frowned upon, but let's keep in mind the fact that I'm sure a bunch of Imperial civilians would much rather be put in a Tau labor camp than be peeled apart by Necron gauss flayers, experimented on by Dark Eldar, or have hideous monsters explode out of them after being corrupted by Chaos. Or being summarily executed by their own government for coming in contact with non-humans at all. In the 40k universe the Tau are comparatively quite nice and agreeable people. They allow surrender, something which is out of the question for any other faction, who would much rather hunt their enemies down to the last man and kill them all than accept their surrender and ally with them. No, Tau society is hardly a model of civility and kindness, but find another faction in the 40k galaxy with a less oppressive/fanatical/depraved regime. Good luck with that.Rajin Cajun said:I don't get why so many people say this about the Tau. They run concentration camps for Christ's sake they are not that good unless you consider genocide committed because people don't like your political ideals good. The Tau are just masters of Propaganda and are a race in slavery to the Ethereals who can control them with their minds.Yokai said:I'm a Tau fan. Their technology and culture are pretty awesome, and their allies (i.e. the Kroot) kick ass. Plus they're the only major faction who believes that it's possible to solve problems in ways other than face-stomping everything that isn't them. The galaxy needs more people (aliens) who aren't douchebags all the time. And yet they're still willing to vaporize their enemies with a barrage of long-range plasma fire if negotiations don't work out. They seem to have a pretty good idea of how the galaxy works.
However, in terms of sheer overwhelming badassery, I don't think anyone can top the Space Marines.
That's rather poetic. And I have to agree. The Tyranids are one of the more disturbing factions in the 40k universe, and I find it extremely hard to sympathize with them in the slightest. The only good Tyranid is a Tyranid with all of its molecules scattered too far apart for the swarm to reabsorb.Eclectic Dreck said:I can understand the love for chaos. I can understand the respect for the Eldar's epic last stand. I even, to an extent get why people like Orks, being so built for war that their technology literally only works because of the belief it ought to work. But I cannot understand why anybody would actually LIKE the Tyranids.
This isn't about the perspective of game mechanics or what have you - all the armies are routes to the same end and common game mechanics ensure that Tyranids don't really get to have the overwhelming strength in numbers they should presumably have, it's about the race itself.
There is nothing about the Tyranids to latch on to. There is no inherent humanity present, there is no single minded love of warfare, there is no religious crusade or even a desperate battle against inevitibility. All you have is a singular conciousness of unfathomable intelligence that is seemingly bent on a single goal: reproduction. The Tyranids are not in a fight for survival or ideals, they simply exist to propogate their species, and they are frighteningly effecient at it. You have an enemy that literally cannot be stopped - once a planet has been attacked by the swarm heroics and firepower will at best serve to delay the inevitable. One way or another, when the tyranids attack the only thing left on the planet will be ash or tyranids. It is literally an insurmountable force, whose motivations are so utterly alien that they defy all attempts to categorize.
In terms of their actual tactics, I cannot imagine a more loathsome enemy. When facing the legions of the Guard, no matter how great their strength in numbers or their weight in firepower, all you have at the end of the day is a group of men with flack jackets rifles and bayonetts. One knows the limits of human endurance, one knows the limits of human engineering, and where there is at least a modicum of knowledge there is a route to victory. Tyranids on the other hand represent a complete unknown, a force that literally evolvs the biological weaponry best suited to fight a given foe in a given place. All you can know for certain is that a single tyranid, little more than a horrid amalgamation nighmare fuel and fangs is mortal and can be killed. But the true fear lies in the fact that killing a single tyranid or hundreds or even millions is irrelevent. Unless the corpse is utterly annihilated it will simply be reabsorbed into the swarm, and it's compatriots will fight on just as fiercely. Standing against a tyranid invasion is to stand against the very horrors of the subconcious. No matter what company a soldier keeps, no matter what race bore him into the universe, to fight against the swarm pits a soldier against his worst fears, and such battles are always fought alone.
Tyranids are, quite simply, the literal incarnation of the worst monsters of the imagination. The boogeyman in the clost is a Lictor waiting to pounce, that unknown noise in the distance at night signles the coming of a carnifex. How anyone can sympathize with what amounts to fear itself is quite beyond me.
Lets just get it straight Tau were created to appeal to Idealistic Anime Fans thats it. No one else who plays 40k likes them because of that it was like how Sisters of Battle were originally female Space Marines till everyone bitched about how much of a Lore cop out it was. I don't personally have a problem with the Tau but to say the Tau are free when the majority of the Tau race are literally slaves to the Ethereals is naive. At least the other races have their own initiative whereas the Tau which is to be a play on communism are nothing more then cogs in the great big machine of the Greater Good. Hell at least Chaos rewards initiative unlike the Tau who kill those who show it.Yokai said:Yes, they run concentration camps, but it isn't their default strategy. You'll notice they're the only major power that have allies outside their own race, because they're willing to accept diplomatic solutions. By today's standards their methods of dealing with their enemies would no doubt be frowned upon, but let's keep in mind the fact that I'm sure a bunch of Imperial civilians would much rather be put in a Tau labor camp than be peeled apart by Necron gauss flayers, experimented on by Dark Eldar, or have hideous monsters explode out of them after being corrupted by Chaos. Or being summarily executed by their own government for coming in contact with non-humans at all. In the 40k universe the Tau are comparatively quite nice and agreeable people. They allow surrender, something which is out of the question for any other faction, who would much rather hunt their enemies down to the last man and kill them all than accept their surrender and ally with them. No, Tau society is hardly a model of civility and kindness, but find another faction in the 40k galaxy with a less oppressive/fanatical/depraved regime. Good luck with that.Rajin Cajun said:I don't get why so many people say this about the Tau. They run concentration camps for Christ's sake they are not that good unless you consider genocide committed because people don't like your political ideals good. The Tau are just masters of Propaganda and are a race in slavery to the Ethereals who can control them with their minds.Yokai said:I'm a Tau fan. Their technology and culture are pretty awesome, and their allies (i.e. the Kroot) kick ass. Plus they're the only major faction who believes that it's possible to solve problems in ways other than face-stomping everything that isn't them. The galaxy needs more people (aliens) who aren't douchebags all the time. And yet they're still willing to vaporize their enemies with a barrage of long-range plasma fire if negotiations don't work out. They seem to have a pretty good idea of how the galaxy works.
However, in terms of sheer overwhelming badassery, I don't think anyone can top the Space Marines.
Sisters models painted in slaneeshi colours, using the noisemarine stats? What do you use for blastmasters and sonic blasters?Acaroid said:My own race, sisters of choas! Yes i made a chaos version of the sisters of battle!!
well the stats I did a hybrid thing, I kinda tired to make them as close to sister of battle but choas, so the stats are more like the sister of battle.Jaythulhu said:Sisters models painted in slaneeshi colours, using the noisemarine stats? What do you use for blastmasters and sonic blasters?Acaroid said:My own race, sisters of choas! Yes i made a chaos version of the sisters of battle!!