Your ideal non-monarchic gov't

[Psycho Cat Industries]

Let me start this out simple.
You can create a government and it runs in the way that you wish,but the moment that you finish creating it,you have to let go which means it cannot involve you as king,president,etc.

My ideal for a government would be a leaderless ruling.
If government is meant to support the people then why not just remove the middle man and make the government the people.No leaders,no tricks,no problem.If it is to be wished by the people,it shall be done and since no leader exists,no parties can exist.Think of Anonymous or the Tea Party.Both have no leader and so often are targeted without success by traditional politics.That means that you do not get monopolized government or controversy of leader's action which is common is all societies to some degree.The only real draw back of such a place is that it would be ideally sectionalized and really,that isn't too far off from states or provinces anyway.

So,what is your government?

Edit:Well I feel stupid,not even 2 hours in and someone has thrown a wrench in my machine.Makes sense though considering the world situation so thanks for pointing out.

 

[FalloutJack]

Why, the V For Vendetta one, of course!

*Waits for the penny to drop*

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

How did that go?I fell asleep after the one girl found the letter about some gay couple.

 

[Eldarion]

My ideal for a government would be a leaderless ruling.
If government is meant to support the people then why not just remove the middle man and make the government the people.No leaders,no tricks,no problem.If it is to be wished by the people,it shall be done and since no leader exists,no parties can exist.Think of Anonymous or the Tea Party.Both have no leader and so often are targeted without success by traditional politics.That means that you do not get monopolized government or controversy of leader's action which is common is all societies to some degree.The only real draw back of such a place is that it would be ideally sectionalized and really,that isn't too far off from states or provinces anyway.

I hate to nit pick, but that kind of government just leads to the majority oppressing the minority.

 

[TeeBs]

The Tea Party does have leaders, even if they aren't official. We don't know how the fuck Anonymous runs.

With out a central government the Corporations will take over. The entire west coast will become Disneyland and thats not supposed to make it sound fun and exciting. Anarchy can't work and if tried will result in Chaos, who will pay cops? Who will build streets? I don't think you thought this out very well.

You know what I think, the government should be chosen by those who have proven they are smart. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.

 

[SilentCom]

It would be very difficult if not impossible to eliminate leadership. Real leaders aren't those who control but rather contribute the most. Real leaders are role models for the rest to follow. With this in mind, people will actively seek out leaders to help guide them as a unified people. The problem is when people start to think of themselves as entitled to lead/rule over others. If I were to establish a type of government it would be a democratically elected Republic.
How I view it, there aren't really any bad governments, only bad people leading them. Best example is communism. Communism looks good on paper- equality and shared resources, etc- unfortunately it does not work because the leadership is poor and people oppressed.

 

[viranimus]

Self government. The problem with what types of governments we have seen is that they look good on paper but end up being ruined when put into the hands of people who just corrupt the rules for their own desires.

Problem with a system of self government is that human nature prevents this and until that nature changes the system of self government will be just as flawed as any other system of government.

What might be interesting experiment would be a rotational civil service government. Basically use the US model of goverment's structure, but all the positions of authority are rotated once every six months and all citizens signed up for civil service can be called at any time to fill one of those positions. Would be interesting way to eliminate certain elements of governmental corruption.

However it likely would not work due to there being a constant stream of unqualified people in those positions that have no idea what they are doing. Although I dont see much difference between that and the current system.

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

My ideal for a government would be a leaderless ruling.
If government is meant to support the people then why not just remove the middle man and make the government the people.No leaders,no tricks,no problem.If it is to be wished by the people,it shall be done and since no leader exists,no parties can exist.Think of Anonymous or the Tea Party.Both have no leader and so often are targeted without success by traditional politics.That means that you do not get monopolized government or controversy of leader's action which is common is all societies to some degree.The only real draw back of such a place is that it would be ideally sectionalized and really,that isn't too far off from states or provinces anyway.

I hate to nit pick, but that kind of government just leads to the majority oppressing the minority.

Yeah,but I am not an angel and about 4 seconds thought to the government is all I really put into it.Though I don't like the premise of what I am about to say,at least there wouldn't be a minority to fight over if they get assimilated.

 

[Numb1lp]

Why, the V For Vendetta one, of course!

*Waits for the penny to drop*

Because ideas are bulletproof...

 

[Eldarion]

t. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.

Al Gore won a Nobel prize for telling America shit about the climate that most people already knew. Collage graduation as a requirement for voting is absurd, Bill Gates is a computer wiz and he dropped out of school. A high IQ doesn't stop a person from thinking stupid things.

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

It would be very difficult if not impossible to eliminate leadership. Real leaders aren't those who control but rather contribute the most. Real leaders are role models for the rest to follow. With this in mind, people will actively seek out leaders to help guide them as a unified people. The problem is when people start to think of themselves as entitled to lead/rule over others. If I were to establish a type of government it would be a democratically elected Republic.
How I view it, there aren't really any bad governments, only bad people leading them. Best example is communism. Communism looks good on paper- equality and shared resources, etc- unfortunately it does not work because the leadership is poor and people oppressed.

True,true.It does pain me when I think about it and I have a lot.Maybe it is because of me being ausberg'd but so many things seem easier without people.

 

[TeeBs]

t. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.

Al Gore won a Nobel prize for telling America shit about the climate that most people already knew. Collage graduation as a requirement for voting is absurd, Bill Gates is a computer wiz and he dropped out of school. A high IQ doesn't stop a person from thinking stupid things.

Al Gore took action and although people already knew this, there was inadequate action being made from our government. Bill Gates actively supports education and understands its importance, and looking at where Bill Gates is now quitting school wasn't a bad thing for him, and although having a high IQ doesn't bar you from doing stupid things, its hard to say a panel of over 3 million people *Considering 120 is about the top 10% of america* wouldn't be a safety net.

 

[FalloutJack]

Why, the V For Vendetta one, of course!

*Waits for the penny to drop*

Because ideas are bulletproof...

Not the penny I was looking for, but always a valid point.

 

[Paksenarrion]

Major groups/factions/organizations will be isolated and separated geographically. The more extreme your views are, the farther you are away from the Capitol.

Interdependent nation-states that all share the same currency.

There is a voluntary armed force, but bankrupt citizens and unwanted orphans are sent to the Capitol for education and training as an all-purpose worker corps. Once a month, they are given military training and education, based on their work history and psychological profiles.

 

[DefunctTheory]

There's only one perfect government.

 

[godfist88]

My ideal for a government would be a leaderless ruling.
If government is meant to support the people then why not just remove the middle man and make the government the people.No leaders,no tricks,no problem.If it is to be wished by the people,it shall be done and since no leader exists,no parties can exist.Think of Anonymous or the Tea Party.Both have no leader and so often are targeted without success by traditional politics.That means that you do not get monopolized government or controversy of leader's action which is common is all societies to some degree.The only real draw back of such a place is that it would be ideally sectionalized and really,that isn't too far off from states or provinces anyway.

I hate to nit pick, but that kind of government just leads to the majority oppressing the minority.

he's right, just because there's no leaders or parties doesn't mean that human greed will simply vanish.

 

[Blank Verse]

Today's Germany.

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

t. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.

Al Gore won a Nobel prize for telling America shit about the climate that most people already knew. Collage graduation as a requirement for voting is absurd, Bill Gates is a computer wiz and he dropped out of school. A high IQ doesn't stop a person from thinking stupid things.

Al Gore took action and although people already knew this, there was inadequate action being made from our government. Bill Gates actively supports education and understands its importance, and looking at where Bill Gates is now quitting school wasn't a bad thing for him, and although having a high IQ doesn't bar you from doing stupid things, its hard to say a panel of over 3 million people *Considering 120 is about the top 10% of america* wouldn't be a safety net.

Eh,the people be manipulatable and so long as the fear of "global warming" exists in 32 degree weather,people can be manipulated

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

Today's Germany.

I would swipe the game rating system though.

 

[TeeBs]

t. All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.

Al Gore won a Nobel prize for telling America shit about the climate that most people already knew. Collage graduation as a requirement for voting is absurd, Bill Gates is a computer wiz and he dropped out of school. A high IQ doesn't stop a person from thinking stupid things.

Al Gore took action and although people already knew this, there was inadequate action being made from our government. Bill Gates actively supports education and understands its importance, and looking at where Bill Gates is now quitting school wasn't a bad thing for him, and although having a high IQ doesn't bar you from doing stupid things, its hard to say a panel of over 3 million people *Considering 120 is about the top 10% of america* wouldn't be a safety net.

Eh,the people be manipulatable and so long as the fear of "global warming" exists in 32 degree weather,people can be manipulated

What?