Your ideal non-monarchic gov't

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Solon_Mega

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ThatDaveDude1 said:
Leadership by Council to be implemented separately in interconnected communities with relatively small populations.
That may only result in diferent small comunities with diferent views of their needs. You know what happens when such communities have both close borders and conflicting views of their need? WAR happens.

A form of government is irrelevant in comparison to Human evolution.

An absolute monarchy where an evolved conscious leader rules over evolved conscious people is better than a democracy where powerful corporations manipulate the perception of the majority and therefore controls the power.

Therefore it's all irrelevant.
The cake IS A LIE.
 

Solon_Mega

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THEJORRRG said:
Marxist Anarchy. I would like to stress that ANARCHY=/=CHAOS.
if (people have almighty self conscience, and know how to work for a better society) {

marxistAnarchy = "Not Chaos"

}else{

marxistAnarchy = "Bullshit"
}

// The cake is still a lie

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Here's my idea:

We have a perfect AI (Unhackable for obvious reasons) that keeps track of the needs of the people, and that EVERYONE can get information from (so everyone can see how things are going in the country).

We also have a government that changes every 2 years (without fail), that puts the AI suggestions into practice (The AI has no physical power, so it can't take over if it would somehow become aware). The governors CAN veto the AI's suggestions, but they'd also need to justify it to the people.

The governors are also made totally transparent. All spending habits/etc are publicly viewable. Anyone found to be doing corrupt business is immediately expelled.


This would be great since we'd have an objective being that keeps track of what needs doing, but we also still have humans to decide what happens, AND these humans are accountable, so if they do stupid stuff, they will pay for it, and will thus be less inclined to be corrupt bastards.

My only worry would be that the mafia or something would manage to hack the AI, and thus be able to abuse the whole damn system, rendering it useless.
 

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A dictatorship/empire with me as dictator/emperor.

The more people get to take part in decisions, the less gets done.
 

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The ideal government should reflect the people's wishes. For example, I don't think democracy suits Russia, I think a strong leader who cares about the country is more important than representation. Yes, Lenin and Stalin commited attrocities, but Russia is remembered because of them. Today, the country is still unofficially a communist country because of their legacy. No, Lenin and Stalin weren't the best leaders, but they set an example to be improved upon.

Some countries could benefit from monarchies, others could benefit from democracy, others from communism, etc. I think Germany is a country that might benefit from communism, since the Germans are very hard-working people and care about their country's needs above their own, in general, although there are many flaws with communism that could undermine long/short term goals.

Monarchies and dictatorships aren't inherently bad. They're bad if the leaders are selfish. They do, however, remove a lot of the red tape that prevents many policies from working. Democracy and communism allow the people to come together to contribute as a whole. Democracy doesn't work nowadays though, because every citizen has to contribute and be aware of the problems in his/her country, which they're not; they just vote for the most popular canditate and wait for the next election in a few years time. They don't campaign against wrongdoings unless they become popular and thus are highly sensitive to manipulation. If the only people who contribute are the ones with a certain degree of power, then how is that democracy?

Anyway, I'm not the biggest expert on the subject, but I do think, based on everything I've watched and read, that every country has a different mentality.

Churchill I believe said that democracy is the best of the bad systems and he has a point, but I expand on that and say that every system can be potentially bad and should be tailored to each country's needs and overall mentality.

Russia and China are huge, so could they really function as democracies without splitting themselves up into various countries/states?

Again, not an expert, so take what is said with a grain of salt.
 

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Rex Dark said:
A dictatorship/empire with me as dictator/emperor.

The more people get to take part in decisions, the less gets done.
I noticed you didn't read the thread title, or the OP at all. Might want to know anything at all about a thread before you post in it blindly. Just a suggestion, of course!

This is the thread title:
Your ideal non-monarchic gov't
This is the first thing in the OP:
You can create a government and it runs in the way that you wish,but the moment that you finish creating it,you have to let go which means it cannot involve you as king,president,etc.
(emphasis mine)

Reading comprehension is a good thing!


On topic: in the US, our current system isn't so bad. Sure, it has its flaws, it's running rampant with corruption, and things definitely have room for improvement, but really, at its core, it's a good system. We just need to clean it up.
 

Solon_Mega

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Astalano said:
Some countries could benefit from monarchies, others could benefit from democracy, others from communism, etc. I think Germany is a country that might benefit from communism, since the Germans are very hard-working people and care about their country's needs above their own, in general, although there are many flaws with communism that could undermine long/short term goals.

Anyway, I'm not the biggest expert on the subject, but I do think, based on everything I've watched and read, that every country has a different mentality.

Churchill I believe said that democracy is the best of the bad systems and he has a point, but I expand on that and say that every system can be potentially bad and should be tailored to each country's needs and overall mentality.
I guess i could agree with you on something. Each government type has it vantages and we could stop seeing countries as "more of the same". Each one does have diferent needs.

In that case my country needs to be ruled by someone who stand up and says: "Stop showing of your boobies young lady! That is not nice!". Really, its begining to get embarasing.
 

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Scout Tactical said:
Rex Dark said:
A dictatorship/empire with me as dictator/emperor.

The more people get to take part in decisions, the less gets done.
I noticed you didn't read the thread title, or the OP at all. Might want to know anything at all about a thread before you post in it blindly. Just a suggestion, of course!

This is the thread title:
Your ideal non-monarchic gov't
This is the first thing in the OP:
You can create a government and it runs in the way that you wish,but the moment that you finish creating it,you have to let go which means it cannot involve you as king,president,etc.
(emphasis mine)

Reading comprehension is a good thing!


On topic: in the US, our current system isn't so bad. Sure, it has its flaws, it's running rampant with corruption, and things definitely have room for improvement, but really, at its core, it's a good system. We just need to clean it up.
Monarchic means you have a king.
Monarchy is hereditary.
Imperial and Dictatorial governments are not monarchic.
 

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Scout Tactical said:
On topic: in the US, our current system isn't so bad. Sure, it has its flaws, it's running rampant with corruption, and things definitely have room for improvement, but really, at its core, it's a good system.
Dude, its a two party system. That means there's a gigantic lack of choice.
 

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My government is ripped off from something my roommate was telling me about, but basically is have a system where people vote for they reps and shit (these people are just a puppet government to make the people feel like they have some kind of a say), but give supreme executive power to someone that doesn't know they have it. (i.e. bring them into a room and say "if you were prez, what would you do about this?") obviously, make sure this person isn't crazy and if they say something retarded like "kill all the jews" get them out of there. Gonna have to replace this person alot and have a really good system in place to be the question asker guys; if they got corrupted, that would be bad.
 

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The best system of government ever:

"There are no leaders among the Norn. Only Heroes."
"The Norn have no need of armies. We are Norn."

I'll just leave this here [http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Norn].

Then again, Humans would probably screw this up...
 

Scout Tactical

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Ekonk said:
Dude, its a two party system. That means there's a gigantic lack of choice.
Are you... implying that's a bad thing...?

I certainly don't want a government that could potentially do anything at any time. That's essentially anarchy.
 

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TeeBs said:
All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.
Uhh... you do realize that the nobel prize is frequently given out for 100% political reasons completely unrelated to any sort of merit or accomplishment, right?

And yale/harvard? Way to tell the middle and lower-class to fuck off...
 

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Vuljatar said:
TeeBs said:
All U.S. presidents should be decided by Nobel Prize Winners, People who have graduated from Yale and Harvard, and people who have a IQ exceeding 120, and if the someone has a problem with it because the damn liberals are taking over then they should pick up a damn book.
Uhh... you do realize that the nobel prize is frequently given out for 100% political reasons completely unrelated to any sort of merit or accomplishment, right?

And yale/harvard? Way to tell the middle and lower-class to fuck off...
Relax, those were only examples, I went on to say later in the thread I only meant there needs to be some sort of processing system.