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Pacific Rim. It's happened everywhere in pop culture but I'm discussing this elsewhere so it counts. If the robots have huge guns that kill the monsters in a few blasts... why the hell do they even need the robots? Just make big guns!
Goddamnit robots are irritating.
Or in the film version of the Hobbit part 2. Hey Martin F, you know you've got a ring that makes you invisible, right?
There is one problem with "just make the big gun" strategy: How are you going to get the big gun to the monster? That is what the giant robot is for. And you will also notice that the plasma guns were only ever used within a range of a few steps and most often at point blank range. It is most likely true that they can only be used at such minimal range. They also take a few seconds to charge up. So if you had just the gun, say on a giant tank, your strategy would be to drive right up to the kaiju and hope it doesn't step on you or dodge it by, say, walking slightly to the left before your gun can fire. In addition, it is likely that the massive nuclear reactor Gypsy was equipped with was necessary to power the guns. Also, we saw that the weapon does not all ways kill in a few hits - in fact, the first kaiju in the movie takes several hits and is still able to fight - the shots probably need to hit a vital spot in order to kill the beast.

So, basically, you need a weapons platform that fulfills all of the following criteria:

1. It is large enough to carry the weapon and it's power source
2. It can safely close and engage the Kaiju within the melee range of the Kaiju.
3. It can successfully defend itself until it can use its killer weapon in a way that will deal the death blow.

What would you suggest if not a giant robot?
Thomas Barnsley said:
I would also say Pacific Rim, but for a different reason.

That damned sword...
Not using the sword is really simple, I don't see why people have a problem with this.

First, consider how the Jaegers fight the Kaiju. They all have a specific strategy of how to engage and kill the monster. Both Striker and Gypsy have the same strategy:
1. Close to melee range.
2. Combat the beast until it is stunned and you have a few seconds opening
3. Use a powerful but unwieldy weapon to deal the final blow.

So, considering this strategy, why not use the sword for step 2? Well, based on how the sword is attacked to the robot it would interfere with deploying the plasma gun. It would take at least several seconds to retract the sword (if that is even possible in combat) and then another several seconds to deploy and power the plasma guns. Gypsy Danger would almost certainly miss their window of opportunity if they tried to do that.

Basically, the sword is a shitty backup weapon only to be used when the plasma gun is not an option. And you will notice the sword is only ever used when the plasma gun is not an option.
 

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Madoka Magica: All of it, when you learn what Homaru's power is, you wonder how she ever failed to complete her goal. It is kinda ridiculous. She should be able to do it one hundred times over before anyone can figure out WTF is going on.
I think they explained it pretty well - I mean think about it, you're from the future and you go to the past to try to explain anything and it'll sound either implausible or outright crazy - for example, think about going back to post World War 1 Great Britain or France and tell them about Hitler and how Germany will both invade France and bomb the UK, at that point, when Germany was still under the effects of a depression and you'll be laughed at.
 

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DrOswald said:
Thomas Barnsley said:
I would also say Pacific Rim, but for a different reason.

That damned sword...
Not using the sword is really simple, I don't see why people have a problem with this.

First, consider how the Jaegers fight the Kaiju. They all have a specific strategy of how to engage and kill the monster. Both Striker and Gypsy have the same strategy:
1. Close to melee range.
2. Combat the beast until it is stunned and you have a few seconds opening
3. Use a powerful but unwieldy weapon to deal the final blow.

So, considering this strategy, why not use the sword for step 2? Well, based on how the sword is attacked to the robot it would interfere with deploying the plasma gun. It would take at least several seconds to retract the sword (if that is even possible in combat) and then another several seconds to deploy and power the plasma guns. Gypsy Danger would almost certainly miss their window of opportunity if they tried to do that.

Basically, the sword is a shitty backup weapon only to be used when the plasma gun is not an option. And you will notice the sword is only ever used when the plasma gun is not an option.
Well that is certainly the best explanation I have seen as of yet. It almost fully explains it.
My only problem with it is that I still think there would have been a perfectly good opportunity to finish the fight using the sword at some point before being carried into the upper atmosphere. Maybe they could have hit Otachi in the face with their sword instead of a boat? It would have made for a very dull end to the fight, but still. I mean, they could have at least used it a little earlier in their flight.
My complaints could probably be explained with simple human error; forgetfulness, vanity, late reactions, etc.
Like I said, you provide a good explanation. Might try it on my friends.
 

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Oh man I got a goo- why is everyone arguing about Pacific Rim? Ah screw it moving on....

Iron Man 3. I liked it, but if theres on thing that just irritates me is this...



Could have really came in handy when an army of flying Iron Men came in and started wrecking your lavamen's asses Killian. THIS IS WHY MANDARIN FANS HATE YOU.
 

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Oh man I got a goo- why is everyone arguing about Pacific Rim? Ah screw it moving on....

Iron Man 3. I liked it, but if theres on thing that just irritates me is this...



Could have really came in handy when an army of flying Iron Men came in and started wrecking your lavamen's asses Killian. THIS IS WHY MANDARIN FANS HATE YOU.
Cinema Sins does occasionally make compelling points in the humor. I actually forgot that happened, not the fire breathing specifically, but that he never used it in the final fight. I must have been too caught up in the action to notice, but he never did use it did he? Yeah that really would have helped, huh?
 

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Dio Brando.

Anyone here who has read Jojo's Bizarre Adventure parts 1 and 3 know exactly what the fuck i'm talking about. The writer himself was asked about why Dio didn't use certain powers of his in part 3 and he simply replied that he (the author) forgot about them.
 

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Ix Rebound said:
Many cutscene in Mass Effect that has any kind of combat in it, where Shepard forgets about his biotic powers that he has had (presumbably) his entire life.

2 and 3 were the biggest offenders, The amount of times were he could have solved the immediate problem by telekinetically ***** slapping someone's face off goes into the double digits
A lot of player avatar/customisable games are like this, because they would then have to start writing scenarios with all the powers/spells/whatever in mind.

It's irritating in almost every case.
 

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Thomas Barnsley said:
DrOswald said:
Thomas Barnsley said:
I would also say Pacific Rim, but for a different reason.

That damned sword...
Not using the sword is really simple, I don't see why people have a problem with this.

First, consider how the Jaegers fight the Kaiju. They all have a specific strategy of how to engage and kill the monster. Both Striker and Gypsy have the same strategy:
1. Close to melee range.
2. Combat the beast until it is stunned and you have a few seconds opening
3. Use a powerful but unwieldy weapon to deal the final blow.

So, considering this strategy, why not use the sword for step 2? Well, based on how the sword is attacked to the robot it would interfere with deploying the plasma gun. It would take at least several seconds to retract the sword (if that is even possible in combat) and then another several seconds to deploy and power the plasma guns. Gypsy Danger would almost certainly miss their window of opportunity if they tried to do that.

Basically, the sword is a shitty backup weapon only to be used when the plasma gun is not an option. And you will notice the sword is only ever used when the plasma gun is not an option.
Well that is certainly the best explanation I have seen as of yet. It almost fully explains it.
My only problem with it is that I still think there would have been a perfectly good opportunity to finish the fight using the sword at some point before being carried into the upper atmosphere. Maybe they could have hit Otachi in the face with their sword instead of a boat? It would have made for a very dull end to the fight, but still. I mean, they could have at least used it a little earlier in their flight.
My complaints could probably be explained with simple human error; forgetfulness, vanity, late reactions, etc.
Like I said, you provide a good explanation. Might try it on my friends.
Well, consider that later on they literally stab a Kaiju though the skull with one of the swords and that doesn't kill it. Hell, it barely slows it down. The sword just isn't that effective of a weapon. Cutting off Otachi's wing with it seemed to only work because of ideal conditions - the monster was not expecting it and it was against a relatively weak point on the kaiju. It's more effective than just punching but not by so much that it is worth giving up potential use of that arm's cannon. It might be worth it to use only one blade but Raleigh has no experience with the weapon. It was probably decided that since he was leading it would be better to just stick to the old configuration unless it was needed.

Now that I think about it, he never had a chance to pilot Gypsy Danger before that battle. They were probably planning on familiarizing him with the new weapons during the test run but that got cut short when Mako freaked out.

So, taking into account relative effectiveness and the fact that the lead pilot is completely unfamiliar with the weapon, it makes perfect sense that the sword was only used as a last resort.
 

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Korten12 said:
Warachia said:
Well...

Izanami isn't a goddess, she is merely a more powerful shadow. Something more like Nyx from P3.
Despite the fact
That they clearly state her to be a goddess and at no point do they ever call her a shadow?
 

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Warachia said:
Given just how HOT plasma is (if it was a gun, you could not fire it without melting), I'd be shocked if any of those blood cells weren't annihilated.
So that's why, as they're walking away, it shows the area surrounding the remains stained in blue with only the center of the carcass burning?
Yes, considering that the entirety of the inside of the Kaiju's are blue, and its organs were splattered everywhere, it does make sense that the surrounding are is stained in blue.

Also you can kill all of the blood cells in a sample of human blood, and still keep it red.
 

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Thomas Barnsley said:
Warachia said:
Thomas Barnsley said:
Tom_green_day said:
Pacific Rim. It's happened everywhere in pop culture but I'm discussing this elsewhere so it counts. If the robots have huge guns that kill the monsters in a few blasts... why the hell do they even need the robots? Just make big guns!
Goddamnit robots are irritating.
Or in the film version of the Hobbit part 2. Hey Martin F, you know you've got a ring that makes you invisible, right?
I would also say Pacific Rim, but for a different reason.

That damned sword...
You`re right, they should have used that sword in the city against the winged one and poisoned the entire place because the Kaiju`s blood is extremely toxic, and the city would then be uninhabitable for the next couple years (maybe just six months) while they clean it all up, good plan! Maybe they should have used it when fighting the gorilla thing, which would have removed one of their hands, and would have let the gorilla punch them over and over again, if you remember, the reason that the first Kaiju the fight in the movie nearly beat them is because they had only one arm, they were trying to use the plasma cannon with the other which left them open, and in the final part of the movie, using the sword immediately turned out to be a really stupid idea because it left them open.

The sword/cannon isn't something that just instantly kills everything in that movie, you need to use it when your enemy has their guard down, otherwise you get your arm ripped off.
Ok I think someone has already said this to you, but firstly; they actually managed to spread the toxic blood over a larger area by cutting it open while it was high in the atmosphere. Surely that would be worse than confining it to one section of one city?
Secondly, when fighting leatherback, not only did they blow it apart in the middle of a large industrial area, but they actually emptied the entire plasma clip at it with the result that it was blown apart even more. It doesn't seem like they care much about the toxic blood getting everywhere anyway.
Thirdly, and I believe the other guy didn't address this, you say they would have had their arm ripped off if they had used it before they were picked up. I think that isn't true, I'm sure there were moments where it would have contributed well to the fight before they were picked up. And even if it was true, they could have at least used it before they were so high of the ground.
I think a much more likely explanation is that they simply forgot. They did a Derp. And that's ok, because in the end they still won. And I did actually enjoy the movie; I'm not a hater.
You're right, somebody else already said the same thing, and I already replied to them, so I'll say it again, they were burning up when they were descending, I don't see how that wouldn't fry the blood, and Plasma is HOT, really hot, if the movie were going by real-world physics, the Jeagers arm would melt from firing it only a few times, which should have fried everything.
I do agree that they could have used it earlier, before they got so high (maybe they didn't want to flood the city?) but I disagree that it would have been a smart move even if they weren't in the city, especially since not having a left hand is what let knifehead almost win in their first fight.
 

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Thomas Barnsley said:
Warachia said:
Zhukov said:
Warachia said:
You`re right, they should have used that sword in the city against the winged one and poisoned the entire place because the Kaiju`s blood is extremely toxic, and the city would then be uninhabitable for the next couple years (maybe just six months) while they clean it all up, good plan!
That didn't stop them using it directly over the city. What, did the blood all get carried away by the wind currents?

Nor did it stop them blasting apart another one with the plasma cannon thingy. Then putting a couple of extra shots into it for some extra splatter.
No, it all got burned up because somehow the Kaiju carried them so high up there was enough friction (re-entry?) on the way down that the Jeager outside burned, and was charred before/after landing.

Given just how HOT plasma is (if it was a gun, you could not fire it without melting), I'd be shocked if any of those blood cells weren't annihilated.
Heat doesn't effect radioactive material. Otherwise no one would have a problem with nuclear energy because we could just burn off the waste.

If anything burning it up just wastes good research material and business for Hannibal.

Unless it is toxic in some other way. Which it might be. I'd have to double check.
Sorry, what? Who said anything about it being radioactive? Also if radioactive material was destroyed by heat, then it would be the perfect source of energy as the waste would take care of itself.

There is no indication of Kaiju blood being radioactive, the news only ever calls it toxic, and when they explore the inside of the one Kaiju they aren't even wearing fully sealed suits.
 

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Warachia said:
Korten12 said:
Warachia said:
Well...

Izanami isn't a goddess, she is merely a more powerful shadow. Something more like Nyx from P3.
Despite the fact
That they clearly state her to be a goddess and at no point do they ever call her a shadow?
um...

From another user:

Izanami is the unconscious collective wish of Humanity given form.
Marie outright tells you this if you maxed the Aeon social link, saved her from permanently offing herself, then go for the True Ending route. She was separated into two parts, the one that wanted to fuffil man's wish (The rotting...thing you fight as the True Final Boss) and the other who wanted to protect humanity (Marie)
---

She's a demon, not a goddess. SMT typically has beings with the same names as actual gods and goddess but aren't.
 

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Warachia said:
Thomas Barnsley said:
Warachia said:
Zhukov said:
Warachia said:
You`re right, they should have used that sword in the city against the winged one and poisoned the entire place because the Kaiju`s blood is extremely toxic, and the city would then be uninhabitable for the next couple years (maybe just six months) while they clean it all up, good plan!
That didn't stop them using it directly over the city. What, did the blood all get carried away by the wind currents?

Nor did it stop them blasting apart another one with the plasma cannon thingy. Then putting a couple of extra shots into it for some extra splatter.
No, it all got burned up because somehow the Kaiju carried them so high up there was enough friction (re-entry?) on the way down that the Jeager outside burned, and was charred before/after landing.

Given just how HOT plasma is (if it was a gun, you could not fire it without melting), I'd be shocked if any of those blood cells weren't annihilated.
Heat doesn't effect radioactive material. Otherwise no one would have a problem with nuclear energy because we could just burn off the waste.

If anything burning it up just wastes good research material and business for Hannibal.

Unless it is toxic in some other way. Which it might be. I'd have to double check.
Sorry, what? Who said anything about it being radioactive? Also if radioactive material was destroyed by heat, then it would be the perfect source of energy as the waste would take care of itself.

There is no indication of Kaiju blood being radioactive, the news only ever calls it toxic, and when they explore the inside of the one Kaiju they aren't even wearing fully sealed suits.
Yeah sorry, I assumed toxic meant radioactive when according to this: http://pacificrim.wikia.com/wiki/Kaiju it is in fact acidic. I did say I wasn't sure.
Maybe just have a read of the biology section of the link, make up your own mind. I personally think the part about the kaiju blue contaminating the air makes the aerial death of Otachi a bit of a problem, but meh, I dunno. Some other user offered a good explanation for the original question about the sword, I would recommend taking a look at that.
 

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Matthewmagic said:
Madoka Magica: All of it, when you learn what Homaru's power is, you wonder how she ever failed to complete her goal. It is kinda ridiculous. She should be able to do it one hundred times over before anyone can figure out WTF is going on.
I think they explained it pretty well - I mean think about it, you're from the future and you go to the past to try to explain anything and it'll sound either implausible or outright crazy - for example, think about going back to post World War 1 Great Britain or France and tell them about Hitler and how Germany will both invade France and bomb the UK, at that point, when Germany was still under the effects of a depression and you'll be laughed at.
This is the second time this happened so I'm going to edit my post after this so here we go.

Her power to stop time and turn Kyubey into swiss cheese should have easily prevented him/her/it from ever making contact with Madoka, he mentions he has a limited number of bodies and she does this once in the show with no problem, Kyubey even remarks that it can't do shit about it. Or she could have gone back in time and killed the girl that becomes Valpergusnaut(sp?) while she was still a normal girl. Or she could have gone back in time and saved Mami before the concert, or Violin boy before his accident. Time travel breaks stories. She could have stopped Madoka from throwing the soul gem off the bridge which would have saved her a lot of trouble later. She could have easily slipped Mami's trap. Hell she could have just behaved friendly and won a small amount of trust from the supporting players.
 

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Scorched_Cascade said:
Matthewmagic said:
Madoka Magica: All of it, when you learn what Homaru's power is, you wonder how she ever failed to complete her goal. It is kinda ridiculous. She should be able to do it one hundred times over before anyone can figure out WTF is going on.
She did. It showed some of it in the series. The creator came out a month or two ago and said she repeated the same month for 8 years prior to the series. 8 years (96 or so times). 8 years of reliving the same month, seeing that no matter what choice you make the ending is inevitable and watching the one you are sacrificing everything to try and save dying (or worse). Homura has some serious mental fortitude.
Forgot about her power to freeze time buddy. Like when madoka threw the soul gem off the bridge. Or when Kyubey first appered. All excellent chances to freeze time and take care of the problem. kyubey should have never reached Madoka, he/she should have become swiss cheese a second after showing up each time with no one any the wiser about this bizzare phenomenon remember it mentions it only has a limited number of bodies.
 

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Matthewmagic said:
Scorched_Cascade said:
Matthewmagic said:
Madoka Magica: All of it, when you learn what Homaru's power is, you wonder how she ever failed to complete her goal. It is kinda ridiculous. She should be able to do it one hundred times over before anyone can figure out WTF is going on.
She did. It showed some of it in the series. The creator came out a month or two ago and said she repeated the same month for 8 years prior to the series. 8 years (96 or so times). 8 years of reliving the same month, seeing that no matter what choice you make the ending is inevitable and watching the one you are sacrificing everything to try and save dying (or worse). Homura has some serious mental fortitude.
Forgot about her power to freeze time buddy. Like when madoka threw the soul gem off the bridge. Or when Kyubey first appered. All excellent chances to freeze time and take care of the problem. kyubey should have never reached Madoka, he/she should have become swiss cheese a second after showing up each time with no one any the wiser about this bizzare phenomenon remember it mentions it only has a limited number of bodies.
Matthewmagic said:
BNguyen said:
Matthewmagic said:
Madoka Magica: All of it, when you learn what Homaru's power is, you wonder how she ever failed to complete her goal. It is kinda ridiculous. She should be able to do it one hundred times over before anyone can figure out WTF is going on.
I think they explained it pretty well - I mean think about it, you're from the future and you go to the past to try to explain anything and it'll sound either implausible or outright crazy - for example, think about going back to post World War 1 Great Britain or France and tell them about Hitler and how Germany will both invade France and bomb the UK, at that point, when Germany was still under the effects of a depression and you'll be laughed at.
This is the second time this happened so I'm going to edit my post after this so here we go.

Her power to stop time and turn Kyubey into swiss cheese should have easily prevented him/her/it from ever making contact with Madoka, he mentions he has a limited number of bodies and she does this once in the show with no problem, Kyubey even remarks that it can't do shit about it. Or she could have gone back in time and killed the girl that becomes Valpergusnaut(sp?) while she was still a normal girl. Or she could have gone back in time and saved Mami before the concert, or Violin boy before his accident. Time travel breaks stories. She could have stopped Madoka from throwing the soul gem off the bridge which would have saved her a lot of trouble later. She could have easily slipped Mami's trap. Hell she could have just behaved friendly and won a small amount of trust from the supporting players.
and here I go again

I'm pretty sure Kyubey said that he had an infinite number of bodies - which is why her efforts would be fruitless. And while she has the power to turn back time, that power is limited to the range of 1 month (I looked thos up), so she would not be able to stop Walpurgisnacht from being born, Mami from being in the accident or Sayaka's love interest from his accident. And if you had seen the episodes towards the end (or paid a bit more attention) she was behaving friendly towards them but as she constantly went back in time to try and prevent Madoka from being a magical girl, she grew more cold and distant - heck, constant failure at saving a friend from certain demise should bring down anybody's personality to rock bottom - in one of her flashbacks, she even has Kyubey tell them of the inevitability of their demise - the magical girl that kills the strongest witch is doomed to become the next strongest witch but their power is multiplied (which is why Madoka's witch form was bigger than a mountain after Walpurgisnacht was defeated), Mami breaks down and starts killing the other girls to "save them" and Homura reverts time once again.
 

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Crysis.

Nomad creeps into a room to spy on someone and gets surprised and coldcocked by a Korean in a nanosuit. A guy who can turn invisible and throw a jeep fails to turn invisible when he doesn't want to get noticed, and his armor suit fails to compensate for a glass jaw or give him the agility to duck.
 

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BNguyen said:
Matthewmagic said:
Scorched_Cascade said:
Matthewmagic said:
Madoka Magica: All of it, when you learn what Homaru's power is, you wonder how she ever failed to complete her goal. It is kinda ridiculous. She should be able to do it one hundred times over before anyone can figure out WTF is going on.
She did. It showed some of it in the series. The creator came out a month or two ago and said she repeated the same month for 8 years prior to the series. 8 years (96 or so times). 8 years of reliving the same month, seeing that no matter what choice you make the ending is inevitable and watching the one you are sacrificing everything to try and save dying (or worse). Homura has some serious mental fortitude.
Forgot about her power to freeze time buddy. Like when madoka threw the soul gem off the bridge. Or when Kyubey first appered. All excellent chances to freeze time and take care of the problem. kyubey should have never reached Madoka, he/she should have become swiss cheese a second after showing up each time with no one any the wiser about this bizzare phenomenon remember it mentions it only has a limited number of bodies.
Matthewmagic said:
BNguyen said:
Matthewmagic said:
Madoka Magica: All of it, when you learn what Homaru's power is, you wonder how she ever failed to complete her goal. It is kinda ridiculous. She should be able to do it one hundred times over before anyone can figure out WTF is going on.
I think they explained it pretty well - I mean think about it, you're from the future and you go to the past to try to explain anything and it'll sound either implausible or outright crazy - for example, think about going back to post World War 1 Great Britain or France and tell them about Hitler and how Germany will both invade France and bomb the UK, at that point, when Germany was still under the effects of a depression and you'll be laughed at.
This is the second time this happened so I'm going to edit my post after this so here we go.

Her power to stop time and turn Kyubey into swiss cheese should have easily prevented him/her/it from ever making contact with Madoka, he mentions he has a limited number of bodies and she does this once in the show with no problem, Kyubey even remarks that it can't do shit about it. Or she could have gone back in time and killed the girl that becomes Valpergusnaut(sp?) while she was still a normal girl. Or she could have gone back in time and saved Mami before the concert, or Violin boy before his accident. Time travel breaks stories. She could have stopped Madoka from throwing the soul gem off the bridge which would have saved her a lot of trouble later. She could have easily slipped Mami's trap. Hell she could have just behaved friendly and won a small amount of trust from the supporting players.
and here I go again

I'm pretty sure Kyubey said that he had an infinite number of bodies - which is why her efforts would be fruitless. And while she has the power to turn back time, that power is limited to the range of 1 month (I looked thos up), so she would not be able to stop Walpurgisnacht from being born, Mami from being in the accident or Sayaka's love interest from his accident. And if you had seen the episodes towards the end (or paid a bit more attention) she was behaving friendly towards them but as she constantly went back in time to try and prevent Madoka from being a magical girl, she grew more cold and distant - heck, constant failure at saving a friend from certain demise should bring down anybody's personality to rock bottom - in one of her flashbacks, she even has Kyubey tell them of the inevitability of their demise - the magical girl that kills the strongest witch is doomed to become the next strongest witch but their power is multiplied (which is why Madoka's witch form was bigger than a mountain after Walpurgisnacht was defeated), Mami breaks down and starts killing the other girls to "save them" and Homura reverts time once again.
If it wasn't explained in the show, then there is no amount of paying attention I can do to rectify not knowing something.

No it's exact words where "I have plenty of spares you know, but don't make me use them all up for no reason." Episode 8 19:02 Yes he says there is no point in doing it, but keeping Kyubey at bay for a month Meaning it would be detrimental to it to go through all of it's bodies, and it has a limited number. Your idea that it had infinite bodies creates I plot hole though. If it had infinite bodies then it would have already found a way around entropy, meaning there would no longer be a need for Kyubey to do anything.

I paid a perfect amount of attention, I just thought about what was happening while it happened. If she had saved Saiyaka when Madoka went to through the soul gem off the bridge she could have avoided the existential crisis that lead to Saiyaka's and Kyoko's death.

I'm sorry for only going by what is explained in the show and not pulling from outside resources, but that is how most people are going to experience the show, and I think it is fair to point out the plot hole. I know Homoru's wish was something like "I want to Meet Madoka all over again and be strong enough to protect her". You can see how that wish gives her time based powers, like Saiyaka's gave her a healing factor. But remember Saiyaka's wish did not just give her the power to only cure her crippled love interest so there was no reason to believe Homoru's time power had any kind of arbitrary limitation just from watching the show.

Look it is a great show but just watching the show by itself there are plenty of times where Homoru's time stopping power would have prevented something bad from happening, that impedes her personal goal. She could have easily avoided Mami's ribons, she could have prevented Sayaka from becoming a witch and thus saved Kyoko aswell. And yes she could have, easily prevented Kyubey from ever meeting Madoka Kaname. It is not a story ruining plot hole, but it is a plot hole and a really important one when you think about it.
but this is going no where. We are going to have to agree to disagree, I'm sure there are plenty of outside resources that explain all of this away.

Oh also
In the show and only the show it is said that Madoka's witch is larger because of the time lines Homoru is creating converging on her. Her wish is more powerful there for her witch is more powerful that is why her witch is stronger each time, Remember the first time against Walpergusnaut(SP?) madoka does not become a witch, but dies Mami style. Only becuase Homoru turns back time to save madoka so many times does Madoka herself become a more powerful magical girl and then a more powerful witch. Remember the show ends with Madoka becoming a god because of all the "potential" given to her by homoru's time travel.
 

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That bit in Part 3 of JoJo?s Bizarre Adventure where Polnareff and Kakyoin shrink their Stands down to combat a miniature Stand inside Joseph Joestar?s body, with the flimsy explanation of ?because Stands are made of energy?, but this ability is never seen or utilised again, other than Stands whose actual ability is being able to shrink themselves or others down. But the way Kakyoin explained it, it was like everyone with Stands could do it.

Again, in Part 5, Giorno Giovanna?s Gold Experience (or HAXperience, as I call it)?s ability to reflect damage back to anything he creates never being mentioned or utilised again after the first few volumes or so. Well, the Stand itself is unnecessarily complex; I think Araki was just trying too hard.

Famous Harry Potter example: the Time Turner. Only ever used in one book, for some reason. And one of the things they used it for ? was to save a fucking bird from getting killed. Not, I dunno, going back in time and killing Voldemort before he grew up to become the Dark Lord, or saving Harry?s parents from ever getting murdered, or saving Sirius Black getting framed for their murder in the first place.

YingDerpington said:
Dio Brando.

Anyone here who has read Jojo's Bizarre Adventure parts 1 and 3 know exactly what the fuck i'm talking about. The writer himself was asked about why Dio didn't use certain powers of his in part 3 and he simply replied that he (the author) forgot about them.
I thought it was because Stands were just more powerful. I mean, being able to stop time is a much quicker way to kill someone than freezing their blood.