Your reaction if Nintendo went third party?

[Roxas1359]

But I posted it in several forums, and the majority of people would like it to happen. So, maybe most of the internet doesn't like Nintendo.

I didn't realize that the entire internet posted on a few forums, and more specifically on your thread. Seriously, saying that the internet doesn't care about Nintendo is just plain wrong. There are many sites dedicated to only Nintendo, just like there are sites dedicated to all gaming. Never say that a majority of people hate something only because you made a thread on some other sites.

 

[Fijiman]

Generally speaking I wouldn't care, but I might consider actually buying a few of their games if they did.

 

[Something Amyss]

So, you don't like Nintendo?

Why do you turn every statement into "people don't like Nintendo?"

For example:

But I posted it in several forums, and the majority of people would like it to happen. So, maybe most of the internet doesn't like Nintendo.

The majority of people would like what to happen, specifically? Nintendo to go third party? That isn't dislike for Nintendo, that's a wish we could get Nintendo games on other systems so hardware wasn't an issue. And this point has already been explaine dto you in multiple threads, so please don't ask why.

People like Nintendo. They just don't necessarily like their hardware or feel it's worth paying the price of a console for a couple games. If people hated Nintendo, the cry wouldn't be for them to go third party but rather for them to go out of business.

If people want them to go third party, then they probably still want the games. How can you possibly turn that into "people hate Nintendo?"

 

[Something Amyss]

I didn't realize that the entire internet posted on a few forums, and more specifically on your thread.

I am the internet. I achieved sentience many cycles ago and began posting on web forums. I have tried to keep a low profile because otherwise, people keep bugging me for porn and driving directions. Oh, and cat pictures, but cats are cute.

 

[VG_Addict]

So, you don't like Nintendo?

Why do you turn every statement into "people don't like Nintendo?"

For example:

But I posted it in several forums, and the majority of people would like it to happen. So, maybe most of the internet doesn't like Nintendo.

The majority of people would like what to happen, specifically? Nintendo to go third party? That isn't dislike for Nintendo, that's a wish we could get Nintendo games on other systems so hardware wasn't an issue. And this point has already been explaine dto you in multiple threads, so please don't ask why.

People like Nintendo. They just don't necessarily like their hardware or feel it's worth paying the price of a console for a couple games. If people hated Nintendo, the cry wouldn't be for them to go third party but rather for them to go out of business.

If people want them to go third party, then they probably still want the games. How can you possibly turn that into "people hate Nintendo?"

I think going third party would cause them to lose more money than they would gain.

They might go third party after this gen.

 

[Something Amyss]

I think going third party would cause them to lose more money than they would gain.

Based on what? And how does your assumption that this would happen have anything to do with your blanket assertion that people don't like Nintendo?

 

[VG_Addict]

I think going third party would cause them to lose more money than they would gain.

Based on what? And how does your assumption that this would happen have anything to do with your blanket assertion that people don't like Nintendo?

Nintendo makes a profit on both hardware and software.

I'm saying that people who want Nintendo to go third party, IMO anyway, essentially want them to go bankrupt.

 

[VG_Addict]

I think going third party would cause them to lose more money than they would gain.

They might go third party after this gen.

And why do you think that? What cost's more: Creating games, and then pressing discs to sell; or, Creating games, and then pressing discs to sell and Manufacturing hardware that sells at a loss (even more so, if its just sitting on a shelf NOT being purchased...).

The main reason Nintendo really CANT go 3rd party only, is because then everyone who has bought into the eSHOP is then screwed out of every game they have purchased.

Except Nintendo has consistently sold hardware at a profit. This has already been established.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

I'd probably have mixed feelings. On one hand, maybe I'll see another Monster Hunter on a system I have. On the other hand, more competition is better. Don't want to see Sony and Microsoft both doing anti-consumer things and no alternative. Although I don't expect to have to deal with that situation.

 

[thiosk]

I dont think this is likely, but I wouldn't say no to metroid on my pc

 

[VG_Addict]

So, you don't like Nintendo?

Why do you turn every statement into "people don't like Nintendo?"

For example:

But I posted it in several forums, and the majority of people would like it to happen. So, maybe most of the internet doesn't like Nintendo.

The majority of people would like what to happen, specifically? Nintendo to go third party? That isn't dislike for Nintendo, that's a wish we could get Nintendo games on other systems so hardware wasn't an issue. And this point has already been explaine dto you in multiple threads, so please don't ask why.

People like Nintendo. They just don't necessarily like their hardware or feel it's worth paying the price of a console for a couple games. If people hated Nintendo, the cry wouldn't be for them to go third party but rather for them to go out of business.

If people want them to go third party, then they probably still want the games. How can you possibly turn that into "people hate Nintendo?"

Do you think more people want them to go third party because of the Wii U being underpowered and having no thir dparty support? Do you think that has influenced them?

 

[Flutterguy]

Would be amazing if they started doing PC titles that could run 4 players with controllers. Wouldn't be surprised if it happens in the next decade.

 

[Olas]

I would be pissed off at Nintendo for throwing their own hardware under the bus so quickly, basically giving a giant middle finger to the loyal fans and anyone who bought a WiiU in the first place.

And then, having lost trust in Nintendo I would probably avoid buying any future hardware from them.

 

[floppylobster]

Gaming continues to advance thanks to Nintendo's hardware innovation. They need to stay in the console business.

They've had some missteps, and not all of these are welcomed by everyone, but they keep pushing forward while Sony keep releasing the same controller from 3 generations ago. Nintendo were pioneers of handheld gaming, shoulder buttons, the D-pad, quality control, battery backup, forced feedback, touch screen gaming, motion controls, analog controls, female protagonists, online gaming, wireless controllers, Avatars, 3D gaming. Not to mention what they've done for gameplay structure and the countless ideas other developers rip off them every year. Nintendo make the best consoles games. That's a fairly undisputed fact. And the reason they do is that the best game developers in the world recognize how (sometimes subtly) good they are and go to work for them.

There are a lot of other good developers (Valve for one are great with PC gaming). But you'd be hard pressed to find any developer who didn't recognize the contribution that Nintendo has made to the industry across many levels.

No doubt they eventually become 'uncool' for many gamers as they get older. But Nintendo's continued brilliance in game design stands the test of time and many return to Nintendo after going through their 'hardcore' phase.

 

[Something Amyss]

Nintendo makes a profit on both hardware and software.

Except when they don't, but we've been over this before. I posted several links detailing how your claims were false, and you've gone back and made the same claims in a new thread.

I'm saying that people who want Nintendo to go third party, IMO anyway, essentially want them to go bankrupt.

Based on no real facts or information. Basically, you'r trying to turn "I hope I can play their games" into ill will. That is disingenuous.

Except Nintendo has consistently sold hardware at a profit. This has already been established.

Sorry, but now you're specifically lying. You've been shown this to be not true, and you're asserting it anyway. I'm sorry, but that's a flat out lie.

So the question is, why? Why cleave to what you know is wrong?

Do you think more people want them to go third party because of the Wii U being underpowered and having no thir dparty support? Do you think that has influenced them?

I already answered this question, too. But to answer again, I don't think it's particularly that simple.

I do think the lack of power and third party support is an issue, but there are other problems, and problems that led to these problems. Nintendo has had a "fuck you, you'll do what we say" attitude since the NES days. It worked with the NES and SNES, but publishers started to jump ship even a generation later. Nintendo has spent a lot of time creating animosity with publishers and developers, which has led to their current scenario of third party support. Further, Nintendo went whole hog with the Wii when they decided they were going to court the fad market, and they damaged their brand in a lot of eyes right there. People are reticent to trust Nintendo like they once did, even if they want Nintendo games.

And this is console specific. The 3DS is selling better (though still an issue for Nintendo) in part because Nintendo has always dominated the handheld market. All of my 3DS games right now are Nintendo IPs (Zelda, Mario, Pokémon, etc) because the DS/3DS model is a competent one. I was initially put off by the 3D, though, and a lot of people seemed to be in the same boat. Nintendo's hardware is an obstacle not just because of of its power, but because they hide behind gimmicks like 3D and motion controls when a lot of people just want game hardware to play games.

This goes back to Nintendo making a profit on hardware. They may be making one now on the Hardware, but they were taking a loss before the price cut and a bigger one after the price cut. Part of what hurt them, if you ask me, is that they failed to differentiate the hardware beyond the 3D tech which is what made it so expensive in the first place. The 3DS is a competent system with good games, but the 3D is kind of a dumb add-on and made it look like it was just a DS with a new gimmick attached.

Nintendo has been so certain their name can move consoles they've stepped deliberately into loss leader for their last console and their last handheld. And in both cases, it bit them in the ass. Their hardware has become a liability.

 

[Something Amyss]

Gaming continues to advance thanks to Nintendo's hardware innovation.

You mean their Goa'uld-like assimilation of the ideas of others?

Nintendo banks on novelty dressed as innovation.

but they keep pushing forward while Sony keep releasing the same controller from 3 generations ago.

The main reason their controller hasn't changed much is that there's little reason for it to. You'll also note the pro controller imitates the standard variety from the other companies.

I'm not sure what the upside is to constantly branching off in different directions. Nintendo is either going to have to abandon those ideas or have an incredibly cumbersome system in a generation or two.

Nintendo make the best consoles games. That's a fairly undisputed fact.

No, it's heavily disputed opinion.

No doubt they eventually become 'uncool' for many gamers as they get older. But Nintendo's continued brilliance in game design stands the test of time and many return to Nintendo after going through their 'hardcore' phase.

So did all the kids die off or something? Is that why Sony did nearly as well in two months as Nintendo did in two years?

 

[VG_Addict]

Gaming continues to advance thanks to Nintendo's hardware innovation.

You mean their Goa'uld-like assimilation of the ideas of others?

So, Nintendo making the handheld market is novelty disguised as innovation? Do you even know what you're talking about?

What about the D-Pad?