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Heaven's Guardian

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Decline, don't even have to think about it. There's a fairly reasonable chance that I'll earn that much money anyway within 15-20 years (my likely job has a starting salary of over $100 K, and even that's a backup plan), and that's excluding the possibility of an inheritance with a rather wealthy family. Even if that weren't the case though, I'd still have to turn it down. If I knew that I would never be able to earn money again, I'd turn into a miser, because what if I got robbed or had an expensive medical issue? Also, inflation means that costs of living will definitely increase drastically over time, and this money isn't indexed to inflation. Finally, it would kill the motivation to do anything with my life, and I have far too long to live to let that happen.
 

6unn3r

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MammothBlade said:
6unn3r said:
Take money.
Head to casino
Bet all on Red
??????
Be rich(er) or be same as was before. (presumably able to now work again? If not go back to spongeing off parents)
This still breaks the rules.
How so? You say nothing of gambling or betting the said winnings. And, since winning the lotto is considered a gamble/bet in and of itself, im not breaking those rules by playing in the first place am i?
 

MammothBlade

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6unn3r said:
MammothBlade said:
6unn3r said:
Take money.
Head to casino
Bet all on Red
??????
Be rich(er) or be same as was before. (presumably able to now work again? If not go back to spongeing off parents)
This still breaks the rules.
How so? You say nothing of gambling or betting the said winnings. And, since winning the lotto is considered a gamble/bet in and of itself, im not breaking those rules by playing in the first place am i?
Didn't make it clear I guess. It counts as an investment, and you can't use the lottery winnings to make more money - if you accept, you can't have any income or interest or earnings of any sort, ever again. That's an absolute rule.
 

Psykoma

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6unn3r said:
Take money.
Head to casino
Bet all on Red
??????
Be rich(er) or be same as was before. (presumably able to now work again? If not go back to spongeing off parents)

You wouldnt be going back to work or spongeing off your parents. Second rule, youd be killed the next day.


Ot: i wouldnt take it, especially if spouses have to follow it as well. I want a family, and keeping a family alive off of ~ 65000 uninflatuon adjusted family income for the next 70 years isnt going to happen. Id probably be living under the poverty line in 50-60 years


The thing that really kills this question (for the younger people) is that its a lump sum at present date, with no accomodations for inflation.
Cant possibly say its a good idea with those circumstances
 

AngloDoom

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MammothBlade said:
2. If you run out of money or intentionally try to deceive the lottery organisation, you will be terminated by elite assassins the next working day.
£3,000,000 worth of heroine.

Your move, assassins.
 

The Tibballs

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renegade7 said:
I was just answering his question about the taxes. Even though it is a moot in this scenario, lottery winnings are very heavily taxed in real life.
Not here in Australia they're not.
 

Rip Van Rabbit

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$4.8 million tax free converted to the South African Rand: 1$ = R8.24

Final amount: R39.583200.00

39 and a half million!?

Hell yeah, I'd accept :O
 

C F

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No. I'm going to need a lot more than a paltry couple million, especially if I can't invest.

I'm 18, and I have my entire life ahead of me. If I buy a house (and I do have refined tastes when it comes to my purchases), furnish it, pay for the rest of my car (and the inevitable costs to keep it operational), pay all my current and future tuition bills, pay for gas, pay for electricity, pay for food, pay for new clothes, vitamins, and various other things I'll no doubt wish to buy, and pay for insurance, how am I going to live past my 30s, much less to old age?
 

Legion

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Absolutely I'd take it.

Buy an average sized house with all the cool modern things that make life easier, buy myself a new, but not ridiculously flashy car. Most of the rest of the money would go on living expenses, the occasional holiday and the smaller things in life (going out, games, DVD's, music etc.).

Of course a certain amount would go on family, although seeing as I'd be unable to make more money, considerably less than I would spend should I be able to.

The same goes for charity, yes I'd like to be generous, but if I am not allowed any form of income ever, I'd need to be smarter (and a little more selfish) than that.

The Tibballs said:
renegade7 said:
I was just answering his question about the taxes. Even though it is a moot in this scenario, lottery winnings are very heavily taxed in real life.
Not here in Australia they're not.
Or the UK. Things like this aren't *allowed* to be taxed.
 

Zio_IV

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Considering my monthly budget is $1,800 USD a month, that amount of money would be able to last me over 220 years.

Yeah, even providing for a little splurging (inevitable), I'd take that offer and be totally fine the rest of my life.
 

Fayathon

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MammothBlade said:
6unn3r said:
Take money.
Head to casino
Bet all on Red
??????
Be rich(er) or be same as was before. (presumably able to now work again? If not go back to spongeing off parents)
This still breaks the rules.
For the sheer joy I get of arguing pointlessly on technicalities, gambling the money's not really earning it.

I'd do it if it was all tax exempt, I live by fairly low cost methods and I think I could live quite comfortably on that sum for quite some time. Of course if I got married/had a kid I'd be royally screwed, I think the last thing I saw on costs of raising a kid was that it was a minimum of 1M USD to raise a kid to 18 anymore.
 

J.McMillen

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Zio_IV said:
Considering my monthly budget is $1,800 USD a month, that amount of money would be able to last me over 220 years.

Yeah, even providing for a little splurging (inevitable), I'd take that offer and be totally fine the rest of my life.
Actually, you have to factor in inflation which adds up. $1800 a month is $21,600 per year. Add about 4% a year and you'll run out in 58-59 years, assuming you spend all your money each year. With some frugality you could make it last longer. Start with $2000 a month and it'll last about 56 years. $3000 a month, you're down to 47 years. Considering I'm already 40 that's probably plenty for me.

As for the spouse clause, if you're not married stay that way. Just shack up with someone who enjoys what they do for a living and live happily ever after.

And as for the taxes, just assume that the £3 million GBP ($4,800,000 USD) is how much you had left AFTER taxes. There, argument over.
 

lRookiel

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Derp, ofcourse I would take it.

I would live in a normal house and then do what I want. Play a lot of DayZ, get an EPIC gaming rig and then live on mid range food for the rest of my life.
 

Scarim Coral

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I can accept that since I pretty sure if I keep living out the non flashy rich life (no flashy cars, flat screen TV or anything too expensive), I will died with some money leftover to my Will. Even then if I had reach old age and want to end my life sooner than I donate those money away and welcome those assassins. :p
 

artanis_neravar

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MammothBlade said:
You have outright won £3 million GBP or its equivalent ($4,800,000 USD) - completely tax-free. However, there are two absolute conditions:

1. You may not earn any money again. This whole amount + your existing assets are the final amount of money you have for your entire lifetime. No loans, no interest, no inheritance, no nothing. You can work, but it has to be for free[sup]1[/sup].
2. If you run out of money or intentionally try to deceive the lottery organisation, you will be terminated by elite assassins the next working day.

You can choose to accept the money and the conditions, or you can choose to decline with no negative effect.

If you accept: what will you do with the money?

If you decline: why?

(I'll reply later)

[sup]1: Conditions apply to spouse too[/sup]
While 64K a year for the next 75 years, is a decent amount, it is about what I make now, and 4 years from now when I get my Doctorate I will have the potential to make nearly double that teaching for a few hours a week. I would decline. Now if it was 4,800,000,000 then I would accept
 

RJ 17

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I'd take the money and hire the elite assassins to eliminate everyone working at the lottery organization and to destroy any and all records kept there-in, thus nullifying any contract I might have with them allowing me to do whatever I wanted with the rest of the money. The lottery organization wouldn't be able to hire the assassins to murder me for breaking the terms of the agreement if they're all dead.

I love breaking hypotheticals. Loop-holes are fun! :p
 

thahat

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Lionsfan said:
I would decline. My existing assets right now is about 4800 bucks, andw while 4.8 million would be useful, I dunno if that could last me for the rest of my life (I'm 20 right now)
well before id put my handwriting on the dotted line, id go the say... malaisia? and some 3 milion pounds makes you a millionaire here.. a god there XD
then 3 will will stretch you a heck of a long way furter. just to compare for 3000 euros a yea you can live like a king there. so do the math a thousand years should be more then enough to cover your lifetime. lol XD
 

Olas

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1. Average life expectancy is going to increase as time goes on, I'd say there's a fairly good chance I'll live to be 100 or older. I'm 20 now so divided over 80 years my yearly "budget" would be $60,000.

2. Inflation is going to seriously eat away at that $60,000.

3. The IRS
 

Zio_IV

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Ssyrie said:
Zio_IV said:
Considering my monthly budget is $1,800 USD a month, that amount of money would be able to last me over 220 years.

Yeah, even providing for a little splurging (inevitable), I'd take that offer and be totally fine the rest of my life.
Actually, you have to factor in inflation which adds up. $1800 a month is $21,600 per year. Add about 4% a year and you'll run out in 58-59 years, assuming you spend all your money each year. With some frugality you could make it last longer. Start with $2000 a month and it'll last about 56 years. $3000 a month, you're down to 47 years. Considering I'm already 40 that's probably plenty for me.

As for the spouse clause, if you're not married stay that way. Just shack up with someone who enjoys what they do for a living and live happily ever after.

And as for the taxes, just assume that the £3 million GBP ($4,800,000 USD) is how much you had left AFTER taxes. There, argument over.
An above post by the TC said not to consider inflation. Also, when was this an argument?
 

J.McMillen

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Zio_IV said:
Also, when was this an argument?
That was just for the people who kept saying that you would have to pay taxes on the money. You should always start this kind of question stating that the amount was after you paid whatever taxes you would owe.