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NeutralDrow

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Love the show. Even when it's scaring me.

Also nice to see someone's keeping up the real-world influence Colbert was magnificent at. #JeffWeCan
 

Zontar

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Nicodemus said:
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Nicodemus said:
I've been lurking here for years, which is years longer than GG has existed.

#FreeKony :)
Wouldn't that mean your statement is even more disconnected form reality since if true that would mean you're fully aware of the fact that this site will neither ban discussion of this topic nor will it shut down any time soon?
No, it would mean that GG is in military grade denial, and the rest of us are kind of bored by all of this drama.
If GG is the one in denial, why is it the only side in this using actual evidence?
 

The Lunatic

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I find it a bit tiresome.

I mean, it a show that's held up on some pedestal as being great and all that, but, it's just mostly a rant from a very leftist point of view. And it's honestly about as entertaining to endure as a rant from the right point of view is.


I will say though, making a statement like "If You Don?t Take Online Harassment Seriously, ?Congratulations on Your White Penis" is an awful thing to say. Accusing a race and gender group of being indifferent about a certain crime because they are that race and gender group is pretty disgusting to me.
 

The Lunatic

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Nicodemus said:
SO basically you're one of the guys he's talking about, and you're super-duper offended?
I just think accusing white males of being indifferent about a crime is just as unacceptable as accusing black males of being indifferent about a crime.

If John Oliver said "If you don't take mugging serious, congratulations on your black penis", I'd be just as annoyed by it.
 

Zontar

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Nicodemus said:
I've seen GG evidence, and if there's one thing that stupid "Index" post got right it was what GG evidence looks like. Fucking bad joke is what it is.
Odd, it was good enough for governments to take notice of it. And hey, at least we did something which was mroe then literally nothing and pulling conspiracy theories out of our asses. I know you're trying to make it look like we are the conspiracy theorists, but let's face it, when the core foundation of anti-GG for a lot of people relies on a conspiracy theory while GG actually showed that collusion within the industry was taking place, neutral observers who care lean overwhelmingly on GGs side for good reason.
Sure though, GG carries around it's big suitcase stuffed with "papers" and screams at anyone about the evil media conspiracy. Must be a shock when we all don't make eye contact and hurry past though, huh?
Most people don't care either way, but the only conspiracy GG talked about, one which initially most of GG thought was untrue, is one which turned out to have been in place and now any denial of its existence is a literally rejection of reality (GamesJournosPros).

Meanwhile, AGG comes up with baseless conspiracy theories so often everyone on all sides has stopped keeping count, though because the false narrative is one the American media loves it gets eaten up. At least in places like Canada, Australia and the UK, where anti-propaganda laws exist, the issue is being taken very seriously, to the point where in Australia the ABC may get a full on investigation by the government for bias reporting (which, as a heavily taxpayer funded broadcaster, they are not permitted to do).

Odd how whenever the long arm of the law intervenes it always seems to be an AGGer who did something wrong. It's almost as if outside the echo chambers the narrative is broken. Oh wait, that's exactly what happened.
 

Drake Barrow

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I enjoy catching the occasional segment, as he's a fairly good presenter and host. However, most of his content is covering things I already know about or have read in detail on liberal-oriented news sites and blog posts. The whole thing comes across as preaching to the choir, and I'd feel a bit more comfortable with it if he'd break rank occasionally and state something that went against the grain.

Please note, my use of 'liberal' is a descriptor only, and not intended as a slur or insult. Context is everything.
 

Zontar

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Nicodemus said:
So basically you have literally nothing and so are changing the subject to one which has absolutely no connection to the issue what so ever in yet another failed attempted by someone to try and prove that GG is filled with conspiracy theorists or that AGG is somehow not filled with them despite all evidence being to the contrary.
 

Kingjackl

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I like how this took 3 posts to turn into GG bullcrap. The obsession some people have with Anita Sarkeesian is beyond the pale levels of both pathetic and shallow, to the point where they're getting worked up over John Oliver using her undeniable online harassment as one example in a feature about online harassment.

On topic, I'm a pretty big fan of Last Week Tonight. Some of the issues are a bit too America-centric for me to get invested in (we in Australia have our own equivalent called The Weekly with Charlie Pickering, which has been called an out-and-out rip off of LWT), but John Oliver's a good presenter and the show does a good job of covering issues that are often swept under the rug. Continuing the trend started with the Daily Show, we have a comedian and a team of comedy writers who are more adept at journalism than a lot of actual journalists.
 

kyp275

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Main point or TL;DR, what are your thoughts on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. If you haven't seen a segment yet, here is their YouTube homepage. Sorry if it is unavailable in certain countries.
I've always like John Oliver when he was still with the Daily Show, and the Last Week Tonight segments I've seen here and there haven't changed that. That being said...

However, this isn't about the host but the show itself. In the last three episodes they have brought up some very eye opening issues that would often be ignored by TV media or just brushed aside. Internet abuse, Trangender and Stadiums. Yes, stadiums. Actually, nearly all of his episodes have been eye opening to me as someone who isn't in the US and may I add...

People of the USA. How do you do it? How do you put up with so much shit and nonsense from those up top. I mean, yeah I know no country is perfect but for a first world country, doesn't that just push you over the edge? I thought the UK had it bad. Okay, we do but not over the top bad. Okay maybe in certain parts of the country but you get my point.
I feel that the whole dig at the Red Wing stadium utterly fell flat, probably because as a local resident I'm far more familiar with the details and the overall situation than someone knows nothing about it. His segment comes across largely as a "gotcha" setup that fail to address the issue as a whole, but cherry-picked pieces here and there to skew things in certain directions.

First off, this is Detroit - this isn't some other cities like Oakland/LA/Miami etc. that are throwing public money at sporting teams for what sometimes almost feels like the prestige of having pro sports team. Detroit on the other hand actually needs them. Downtown Detroit - which despite popular misconception, is actually quite decent now, but that's propped up by the Tigers/Lions/Red Wings. The sports teams are by far the main attractions for people living in the surrounding cities and suburbs to go to Detroit and spend their money. Without them there would be nothing there save for a couple of casinos, at which point you might as well go across the river to Windsor for the casinos there AND some decent(and safer) nightlife.

Take away the sports teams, and downtown, one of the very few bright spots in Detroit, goes straight into the dumpster.



Second, the public funding is in the form of bonds(which by law can only be used for development projects like this) with the state covering any tax revenue shortfalls to the city - in effect the city of Detroit paid nothing into the whole deal outside of the land contributed to the arena, which was sold for $1. So no, it's not a bankrupt city paying to build a new stadium, it's the taxpayers of the whole state of Michigan. If anything, one can argue that this is another bailout/aid from the state to the city of Detroit.

Now, before anyone think to raise hell about giving away the land away for a dollar, let me first say that I've actually been there. Forget about paying $1 to get those land, I wouldn?t take it if they wanted to give it to me for free. These, like too much of Detroit, are blighted parcels with abandoned buildings - hence why I say that property value is likely to go up, you can hardly go lower than abandoned houses with no one paying, after all.

Bottom line is, this WILL be bring extra tax revenue and jobs to Detroit, both during the construction and afterwards, it WILL remove blighted lands that nobody have touched in decades and turn it into a productive area and contribute to the revitalization of the city. Really, this is no different than any other cities and states offering incentives and tax breaks to get businesses to move there, for some reason people seems to be fine with those.

But did the John Oliver segment cover any of that? No, it just went herp-derp bankrupt city pays billionaire to build stadium lololol.

Yea I guess, if you skip over everything else, because what Detroit really needs is obviously for the blighted lands to remain blighted.




All in all it's a mixed bag tbh, you have the great ones like the segment on Comcast/cable companies, and then you have crap like this.
 

sageoftruth

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Good God! Will everyone please stop talking to this guy? He's not here to argue, just to egg you all on for his own entertainment. Apologies if I'm wrong about that, but he's clearly enjoying his put downs way too much to be here for an earnest argument.
 

NiPah

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sageoftruth said:
Good God! Will everyone please stop talking to this guy? He's not here to argue, just to egg you all on for his own entertainment. Apologies if I'm wrong about that, but he's clearly enjoying his put downs way too much to be here for an earnest argument.
Heh you mean the guy with the obvious throwaway account that was made less then a month ago, has four warnings and a suspension, an avatar of a guy with a noose around their neck, and a name kana saint from the bible might be trying to egg people on for his own amusement?
 

Zontar

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Nicodemus said:
No, basically you just dodged my point that blew your attempt to look legitimate out of the water.
Looking back on what you said before again, I still have no idea what you could possibly perceive as having been the point you did this at, because it sure is not what happened in your previous post.
 

sageoftruth

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NiPah said:
sageoftruth said:
Good God! Will everyone please stop talking to this guy? He's not here to argue, just to egg you all on for his own entertainment. Apologies if I'm wrong about that, but he's clearly enjoying his put downs way too much to be here for an earnest argument.
Heh you mean the guy with the obvious throwaway account that was made less then a month ago, has four warnings and a suspension, an avatar of a guy with a noose around their neck, and a name kana saint from the bible might be trying to egg people on for his own amusement?
Looks like my hunch was right. Glad to see I'm not alone here. Anyway, hopefully everyone else will get the hint.
 

Zontar

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Nicodemus said:
Zontar said:
Nicodemus said:
No, basically you just dodged my point that blew your attempt to look legitimate out of the water.
Looking back on what you said before again, I still have no idea what you could possibly perceive as having been the point you did this at, because it sure is not what happened in your previous post.
Your alleged confusion is not at all convincing.
My confusion isn't about what you think you did, it's about what you think it accomplished.
 

mantistoboggan

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I enjoy it. I appreciate the research that goes into the show. Personally, though, I don't find Oliver particularly funny.
 

Barbas

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Keep it on point please, people. If you don't want to speak to someone, just don't - move forward and don't derail the thread.