I don't know what to tell you. Best I can tell is the normal methods don't work with you. I think they sell something that helps people lucid dream... can't remember the name for the life of me though.Bags159 said:
Your thoughts on lucid dreaming and OBEs
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I've had a couple lucid dreams, but I always feel like I'm on the verge of waking up when I'm in one, which gets annoying. I'd prefer to be more deeply asleep so I could actually focus on controlling the dream rather than staying asleep.
My life is good enough that I wouldn't be willing to spend money for an escape to be honest. I started seeing threads about it on the escapist and thought, "hey this sounds fun for only spending five minutes a day working on it". Fast forward a few months... :|Cheezeypoofs said:
Maybe I've had lucid dreams I just don't remember? Who knows, but until I have one I call bull on this whole thing.
by the way, thought id let you know since your also trying to do it that i read somewhere that the peak time for doing it is between about 4.30am and dawn, its due to peak melatonin levels at that time and melatonin increases chances of having more vivid dreams. hence apparently its easier to induce a lucid dream if you wake yourself up at this time and then try to get back to sleep. also if you try to induce sleep paralysis apparently that's a very good jumping point for going into a lucid dreamCheezeypoofs said:
Lucid dreams are fascinating for me too.
I had one about 7 months ago, the first one I've had and only (that I recall). It was basicly triggered when I looked at myself in a mirror and I had long hair. I had my hair cut that day and thought "wait, this isn't right, my hair is short, I know it for sure, this is a dream".
Then I procceeded to fly outside the window and make a tour around the city shooting lasers from my eyes.
Shit was so cash
I had one about 7 months ago, the first one I've had and only (that I recall). It was basicly triggered when I looked at myself in a mirror and I had long hair. I had my hair cut that day and thought "wait, this isn't right, my hair is short, I know it for sure, this is a dream".
Then I procceeded to fly outside the window and make a tour around the city shooting lasers from my eyes.
Shit was so cash
I've had a lucid dream before and I remember it quite vividly. I was having a nightmare and then realized I could change it. I transformed it into a yellow room with jack-in-the-boxes bouncing in front of me. Then I lost control and the jack-in-the-boxes went sinister. I credit that dream with my slight fear of clowns.
This is interesting though, I might try to train myself to dream lucidly now.
This is interesting though, I might try to train myself to dream lucidly now.
I remember having a dream about owning all of the games I've ever wanted (typical me), then exclaiming that it must be a dream. I then non-chalantly realised it was and just got on with what I was doing.
Does that count as a lucid dream?
Does that count as a lucid dream?
Wait, you have to train to do this?
I've been aware when I was dreaming for the majority of my life, and have some amount of control over them. It's not like Inception so don't get your hopes up. It's mostly flying and doing stuff like the matrix. I've also been able to wake myself up from dreams.
I always thought it was normal and connected to REM.
I've been aware when I was dreaming for the majority of my life, and have some amount of control over them. It's not like Inception so don't get your hopes up. It's mostly flying and doing stuff like the matrix. I've also been able to wake myself up from dreams.
I always thought it was normal and connected to REM.
Lucid dreaming is really difficult, but is a really useful skill to learn if you have alot of nightmares. it's really the only way to fight back.
i've had 2 OBE's that i can remember. one i had just woken up in sleep paralysis. since i had experienced that before, i was in no mood to have hellish nightmare hallucinations again, so i closed my eyes, tossed the blanket aside, sat up, got out of bed, stood up and faced the air conditioner. my hands were on the wall, and i could feel the cold air blowing on my face. i swear i was standing... but when i opened my eyes, i was still laying in the same position i woke up in. i hadn't moved at all. so i hadn't done anything and the hallucinations came anyway. that was a horrible night. the second OBE, was really intersting.
i've had 2 OBE's that i can remember. one i had just woken up in sleep paralysis. since i had experienced that before, i was in no mood to have hellish nightmare hallucinations again, so i closed my eyes, tossed the blanket aside, sat up, got out of bed, stood up and faced the air conditioner. my hands were on the wall, and i could feel the cold air blowing on my face. i swear i was standing... but when i opened my eyes, i was still laying in the same position i woke up in. i hadn't moved at all. so i hadn't done anything and the hallucinations came anyway. that was a horrible night. the second OBE, was really intersting.
Lucid dreams are also fascinating for me.
I had actually a few when I was younger. I had some nightmares that were very similiar, after some time I just recognized them and then I woke myself up. Now I'm trying to have one again, I only was succesful once. I had a dream where I was at home, but I was actually on vacation so I thought "Wait a sec..." and then I realised that I was dreaming and then I became very excited. The only thing I was able to do was to create two giant toy airplanes that crashed into eachother and then I woke up
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But it was very funny nonetheless.
Also I'm able to remember my dreams very often and some of them are really awesome! The best one was probably the one where I was flying around (the flying was a bit wird though).
Well anyway, good luck!
I had actually a few when I was younger. I had some nightmares that were very similiar, after some time I just recognized them and then I woke myself up. Now I'm trying to have one again, I only was succesful once. I had a dream where I was at home, but I was actually on vacation so I thought "Wait a sec..." and then I realised that I was dreaming and then I became very excited. The only thing I was able to do was to create two giant toy airplanes that crashed into eachother and then I woke up
. But it was very funny nonetheless.
Also I'm able to remember my dreams very often and some of them are really awesome! The best one was probably the one where I was flying around (the flying was a bit wird though).
Well anyway, good luck!
Ah thanks, I didn't know that. I'll probably go check some different sites to see if I can find any other tips that I missed.vamp rocks said:
I find most of my dreams are about Hell in some form or another. I get a lot of nightmares so learning to lucid dream is a good way to combat them.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
There are medical cases where people have lost a significant amount of brain, or simply been born with only part of a brain and still been able to live normal lives.dyre said:
Just thought I'd point that out, the classic textbook example is this guy who had a rail spike blown though is skull by blasting powder:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage
I know that it might be an inconvenience and if you don't want to I wont hold it against you. But is there any chance you would share your recollection of that second OBE? I haven't read much of peoples first hand experiences with it. ThanksAkytalusia said:
some people are able to do it more easily than others. for most of my life i have only really ever had a handful of dreams that i have remembered and one accidental lucid dream. for the past couple years I haven't had any dreams that i can remember until a couple weeks ago. I suspect it has something to do with the heavy marijuana use that has recently stopped, but maybe not. Out of curiosity though, do you watch alot of TV? and if so do you watch tv before bed? or do you read or something??Optional Opinion said:
Yes, we all know about those exceptions. I'd guess that they lost parts of their brains that didn't serve critical functions, like parts related to personality and imagination or w/e. In any case, he didn't lose 90% of his brain, and MOST people who lose chunks of their brain tend to die, unless they get lobotomized to just lose their personality.Continuity said:
fair enough my friend, I agree that i would never pay money to try to do it but it is something that fascinates me and evidently quite a few other people. So if i can do a few things a day to unlock this ability then it all seems worth it to me. but, in my opinion, its a bit rash to call bull on the whole thing when so many people have claimed to have done itBags159 said:
that being said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion
I've never had a dream that I can control. For a start I really don't dream often (arguably I don't remember my dreams often, but that's another subject) and when I do they're almost always in that strange half-consious state where you'd waking up. You don't notice it while dreaming, but when you look back you can see how things in the real world bled through to your dream.
It's a shame really, I wish I could alter them at will. When I do have a dream, they're kinda... wierd. Still, if I had full control I suspect that I would never want to wake up.
It's a shame really, I wish I could alter them at will. When I do have a dream, they're kinda... wierd. Still, if I had full control I suspect that I would never want to wake up.
I saw a documentary on the BBC. One of the case studies was a girl who had a brain disorder which meant that the veins on one side were too big (that's what it looked like) and this was retarding its function. She was slow, and had fits.dyre said:
So they took her to the hospital and cut half her brain off. She's now better than she was before. The remaining half has ASSUMED DIRECT CONTROL or somesuch.
I too have been interested in Lucid Dreams for quite awhile now. Mostly for personal empowerment. For me, many lucid dreams occur from a wake induced stance. Where you slip into a dream with your awareness intact. However, when most people think of Lucid Dreams, they think of mid-dream LD's. Where you become aware of a dream while inside of a dream. Either works the same, but there is more control from a wake induced stand point than one where you try to trigger it from within a dream.
If you are looking to train yourself, you could try, just as a starter. Binaural beats, which use different frequencies to achieve certain states of consciousness, or physical reactions. It all depends on frequencies used. I have experimented with these beats in the interests of LD's among other things. I personally have had little success with LD Binaural beats, however, other people swear by them.
You can also use herbal supplements to trigger a lucid dream. In fact there is a book with some extensive information on the different kind of supplements you can use to help trigger a LD. Here is a link with some information on that:
http://dreamstudies.org/the-truth-about-lucid-dreaming-supplements/
However, one of the more important facets of Lucid Dreams, is the discipline and training required to trigger them on a consistent basis. I would recommend training yourself to form a habit of reminding yourself to have a LD. Whenever you are in bed. I found that my chances to have a LD increase if I am able to get into the habit of visualizing the dream before it happens. That is to say. When I am extremely tired and I know I am about to fall asleep. I begin to let my mind wander and focus on certain things. When these things begin to balloon into a vision. I know that I am beginning to fall asleep. It is at that point that I focus on two reference points, very subtly. My dream hands (dream sign) and the environment. Doing this keeps your awareness from slipping away. The more subtle you make it, the easier it will be to slip into a dream with your awareness intact.
I could talk at length about this. Though this should be enough to get your started.
If you are looking to train yourself, you could try, just as a starter. Binaural beats, which use different frequencies to achieve certain states of consciousness, or physical reactions. It all depends on frequencies used. I have experimented with these beats in the interests of LD's among other things. I personally have had little success with LD Binaural beats, however, other people swear by them.
You can also use herbal supplements to trigger a lucid dream. In fact there is a book with some extensive information on the different kind of supplements you can use to help trigger a LD. Here is a link with some information on that:
http://dreamstudies.org/the-truth-about-lucid-dreaming-supplements/
However, one of the more important facets of Lucid Dreams, is the discipline and training required to trigger them on a consistent basis. I would recommend training yourself to form a habit of reminding yourself to have a LD. Whenever you are in bed. I found that my chances to have a LD increase if I am able to get into the habit of visualizing the dream before it happens. That is to say. When I am extremely tired and I know I am about to fall asleep. I begin to let my mind wander and focus on certain things. When these things begin to balloon into a vision. I know that I am beginning to fall asleep. It is at that point that I focus on two reference points, very subtly. My dream hands (dream sign) and the environment. Doing this keeps your awareness from slipping away. The more subtle you make it, the easier it will be to slip into a dream with your awareness intact.
I could talk at length about this. Though this should be enough to get your started.