Your thoughts on swinging/open relationships

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axlryder

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So my fiance and I have been batting around with the idea of an open relationship for a year or so (we've been together about 4 years now and known each other for about 12). It's not as though either of us are remarkably unfulfilled in any aspect of the relationship, but she's always been a hippy at heart.

I honestly have few reservations that specifically regard not being sexually exclusive. Sex is just a thing you do, and any meaning it has is ascribed by the individual and can change depending on the context. If my fiance wants to experiment or be emotionally intimate with different men and women while knowing she's very happy being in a committed long term relationship, then that's fine by me. I too could easily see myself going out and messing around with other people without it really changing how I feel about my current relationship.

I do have several issues with the general idea though, which I think many people can probably relate to who have been in this situation. The first is that I don't know if there is some deep seated emotional problem that my fiance has that compels her to be this way. She had a rough upbringing, and I know I have several habits which could be seen as innocuous, but in reality are very self-destructive because of how I was raised and how my brain utilizes them to pacify certain emotional deficiencies. I'm not trying to project, I'm just acknowledging that as a possibility. I've actually been trying to bargain with her that if we both get therapy first, then perhaps we can more seriously pursue the idea of an open relationship. Sort of like getting a clean bill of health before joining a sport.

The second issue is that I don't trust most people or their intentions. Despite her somewhat stark demeanor with people who aren't me, my fiance is a relatively fragile person, and she's also a very trusting one. I could see her easily getting taken advantage of or not taking the proper precautions with other people. She completely agrees with me on this and we're both not really sure what to do about it.

There's also the natural fear of "what if it turns into something more?". Introducing that level of complication to a relationship that I already have just enough time and emotional energy to properly maintain seems like it would kill it. Moreover, I simply don't like the idea of full on polygamy. It rubs me the wrong way.

Finally, while this is something I'd probably be okay with for a few years, I think it would grow tiresome as the relationship went on and we started to get older.

So yeah, I'm at a bit of a crossroads about the whole thing.

Anyway, I shared all that so it might give you all something to chew on when considering the topic as a whole. What are your feelings? How do you feel about it "morally"? Would you ever do it? Have you done it? How did it go? etc.
 

Johnny Novgorod

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Fine if that's how it goes from the get-go, but to me it would feel like a downgrade if it happened in an already "closed" relationship.

EDIT: And yeah, never known any to end well.
 

KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime

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axlryder said:
Anyway, I shared all that so it might give you all something to chew on when considering the topic as a whole. What are your feelings? How do you feel about it "morally"? Would you ever do it? Have you done it? How did it go? etc.
I think, coming from anyone else, feelings are a bit irrelevant, it depends on how you and fianc?e feel about it, because that's what really matters.

Anyways a bit of background for me: I'm trans, asexual, panromantic, and polyromantic...

So having put that out on the table... I have no issue morally with open relationships, swinging, polyamorous relationships, non-exploitative polygamy. I've been in a few cluster relationships, they were fine, tended to have a lot fewer problem with squabbles, because there was always a person who was on both sides and could moderate an argument. Also cheating becomes a non-issue if you know and approve of any other people someone you're in a relationship is with. Mostly those relationships for me ended with everyone else moving to different stages in life and having to go away to pursue education and/or careers.


For me the question of sex is a non-question, I'm much happier with a mutual wank, a lone wank, because I'm in it cuddles and love, than with the messiness that is a sexual encounter... It's not totally off the table, it's just not all that interesting, or fun a thing to do for me. It's because of that poly- relationships are better for me, because there isn't all that emphasis on sex. So of course your results will be different.

My advice is to keep such things to people you both know, like/love, and trust, otherwise there is a lot of potential for trouble. Sorry I can't be more helpful than that.
 

Silentpony_v1legacy

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I've never known one that ended well. Eventually someone will get jealous and try to monopolize one person for themselves, either alliterating other parties, or simply crumbling the whole thing.
I'd sooner break up all together than agree to an open-relationship, because that's just life-support for a dying relationship. Best to get it over quickly.
 

Eclipse Dragon

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I don't have any moral objections to it as long as everyone is aware and okay with the arrangement[footnote]I mean really okay, not a situation where one person isn't okay but says they are for fear of rocking the boat[/footnote]

I have considered polyamory as a prospect for my relationships provided all things are equal, everyone gets tested for STIs and there are no secrets (I would know about anyone involved and my partner(s) would likewise).

As of now though, I am currently in a monogamous relationship and am very happy and hoping to build a life with this person, so polyamory for me is only hypothetical. Likewise if he came to me one day and asked me out of the blue if we could have an open relationship [footnote]which won't happen given my requirement for all things equal, I'd be free to date others myself and I know that's something he wouldn't be okay with, no one-sidedness happening here.[/footnote], I would feel hurt and probably break up with him. If I'm going to do poly, I'd like to know from the beginning.
 

Evil Moo

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Other people can do what they like. As long as everything is consensual, it makes little difference to me.

Personally, I don't think it would be something I'd be interested in. I've never been in a romantic/sexual relationship and starting and maintaining one seems like it would be very difficult for me. If I did somehow find a partner, they would almost certainly be in a more powerful position in the relationship and socially in general. Making that an open relationship would just be giving them free reign to sleep with others, while I would gain nothing, having already pushed my luck further than I'd have thought possible by finding a single person willing to be in a relationship with me. At that point I'd feel so marginalised and irrelevant that I'd probably just leave them to enjoy other, better people, without me.

I'm all for people not being constrained unnecessarily, especially not on my account, but there's no way I'm going to put myself in such a weak position. I suppose the ideal arrangement would be an open relationship where they always want to choose me. The last thing I want is someone resenting me for tying them to such a sub-par choice of partner.
 

EvilRoy

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Some of your safety concerns can be addressed by just seeking and joining a closed swingers group - usually becoming part of one involves some amount of vetting for disease and mental health. Mostly for the safety and protection of the people already in the group, but it works both ways since you're safe if they're safe. That at least would eliminate to some extent being taken advantage of, but it does restrict how open the open relationship is so maybe that makes it worse.
 

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Hey, if you want to do it and your partner is up for it, then do as you wish. Just don't force yourself or manipulate others into it.

Communication, honesty and trust goes a long way.
 

kiri3tsubasa

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I vehemently oppose such a thing. If I am going to be faithful and monogamous to my girlfriend then I expect the same in return. I've had 2 girlfriends in my life and I dumped both for the same reason, screwing some guy behind my back. They had the gall to come back to me and claim that they will not do that again. Once a cheater, always a cheater. I can not trust them ever again in that regard. For me Trust is difficult to earn, easy to lose, and all but impossible to regain.
 

Eclipse Dragon

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kiri3tsubasa said:
I vehemently oppose such a thing. If I am going to be faithful and monogamous to my girlfriend then I expect the same in return. I've had 2 girlfriends in my life and I dumped both for the same reason, screwing some guy behind my back. They had the gall to come back to me and claim that they will not do that again. Once a cheater, always a cheater. I can not trust them ever again in that regard. For me Trust is difficult to earn, easy to lose, and all but impossible to regain.
But cheating and open relationships aren't the same thing.
When you cheat, your partner doesn't know about it (and presumably won't be okay with it).
In an open relationship, the partner knows in advance and has given the okay.
 

kiri3tsubasa

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Eclipse Dragon said:
kiri3tsubasa said:
I vehemently oppose such a thing. If I am going to be faithful and monogamous to my girlfriend then I expect the same in return. I've had 2 girlfriends in my life and I dumped both for the same reason, screwing some guy behind my back. They had the gall to come back to me and claim that they will not do that again. Once a cheater, always a cheater. I can not trust them ever again in that regard. For me Trust is difficult to earn, easy to lose, and all but impossible to regain.
But cheating and open relationships aren't the same thing.
When you cheat, your partner doesn't know about it (and presumably won't be okay with it).
In an open relationship, the partner knows in advance and has given the okay.
In that case I will be as blunt as possible and tell them that I am not okay with that and I never will be.
 
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To me sex is whatever you make of it. If you treat it like a pass-time or just "a thing you do" that's all that it'll ever be. Having an open relationship would be no different to going out for drinks with different groups of friends. You have an itch, you gotta scratch it. If you believe that sex is about developing a deeper connection to an individual that borders on the spiritual then including an outside influence could harm that connection irreparably.

If some people are cool with having an open relationship, I'm down with that. More power to them. I've known people who were fine with the idea, but when it came to the reality it was a totally different matter. I also know it's just not for me as I am prone to jealousy and suspicion. I'm man enough to admit it. Sex and love can definitely separated. From my wealth of experience to me it's better if they aren't.

On a similar note I was reading an article the other day saying that in general men would be more upset by their partner having sex with another man than they would them falling in love with another man. For women it was the opposite; they are more upset if their partner falls in love with another woman.
 

DefunctTheory

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As long as everyone in a relationship knows whats going on and approves, I don't see a problem with open relationships.

That being said, I'm not personally into it. I'm into the whole monogamy thing.
 

Fox12

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Hey, if you're both totally open to it, go for it.

That said, it sounds like you're doing it for her. If you aren't completely for it, then I seriously caution against it.
 

Michel Henzel

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What consenting adults do is their own bloody business and I don't feel the need to judge them for it. Now for me personally, I will never ever consent to having such a relationship, I would even say that I'm probably incapable of having such a relationship as I would never be able to deal with something like that. And I would never agree to it for my partner either as I don't believe there is a point to it if I'm going to be miserable as a result of it.
 

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i'm with the 'no thanks' gang. If your partner is looking for sex elsewhere it means they can't be happy in the relationship/are unfulfilled.

I would say it's not much of a relationship at all just friends with benefits. But that's just my opinion.