Same here. Bought it off PSN last month. Completely destroyed my social life.SmarterThanYou said:
Your thoughts on the Persona 4 phenomenon
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I haven't played P4 yet, and I'm currently slogging through 3. Tell me, is it really THAT necessary to play 3 before 4? Because, so far, I'm not really digging 3. There's just SO much grinding...
It's one of the best RPGs ever made, and vies for my best.game.ever. award with Deus Ex and Baldur's Gate. It deserves the praise it receives, and more.Edwardo Sosa said:
This is Atlus's first real success in the States, and from what I understand even in Japan they're not all that famous. If Atlus has the chance to milk the series to make some dolla's they richly deserve, and most importantly keep putting out QUALITY milk (the P4 anime is hilarious, IMO), I can't find myself too upset about it.Terratina. said:
The only link between 3 and 4 is a short school trip scene in P4 where you go to the island 3 is set on. Other than that there really isn't a need to play P3 1st to enjoy P4 but 4 can be as grindy as 3 at times so you probably won't find it any better.bluerocker said:
OT: It's gotten popular on the internet but no one I know has played it apart from me and my friends who I introduced to it. So it isn't really publicly popular. It's still one of my favourite games of all time though, just losing out to P3.
I have a strange relationship with Persona 4. I mean I am SUPER excited with the fighting game coming out and I love the original RPG to death especially with how upbeat it is which was a strong contrast to all the grim and dour RPG games that came before it.
When I say "strange relationship" is due to the fact that I myself have personally benefited from the immense popularity of the game. Years ago I was approched to voice in a persona 4 fan video for a personal project as Teddie. That small video went viral FAST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lj9qI8VFc
Because of the fact I do that voice a lot at conventions it has resulted in me being approched by attendees and allowing me to further gain some exposure to further my potential career as a voice actor. To anyone following the fighting game, there will be a 24 hour stream over at Gamecenter on the day of it's debut. Ive been asked by the tournament organizers to assist in doing commentary for the matches on the live stream but to do the commentary in character.
I know I'm piggybacking of the success of the game but I fully inteed to bleed out my advantage as long as I can.
When I say "strange relationship" is due to the fact that I myself have personally benefited from the immense popularity of the game. Years ago I was approched to voice in a persona 4 fan video for a personal project as Teddie. That small video went viral FAST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lj9qI8VFc
Because of the fact I do that voice a lot at conventions it has resulted in me being approched by attendees and allowing me to further gain some exposure to further my potential career as a voice actor. To anyone following the fighting game, there will be a 24 hour stream over at Gamecenter on the day of it's debut. Ive been asked by the tournament organizers to assist in doing commentary for the matches on the live stream but to do the commentary in character.
I know I'm piggybacking of the success of the game but I fully inteed to bleed out my advantage as long as I can.
Yes, it has grown to a cult classic, but I don't think its a bad thing. It certainly better than the FF7 situation, which spawned every spin off possible from a feature length movie to a racing game, an anime, a manga, a third person shooter, main characters as guests in several other games, etc... and influenced the design of almost every JRPG ever since. The reason why P4 has not reach that level of "milked out" is because they are fewer related products and most are updates or adaptations, they don't add story into the cannon and expand very little of the universe, so the mythology of P4 feels more complete (with Arena being the only exception).
I do wonder about the future of the Persona series, but not because I fear Atlus will run it through the dirt, but because I want a Persona 5...
I also believe a lot of the fame of P4 in America is thanks to Giantbomb Endurance Run. Of course, the game had a fair share of success in the west, but nothing disproportionate compared to other niche JRPG series.
I do wonder about the future of the Persona series, but not because I fear Atlus will run it through the dirt, but because I want a Persona 5...
I also believe a lot of the fame of P4 in America is thanks to Giantbomb Endurance Run. Of course, the game had a fair share of success in the west, but nothing disproportionate compared to other niche JRPG series.
Well I do adore Persona 4. I'd be super hype about a Persona 5 coming out but to be honest I doubt it would manage to be better than P4. Still a day one buy though.
Y'know it doesn't feel like Atlus is milking Persona 4... They probably are just by looking at the huge amount of P4 related stuff that has been going on lately but it still has that quality that was present in the original Persona 4.
Saying that someone is milking something implies a drop in quality that is not present in all the new Persona-y stuff.
Now if only Europe would stop getting the short end of the stick and actually have game releases come out at a half decent time compared to the US... It's at least an extra month between the P4:A releases in the US and the EU.
I call shenanigans!
Also what a handy coincidence that I decided to get decent at fighting games before P4:A was announced. Can't wait to spend an entire day in the training mode figuring out everyone's day one combos.
Except Akihiko of course. Boooooorrinnng XP
Y'know it doesn't feel like Atlus is milking Persona 4... They probably are just by looking at the huge amount of P4 related stuff that has been going on lately but it still has that quality that was present in the original Persona 4.
Saying that someone is milking something implies a drop in quality that is not present in all the new Persona-y stuff.
Now if only Europe would stop getting the short end of the stick and actually have game releases come out at a half decent time compared to the US... It's at least an extra month between the P4:A releases in the US and the EU.
I call shenanigans!
Also what a handy coincidence that I decided to get decent at fighting games before P4:A was announced. Can't wait to spend an entire day in the training mode figuring out everyone's day one combos.
Except Akihiko of course. Boooooorrinnng XP
My criticisms with Persona was it shows how completely shallow the gaming public in Japan is. The fandom for the post Kaneko Persona Series ridicules the SMT franchise in the sense the side stories are insanely more popular than the main series and it's previous spinoffs. The doujins and fanart dedicated to the P3/4 female cast in comparison to their SMT female cast (Chiaki/Zelenin/Argilla) is proof of how shallow they are. Sure they will keep develop more mainline SMTs with Kaneko but the path they are taking is the same as Compile Heart's.
This will only justify the haters even more and the skeptics into believing in that Japan is a dying den of depravity.
This will only justify the haters even more and the skeptics into believing in that Japan is a dying den of depravity.
Persona 3 was pretty much that way until Persona 4 was released.
Anybody else think Persona 5 will be more "cooler"-presenting and have a bit more sleeker atmosphere and have more adult(-like) playable characters like Persona 2 was or it'll continue with the more high-school focused bubblegum direction since 3?
Anybody else think Persona 5 will be more "cooler"-presenting and have a bit more sleeker atmosphere and have more adult(-like) playable characters like Persona 2 was or it'll continue with the more high-school focused bubblegum direction since 3?
Well, P4 IS pretty damn good. Although, if there will be P5 (and I hope there will be), we'll play as university students.
Also, Having social links is nice, but I think ATLUS should change the persona leveling-up mechanic, so that we would be able to max everything out in battle. For example, the more you use Justice personas, the more points you get in some kind of Justice bar and the higher is starting level of Justice personas.
P.S. Important question. Please reply:
I want to buy P2 for PSP, and there are two bundles avaliable for me: one with P3P, and other with The legend of heroes: trails in the sky. I already have P3: the answer for PS2, so my question sounds like this:
Is this "Legends" game any good and should I buy it, or it isn't and I should just buy P2 without anything else?
Also, Having social links is nice, but I think ATLUS should change the persona leveling-up mechanic, so that we would be able to max everything out in battle. For example, the more you use Justice personas, the more points you get in some kind of Justice bar and the higher is starting level of Justice personas.
P.S. Important question. Please reply:
I want to buy P2 for PSP, and there are two bundles avaliable for me: one with P3P, and other with The legend of heroes: trails in the sky. I already have P3: the answer for PS2, so my question sounds like this:
Is this "Legends" game any good and should I buy it, or it isn't and I should just buy P2 without anything else?
No. Way.G-Force said:
I never knew that one of the legendary Hiimdaisy dub crew was among us! That's just- gahhh!!
*Faints from over-exposure to awesome*
I don't think they're milking the franchise yet. They haven't made any "garbage" as far as I know. If you want to see cashing in, look at Sonic or Final Fantasy. Atlus will be milking it once they make a racing game.
I've never played Persona 4, but I have Persona 3 Portable. Haven't beaten it, but great game so far. Probably the best game I have for the PSP.
I really like Persona, but as for Shin Megami Tensei... I don't know, the main series just feels bland to me. Never really felt like playing any of them, as it looks like about the same fare as any other JRPG.
I've never played Persona 4, but I have Persona 3 Portable. Haven't beaten it, but great game so far. Probably the best game I have for the PSP.
I really like Persona, but as for Shin Megami Tensei... I don't know, the main series just feels bland to me. Never really felt like playing any of them, as it looks like about the same fare as any other JRPG.
It's a game that I would love to try... if I could fucking get it anywhere in this goddamn country.
Well, Persona 3 had FES and then P3P, so P4 getting some sort of upgraded version and a portable version was about as surprising as Oblivion getting a GOTY. As for the anime, less popular games have gotten those (MONSTER RANCHER had one, and much as I loved MR, it wasn't nearly as popular as Shin Megami Tensei has gotten)... it's less a reaction to the games popularity and more some TV exec thinking the story fits well with what's currently popular in anime.
The reason people say play P3 before P4 has nothing to do with the story, it's the mechanics. In P4 you can control your teammates so a lot of people find it frustrating to play them backwards and lose that control. Though if you hate the dungeon crawling parts P4 has a lot of that as well.bluerocker said:
So far we've got a balance between the "cool" and "bubblegum" feelings. P3 I wouldn't really called bubblegum as the game had a very somber feel to it thanks to the blue overtones and general plot.BBboy20 said:
Nevertheless I'm really curious with the art direction P5 will go. They already confirmed the same music composer and character designer for the game.
there's a cult following for an incredibly good game with in depth characters and a good lineage behind it? BUWHA-?!?!?!?!
I haven't played P4, I wish they would release it on psn or something, but anywho... P3 is an amazing game so far (I've got about 20 hours in it)and I love everything about it. I will be playing P4 on first chance. I'm actually really happy atlus is pushing it. This will create brand recognition when 5 comes out and that may make it a massive supah-hit. Which would be incredibly good for atlus.
I love Atlus.
I haven't played P4, I wish they would release it on psn or something, but anywho... P3 is an amazing game so far (I've got about 20 hours in it)and I love everything about it. I will be playing P4 on first chance. I'm actually really happy atlus is pushing it. This will create brand recognition when 5 comes out and that may make it a massive supah-hit. Which would be incredibly good for atlus.
I love Atlus.