Actually my belief in the existance of God stems from outside the Bible. Indeed, my belief in God was 'given' to me by God or rather as everyone knows there is a God I merely stopped denying the obvious. What I gain from the Bible is an understand of God's character or at least what He has choosen to reveal to us.Saphatorael said:Oh, the irony.ben---neb said:Therefore they look for 'evidence' against God and they find it because they want to find it.
Scientists 'invent' things like physics?
You're trying to bring arguments to convince us that God exists.
Your argument however, is: 'Because he wrote the bible, indirectly'.
Why does God exist? 'Because everything the bible says is true'.
Why is the bible true? 'Because God made it'.
Why did he make it? 'Because God wanted to'.
Why did he want to make it? 'Because he is God and he wanted to'.
Why is he God? 'Dude, read the Bible, it's what he wrote so it must be true'.
The conclusion leads back to one of the premises, there is no connection at all to a real source. Hence you're stuck in an internal logical construction that cannot be false in its own universe, but it can never be proven properly outside of it.
Your religion may make sense to itself, but for scientists, who tend to be more sceptical, it simply isn't enough; so they'd rather try to explain things without having to fall back on 'because x said so' reasoning.
I'm a nihilist, but if God's existence (and powers) have been proven, I've no choice but to believe in him: his existence has been proven. But I'm not one to just boldly believe in stories and supernatural phenomena that have happened ages ago, because a book from that time says so.
And the argument 'because God says so' works because, well, it's God - you know, divine, all powerful, all knowing, everywhere at once, holy, perfect, good, all that stuff.
And correction, some scientists are more skepitcal and some see no conflict between Christianity and science. Scientist are men after all, always going to be bias either against God or for God and interputt the universe in the way they want to. It's why I never debate the creation of the universe via creationist science or evolutionary science, I argue God instead.
To conclude: read the title of this thread. That is how I feel nearly all the time. But that too was predicted in the Bible so I figure it's perfectly normal.