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Sonic Doctor

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spartan231490 said:
Weaver said:
Oh yeah, it's totally THERE but no new messages are delivered to it. They're all only delivered via google+ notifications now.
I get messages there, just they also show up at my google +
They must be doing a bunch of lying to people then, because when I went to my inbox today on YouTube, it specifically told me that all replies to my comments on YouTube would no longer show up in my inbox, only on Google+.

Though that is a lie, because I went to my crap Google+ page and there was no inbox or any kind of alert area. So where is the comments inbox for YouTube now? Well I will tell you, it is now under the Social tab on Gmail.

That is a shit mess because it doesn't just put the "replied to by" messages there, it also puts all those "YouTube suggests this video for you" messages there and the "this is what is next to watch for you from this person you are subscribed to(even though it is usually something you have already watched)"

What is even more screwed up, is my keyboard will not type in the comment boxes on YouTube anymore, I have to go to Microsoft Word, type my comment there, click on the YouTube comment box, wait for it to load the box, then go up to "Edit" in my browser bar, and then go down and click paste. Pasting can't be done by right clicking because those choices don't show up, I can't press ctrl + V because again, the box doesn't allow my keyboard to type in it.

Seriously, I think Google is doing this all to amuse themselves. They like hearing people ***** at them. It gives them more work, so that they can change things, and then change things because we ask, but still not changing to what we want, so they can hear us complain some more so they can do more work not doing what we want.
 

Sonic Doctor

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Smertnik said:
I don't know what the big deal is, I had my Youtube account linked for ages and I still haven't died of leprosy. I couldn't care less about the inbox and the only change I've actually noticed, that being the comment section, I like a lot. I think it's the first Youtube update in a while that didn't manage to annoy me in some way.
I for one like to see comments from people I comment to. What they did was make things more complicated. In the past, I made comments and then every so often I would click the YT inbox to look for any replies. Simple. It was one click off to the left to get the inbox.
Then they moved the inbox to the Google+ dash up in the corner. So that added another loading bit to bring down the dash menu, then a click on the inbox to load.
Then after that, they took it away from the dash, and put it in video manager, so I had to click the dash, click video manager, then click to the left to get to the inbox.

Now to receive my YouTube inbox comments, I have to leave YouTube, and got to my GMail, account and click on the Social tab, and then sift through that cluster-fuck of a mess because the put all the video suggestions and bullcrap in that list as well, with absolutely no way to organize it so that YouTube comments are more accessible.

Just because you didn't use your inbox, doesn't mean it isn't a bad change.

Even if you don't use it, I don't see how you can't see it is messed up for others. They turned a simple one click system into a multiple clicking, sign in, and sift through garbage mess.

This would be like if the Escapist changed their site so that there was no inbox for your Escapist comments and replies, basically getting rid of it, and then saying that all your replies will be sent to some other site/service that you never use.

Google is trying to make Google+ successful by forcing the need for it, not on it's own merits. That is bad business; that is how you kill a business.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Weaver said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Weaver said:
I can't imagine what would happen if you were a youtuber with hundreds of comments. That box would flood at a rate no one could possibly keep up with.
Youtuber with hundreds of comments here. Can confirm, it's a clusterfuck of fail.
Thanks for confirming, Gavin!

Man, sometimes I forget how popular your brand has gotten. I still remember you as just a "regular" escapist from back in the old days :p.
It's pretty mad alright :D Fingers crossed it keeps on growin'.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Is it even possible to read and respond to 500 plus comments within an hour?
heh. Not really no. You can't reply to every comment. I usually pick one or two per vid every day and respond to that
 

neonsword13-ops

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Now, I'm nowhere near as popular as Mr. MoS and I am not experiencing the same sort of issues he is, but I kinda like what the change did.

At least, for the comments, anyway. They now allow for link posting, pictures, hashtags (which are pretty useless anyway), and just a better comment flow. Did I mention there's no text limit either?

Plus, I somehow managed to keep my name and my Youtube names separate thanks to some last minute channel changes. So I'm safe there.

But I can see why people hate what they did. I mean, the changes are not that great, and I'll never use the Google+ thing because it's just like Facebook, but whatever. Google just needs to get their shit together and make people happy. Which is something they haven't been doing for the last few years with Youtube.
 

lunavixen

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bartholen said:
NO, Youtube, I don't want to use my real name. Stop asking me about it.

NO, Google+, I don't want to add friends to my profile. I've already got Facebook, fucking twat!

NO, Google+, I am NOT interested in ANY of your fucking WORTHLESS features which I'm not going to use. Y'know why? BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO USE GOOGLE+!
THIS!! Just this!!

I got forced into google + yesterday and I hate it with the heat of a nova. All youtube had to do was add the thread comment feature and the edit comment feature and left the rest of it alone!! The old system was fine. This new system has created so much trouble for the big youtubers like Gav, there is no user friendliness with this new system.
 

Elvis Starburst

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lucky_sharm said:
Anyone know of other video streaming websites? We should just ditch youtube all together.
I agree on this. It seriously needs to die if this is gonna go on. Only problem is that some people make a career off of YouTube, so they have to sit there and take the bullshit. It's sad, man
 

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neonsword13-ops said:
At least, for the comments, anyway. They now allow for link posting, pictures, hashtags (which are pretty useless anyway), and just a better comment flow. Did I mention there's no text limit either?
The main thing I've seen that LAST part do is cause people to post enormous ASCII penises, looooooong dropdowns of swastika art, and endless spammings of "Can you seethe problems with the new comments?" over and over again. Yeah, removing the character limit was really needed...
 

neonsword13-ops

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Chessrook44 said:
neonsword13-ops said:
At least, for the comments, anyway. They now allow for link posting, pictures, hashtags (which are pretty useless anyway), and just a better comment flow. Did I mention there's no text limit either?
The main thing I've seen that LAST part do is cause people to post enormous ASCII penises, looooooong dropdowns of swastika art, and endless spammings of "Can you seethe problems with the new comments?" over and over again. Yeah, removing the character limit was really needed...
I haven't seen that happen yet. >->

If that becomes a big enough problem, I'm going to have to reconsider that last part. But, for me, no text limit is awesome. Sometimes I can get into debates in the comments section (on Youtube? boy be trippin') and sometimes I don't always have enough space to fully convey what I'm trying to get across without being 200 characters over the limit.

I dunno, this thing is going to be a big mess for a while. But knowing Google, they won't fix it. They'll just pump out a newer, "better" version in a few weeks that only makes things worse.
 

demoman_chaos

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Guys, go to your Youtube Account Settings, unlink from your Google+ using the link under your email on that page. After doing that, that GOogle+ Dashboard shit goes away and the inbox button appears where it used to before that tripe came to pass. Not sure if the Inbox works right or not, haven't been able to check. But it gets rid of all that BS.

EDIT: One big issue that I just discovered, you can't comment without a Google+ thing.
 

Chessrook44

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demoman_chaos said:
Guys, go to your Youtube Account Settings, unlink from your Google+ using the link under your email on that page. After doing that, that GOogle+ Dashboard shit goes away and the inbox button appears where it used to before that tripe came to pass. Not sure if the Inbox works right or not, haven't been able to check. But it gets rid of all that BS.

EDIT: One big issue that I just discovered, you can't comment without a Google+ thing.
Nope. And the Inbox doesn't work.
 

RikuoAmero

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Can people do a quick favour for me? You can see this comment right? If so, can you go to the Advice forum and see if there's a topic from me about not being able to comment on Youtube? I've made the topic and can reload the page by checking my three most recent posts, but for some reason, the topic isn't showing up in the Advice forum.

EDIT - There it is now. Guess Escapist's server was being slow or something. Don't bother guys.
 

erbkaiser

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Jun 20, 2009
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So I just figured out why I could not comment at all any longer. Obviously plus.google.com is a different domain than youtube.com, so I now I have to allow third-party cookies just to get commenting back.

Google must be delighted.
 

Rooster893

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Feb 4, 2009
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The only thing I was upset about was the fact that I had to re-upload my avatar, which was a grueling process. I got it back, though, so I guess that's fine now. The new comments section though? Unbelievably disorganized. I liked the earlier version better.
 

BartyMae

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I've never had a Google+, but they've still disabled my comment inbox for my YouTube videos so they can appear on my Google+, (or so I can at least edit my preferences so I receive an email for said comments)...even though I don't have a Google+ account, and nor will I ever be getting one. Sigh.
 

KungFuJazzHands

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I like the new system. By not linking my non-existent Google+ account, it means I can browse YouTube without having to read the internet's worst opinions. Win/win for me.
 

deathjavu

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Unsurprisingly, as has been the case with many premier, market dominating websites, the attempts to monetize, update (read: make more complex) and integrate have made the site worse and worse at its original purpose.

It'll die a slow, painful death, much like Myspace did, or like Facebook is in the process of doing.

It's actually kind of funny how badly Google is fucking up the over-complicating thing after how much effort they've put into simplifying their most popular product (Google search). I recently noticed I can't log into gmail immediately on the same page that's brought up by gmail.com (on computers that aren't my own)- I have to search around for the "log in" button. I legitimately cannot believe a company that was smart enough to combine the search function with the address bar is dumb enough to hide the login for their email on a secondary page.

And what's with all this "log into chrome" shit? No thank you google, I don't want to have all the information my own computers have stored in chrome available on this random school computer, not even momentarily.
 

Saika Renegade

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It's made replying to and voting on comments such a chore that it's thrown me out of the experience altogether of commenting on a video. It disappoints me because I used to like to make interesting points on videos and supply trivia or comedy on short notice. Now I can't even do that with any degree of ease.

You can't reply on a comment that has no Google+ linked content and can't vote on a comment that has no linked content...so now spam posts, flames, and other such junk simply piles up uncontrolled as well.

What a mess.