Zero Punctuation: Batman: Arkham Origins

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blackrave

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At least with movies 3rd movie was meh because Heath Ledger died.
What was excuse of the games?
 

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Hawkeye21 said:
Fisting all day long
Hmmm, this must be some double-entendre which my knowledge of English prevents me from understanding... TO THE RESCUE, GOOGLE!
*5 seconds later*
No. No, no, no, no. NO! That DOES NOT go there! BLARGHSDFHDSHF
You have my most sincere sympathies... somethings should not be Googled
 

MysticSlayer

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I always thought Ivy was meant to reflect his will and mental fortitude. Or at the very least she's meant to tempt it. It might also be the fact that every woman is crazy for Batman yet none of them can have him, and every man is crazy for Ivy yet obviously cannot have her.

Anyways, I only paused to look up Firefly, and even then I knew who it was, but I just wanted to see if they changed him at all for the game. Anyways, that might reflect badly on my social skills, since the level of understanding obscure DC comics villains tends to be inversely proportional to your social life.
 

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lord.jeff said:
They do explain why Batman would have more gadgets in a prequel during Arkham City. Alfred asks why he keeps asking for deliveries instead of just carrying everything to start with and Batman says he use too but it was to heavy and slowed him down. Game still sounds like a lazy sequel though.
Aaaahhh... BUT! He has grapple boost. That was SUPOSED to be in prototype stages in the SECOND game. :D

Also the combat doesn't feel as fluid as it was in the first two games. There is something "off" about it.
 

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blackrave said:
At least with movies 3rd movie was meh because Heath Ledger died.
What was excuse of the games?
Mark Hamill retired as the joker? To be fair though, Troy Baker does a fantastic Mark Hamill's Joker impression.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Whatever_Happened_to_the_Caped_Crusader%3F


There, that shoddily fills up all the plot holes.
 

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Falterfire said:
ZZoMBiE13 said:
Well to be fair, it is contextualized despite what Yahtzee said. It's just a bullshit excuse to not have to make non-villain AI routines, but still.
Are you referring to the throwaway line about a curfew being in effect or was there a better justification for how every single non-evil citizen in Gotham got the memo and decided to obey it?

But yeah, Arkham City found a good excuse to insert non-evil characters in the form of both the Police SWAT Team you rescue from Penguin and the political prisoners you can rescue. This game couldn't even be arsed to do that much.

I think that was one of my issues with the game (Besides the most important - crashing every hour) - It's hard to care about saving the city when the population seems to be 100% douchebag. The only three characters in the entire game that are 'good' are the two Gordons and Alfred.

Batman doesn't really count - he spends way too much time breaking bones for me to consider him a truly 'good' character.
The police can be heard saying that the curfew is in place, They make mention of the blizzard making the streets (even more) unsafe, and the fear that the assassins would put "innocents" in danger as justification. It's paper thin, sure. But it is there.

And there are, technically, the same kinds of "innocents" in Origins as there were in City. If you follow the police chatter and go to the random crime events you can often times save a non criminal from a gang of toughs just like in City. Again, paper thin but technically in place.

Make no mistake though, I'm not defending this game. I wouldn't recommend it to friends either. The only reason I'm enjoying it is because I'm the kind of person Yahtzee made mention of who actually does love the combat gameplay challenges and the predator missions. So while I would have preferred another game on the level of City, this one still provides from fun. But it's not the same kind of "YOU HAVE TO TRY THIS" fun of the last two.
 

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Bloody bathell, not even the game itself seems to have a clue why it should exist.

The mention of throwing toys out of the pram brings back terrible, faint echoes of memories for me. I think that is how I lost my favorite rattle. Now that is a life lesson if I ever saw one. I never did it again. Had it been in the D.C. universe, I'd become a rattle themed vigilante hero, no doubt.

(Although I seem to recall getting it back. I am not sure wether that happened or if it's a memory I fabricated to tack on a happy ending)

Hawkeye21 said:
Fisting all day long
Hmmm, this must be some double-entendre which my knowledge of English prevents me from understanding... TO THE RESCUE, GOOGLE!
*5 seconds later*
No. No, no, no, no. NO! That DOES NOT go there! BLARGHSDFHDSHF
I like to call that The Jim Sterling Experience.
 

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and yet Yahtzee didn't answer the hard hitting question that every fan of batman wants to know...

...is the ten-eyed man in this game? :p

I agree that batman's b and c list villains are pretty weak, even by the standards of DC's traditionally weak villain lineup.

that, the bugs, and the generally more limited experience are why I'm giving this one a pass for now, at least until it's patched. I'm not being paid enough to beta test their game for them.
 

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How can B:Origins be half the size of B:Arkham City, when the top half of the new game is the entire map of the older one?
 

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ZZoMBiE13 said:
Chessrook44 said:
So Gotham City is a city of nothing but goons everywhere? Jeez, that sounds like something awful...
Well to be fair, it is contextualized despite what Yahtzee said. It's just a bullshit excuse to not have to make non-villain AI routines, but still.

Also, not that it's any different in practice, but half the thugs are in fact cops. Which are basically just one of the gangs since this is early Batman life.
Well at least I wasn't hung for my horrible horrible pun.
 

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SonOfVoorhees said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
I was top of my class in goon school.

Poison Ivy reflects Batman's desire to be pretty.
Or because Batman likes to weed out all the bad guys? :)
It could reflect Batman's sexual frustrations. I mean, doesn't the guy have a really fucking awful track record with woman?
 

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I've played the game and tbh it just feels like the new devs were either lazy as Yahtzee says, or they were too scared to actually try and develop a new game for fear of it becoming the Batman & Robin of the game's industry. Without the rubber nipples.

All in all, it does really just feel like a massive DLC for Arkham City instead of being a new game in it's own right.
 

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Is it just me or has Yahtzee REALLY slowed down his talking speed compared to his videos during 2010-2012. Like...really, really slowed down. Sounds just like a regular person now -_-
 

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Guess i won't be dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight.
Until the bargain bin, i guess.
 

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Yuuki said:
Is it just me or has Yahtzee REALLY slowed down his talking speed compared to his videos during 2010-2012. Like...really, really slowed down. Sounds just like a regular person now -_-
I'm pretty sure we're just used to him now.

I did expect it to be nowhere near the quality of the first two, but I didn't expect it to be shit.
 

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As if the broken combat wasn't bad enough to make it worse than the previous titles, the story itself was just bad. Most of the assassins (and by most I mean all except for Bane) literally show up, have absolutely no build up, get Bat-Bitchslapped, and then are never heard from again. Electrocutioner is LITERALLY a joke. Deathstroke just pops in out of nowhere, you fight him, and then he's gone. Same with Copperhead and Firefly. Killer Croc is the boss of the tutorial mission, Shiva doesn't really even give a damn. And Deadshot's only appearance is in a side-mission in which you're challenged to a Predator room much like Catwoman's fight against Two-Face in AC.

Then there's the fact that the story seems to be much more about The Joker's origin as a Bat-Baddie than Batman's origin as the Dark Knight.

*sigh* Failed Game is Failed. Lets hope the rumors are true that Rocksteady's already working on a right-proper sequel to Arkham City.